User talk:Tewdar/sandbox/Funnelbeaker

First round of comments

I like this draft! It's exactly what I want to see in Wikipedia; which means it is probably still too technical and needs some terminological "dumbing down" for a general readership. And I guess a couple of "According to"s can be unified and put into Wikivoice, especially when research team A is cited by (unrelated) team B and they find the same things; slight diferences in percentages can be put into a note. I'll try a bit in this direction later.

Now, is

According to Malmström et al. 2020, hunter-gatherer ancestry ranged from c. 34%-55%, with an average of c. 56% Neolithic Farmer-related and c. 42% hunter-gatherer ancestry.<---THIS WAS DONE BY ME COUNTING PIXELS

a good idea? (Btw, shouldn't it be Coutinho et al.? Senior authors are Malmström and Jakobsson, but that won't affect the citation AFAIK)

First, it's ADMIXTURE, and unsupervised ADMIXTURE-runs are better read "impressionistically" rather literally. For quantitative data we should stick to supervised ADMIXTURE-results or qpAdm (and with care, also qpGraph). Also, if you check Fig S4 (the source of Fig 5), you'll see that even Anatolian Farmers ("NEO") are not entirely yellow at K=8 (or is it "lemon"?). Only at K=13, "NEO" becomes yellow throughout, and the blue components in FBC drops visibly. (That's also where "Bedioun B" becomes distinct from Anatolian Farmers, with the Ancient Levant component coming out as purple.) At K=15, "NEO" turns green, but the proportion in FBC remains stable (is it my eyes, or do they use the same kind of green also for Paleo-Siberians?). Austronesier (talk) 10:56, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it's Coutinho et al., but the current genetics section in the article is also wrong I think so I kept it the same. We'll change that when it goes live. 😁

The Advanced Pixel Analysis needs to be taken out I think, I just thought there might be some other textual basis for this in the current article besides the graphic, but I guess not (I get totally different figures to the current article???).

A 'deaccordification' would be great.

I am shocked that anything written by me needs further dumbing down.😂 Tewdar 12:43, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]