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Mz7 (talk) 00:49, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know Mz7! Responded. Hope all is well . --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 01:45, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

Joseph Ndo

Hi thanks for your well intentioned edits to Joseph Ndo’s page, however as I wrote his name is frequently wrongly spelled, in the media. Can you please revert the spelling. I am the director and editor of the show Blessed that I referred to on YouTube that Joseph presents and coproduces with me. He has confirmed the spelling of his own name Ndo for both our show and for the Wikipedia page. Thanks Bnational (talk) 17:28, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

Hi there, please view my response on @Oshwah:'s talk page (click link). As I stated there, unless you have reliable independent sources to back up the claim, the it is best to leave it the way it is now. As for you being the producer, that is near impossible to prove and would also put you in a conflict of interest, so I would strongly advise requesting the edit on the talk page of the article and using the template {{edit request}} (include reliable sources in request please. --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 22:27, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

Thanks - I’m new to Wikipedia and we just wanted to get the spelling correct for once. Btw the show is produced with no budget so I don’t know if this still constitutes a conflict of interest since there is no financial incentive. Bnational (talk) 23:36, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

@Bnational: A conflict of interest doesn't just have to be being paid. Your position as producer could be seen as a conflict of interest with both Joseph and the show (were the latter to have an article). As described on the COI info page that I linked, a conflict of interest "involves contributing to Wikipedia about yourself, family, friends, clients, employers, or your financial and other relationships." Please note, however, that in stating that you have a potential conflict of interest (regardless of money not exchanging hands), is by no means a judgement on your integrity or opinion.

Fifa appears to spell the name both ways oddly enough. At this point I would consider it unclear as to which spelling is the correct one. I would strongly recommend requesting the edit and providing reliable source(s) that state the fact that the name is commonly misspelled and the correct spelling. In this situation, I would normally create a redirect with the alternative punctuation (based on the FIFA source and one other I saw using it), but a redirect from "Joseph Ndo" was created in 2012 when the page was moved from that title to its current one by Faycal.09.

I am glad that you opened a discussion about this on the article talk page. Hopefully some consensus on which way it should be spelled can be established.

If you have any questions about Wikipedia or regarding this, please do not hesitate to ask. --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 01:44, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

Tech News: 2018-14

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• Template Wizard script available for testing. It will show up as a puzzle-piece icon in the 2010 WikiEditor. You can click on the icon to insert a template.
• The Wikimedia Communities and Contributors survey is to be sent to participants around the world this week. If you are volunteer developer, and have contributed code to any pieces of MediaWiki, gadgets, or tools, please take 20 to 40 minutes to complete the survey.

Problems

• MediaWiki deployment train has been rolled back to version 1.31.0-wmf.26 on week 13, due to a multiplication of lost connections during MySQL queries. Some of the recent changes may have not been applied. They will be deployed next week. [1][2][3]
• The Notifications badge icons were overlapping other links. This has been fixed. [4]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 3 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 4 April. It will be on all wikis from 5 April (calendar).
• User subpages ending in .json will now be protected from other people editing them, like .js and .css pages already are. If you have a tool that stores static configuration, you can now use a subpage like User:Example/mygadget.json to do this without concerns. [5]
• Tidy will be replaced by RemexHtml on the next set of wikis. On April 4, we plan to turn off Tidy on all Wikiquotes (except frwikiquote) and Wikimedia chapters and user groups wikis. 23 wikis will have Tidy replaced this time. [6][7][8]
• AbuseFilter will transition to use OOUI starting April 4, and the rule editor will also be changed to a CodeEditor (ACE) similar to what is found on user JavaScript pages. The move to OOUI will continue over the next few weeks. [9] [10]
• In Special:Preferences, the preference "Reload the watchlist automatically whenever a filter is changed (JavaScript required)" is now only visible for users who have opt-out the New Filters for the Watchlist. [11]
• You can see names of individual abuse filters in Special:AbuseLog. Now if the name of an abuse filter contains some wikisyntax like links, it will not change to a link when displayed. [12]
• You can now search through filter patterns at Special:AbuseFilter. You may specify either a plain string or a regular expression and the matching filters will show a snippet of their pattern with the match highlighted. [13]

Meetings

• You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 3 April at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.
• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 4 April at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

• If you're using, creating or improving Lua modules, you can give your feedback to help harmonizing the modules across wikis and add more useful functions.
• On April 11th, we plan to turn off Tidy on all wikis with less than 50 entries in all high priority linter categories. About 60 wikis will have Tidy replaced. Currently about 600 wikis have had Tidy replaced and we have another 300 wikis to go. We plan to finish this transition from Tidy to RemexHtml by end of June 2018. Please follow T175706 to monitor progress of Tidy replacement. [14][15]

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19:28, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

Minor thing (April Fool's cleanup)

Can you please userfy my joke RFA nomination Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Earth (article)? CamelCase (talk) 08:23, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

 Done. It is now located at User:CamelCase/Requests for adminship/Earth (article) CamelCase. Thanks for bringing this forward . Anything else I could help you with? --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 13:14, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

No, it's all good. Thank you! :) CamelCase (talk) 22:17, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

Glad I could help! If you ever need a page moved, feel free to drop by - my talk page is open to all --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 03:06, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

Happy birthday!

Here’s to another year, my friend! Best of luck in all you’ll do, Mz7 (talk) 02:49, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

Thank you Mz7! Hard to believe I'm another year older, don't feel any different :P --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 03:06, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

Tech News: 2018-15

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• Some pages have templates that describe problems with that article. There is now more information for mobile readers and what is wrong with the article and how they could help fix it. [16]
• You can now thank users for many more actions than edits to a page. This was one of the top ten requests in the Wishlist Survey last year. [17]
• The sort order of categories will have errors for a short time starting Monday 9 April (UTC). We are upgrading versions of an internationalisation library (ICU) and using a script to update the database. This will take between a few hours and a few days depending on wiki size. You can read more details. [18]
• Tag filter titles will now work better on wikis where the tag filter title is in a language that is written in another direction than the language of that wiki. This could for example be an English title (written from left to right) on a Hebrew or an Arabic wiki (written from right to left). [19]

Problems

• The bookmark icon for saved filters on the recent changes page disappeared because of new icon changes. This has now been fixed. [20]
• For a week in March rollbacks got both the rollback and the undo tag on the recent changes page and other pages where you see tags. This has now been fixed. [21]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 10 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 11 April. It will be on all wikis from 12 April (calendar).
• Patrolled edits now have three states instead of two. Recent changes filters are updated to show unpatrolled, autopatrolled and manually patrolled edits. [22]

Meetings

• You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 10 April at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.
• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 11 April at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

• The iOS and Android apps will get synced reading lists later in April.

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18:08, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

"Pages link to it"

Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2018_April_3#The_New_York_Times'

No pages link to that redirect save for Article Alerts notices. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 02:37, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

@Headbomb: You are correct, not sure how I didn't notice that. Mind is all over the place with finals I guess (start tomorrow). That said, I still agree with the close though. --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 02:55, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

16:38:40, 13 April 2018 review of submission by 49.45.133.140

• 49.45.133.140 (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Meena Lalit (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

49.45.133.140 (talk) 16:38, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

Hello there 49.45, your request was unfortunately blank, so I am not sure why you created this. How may I help you? --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 16:39, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

Tech News: 2018-16

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Changes later this week

• Profiling statistics for an abuse filter tell how often edits match the filter. The statistics for the abuse filters were reset after 10000 actions. Wikis can now decide to reset it more or less often. They can file a phabricator task to do so. [23]
• Abuse filters will now treat integers and floats more precisely. For example, 5/2 was rounded down to 2 but will now be 2.5 and 2*4 will be the integer 8 and not the floating-point number 8.0. Division values are the only ones changed. For the rest only strict comparisons (=== and !==) will be affected leaving the values unchanged. [24][25]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 17 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 18 April. It will be on all wikis from 19 April (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 17 April at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.
• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 18 April at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

• The new PDF renderer could not create PDFs from books. Books are in this case collections of pages on a Wikimedia wiki. PediaPress will take over development of the books-to-PDF function. [26]
• Pywikibot will no longer support Python 2.7.2 and 2.7.3. [27]
• Volunteer developers can fill out the Wikimedia Communities and Contributors survey. The last day is April 22 (UTC). This is a third-party service survey. See the privacy statement.

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15:20, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

Tech News: 2018-17

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• All Wikipedias now have Page Previews.
• The iOS and Android apps now have synced reading lists. This means you can save articles to a private list that can be seen on your other devices if you use the apps.
• The icons in the 2010 wikitext editor have changed. [28]
• The visual editor and the 2017 wikitext ask you to write an edit summary after you press Publish. This button now also shows an ellipsis. This is to show that pressing Publish is not the last step. [29]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 24 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 25 April. It will be on all wikis from 26 April (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 24 April at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.
• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 25 April at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

• <mapframe> will come to most Wikipedias in May. This means that you can put interactive maps in the articles. Nine Wikipedias that use a strict version of flagged revisions will not get this feature in May. [30]
• The rollback function could change. This was a German community request. All editors with rollback rights can leave feedback on the proposed solution. The last day to leave feedback is 4 May (UTC).

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18:16, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

Tech News: 2018-18

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• The parameter for unpatrolled edits in recent changes filters changed name. You might need to update saved filters and links. [31]

Problems

• We are migrating wikis from Tidy to Remex. Because of a bug the 250 wikis which do not yet use Remex were switched on 23 April. This is two months early. This meant that pages with broken wikitext showed wrongly to readers. The bug was undone the next day. You can help fix broken wikitext to avoid this problem when your wiki switches. Tidy will be removed on all wikis before July 2018. You can follow the process on Phabricator. [32]

Changes later this week

• You will be able use CodeMirror in the 2017 wikitext editor on all wikis. CodeMirror helps with syntax highlighting. It has previously been a beta feature and only available on wikis with scripts that are written from left to right. [33]
• When an administrator blocks someone they will have a calendar they can use to choose when the block ends. This is to make it easier to pick a specific date. [34]
• You can soon turn on the Performance Inspector in the Editing section in your preferences. It shows information about the performance of pages. This could be the size of modules in the page, how many CSS selectors are defined on the page and how many are used, or the size of the images on the page. This tool is intended to help editors fix pages that load slowly. [35]
• There is a new abuse filter function called equals_to_any. You can use it to check if its first argument is equal (===) to any of the following ones. For example you can use it to check if the page's namespace is amongst a given set of values in a more compact way than you could earlier. You can read more on mediawiki.org.
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 1 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 2 May. It will be on all wikis from 3 May (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 1 May at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.
• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 2 May at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

• The Wikimedia Cloud Services team is working on a new project called Toolhub. The goal is to make it easier for Wikimedians to discover software tools they can use. You can leave feedback on the talk page or email jharewikimedia.org to leave private feedback.
• All wikis with fewer than 100 high-priority linter errors in all namespaces will switch to use the Remex parsing library. This is to replace Tidy. It will happen on 2 May. Other wikis will be recommended to switch soon when they have fixed the errors that must be fixed. Wikibooks wikis with fewer than 100 high-priority linter errors in the main namespace will switch on 9 May. Tidy will be removed on all wikis before July 2018. [36][37][38]

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16:18, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

User:DeprecatedFixerBot/sandbox/music infoboxes

That's one hell of a big cookie you got there :)

On that page; sorry to butt in, but if I hadn't removed it someone would have. Just hoping you can use an example image like that cookie or the kitten in your page notice. I hope your experiments work out. --Hammersoft (talk) 13:40, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

@Hammersoft: No problem, thank you for removing it. I had earlier, but that was for a different test and forgot to do it again, so my apologies. Thanks for the wishes, I hope the test for the bot works out as well. --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 15:11, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Image replaced. Also, thanks for the complement on the cookie. I am not a personal fan of chocolate chip cookies (more of an oatmeal raisin fan myself), but thought it got the point across --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 15:12, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Kindly let me know how to get this actor page approve

Hi, i have included all South India Kannada News Papers, So kindly let me know how to get this actor page approve, what more information is required. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mohanprabhus (talk • contribs) 06:47, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi there Mohanprabhus, sorry for the late response. Sources need to discuss the subject (in this case, Anil Siddhu) in detail and demonstrate notability to satisfy our biographies of living persons policy. Please see the {{citation needed}} templates that I have placed on the page for a starting point. Please keep me posted. --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 03:25, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Upendra Ananth Pai

Wiki deepti (talk) 10:35, 12 April 2018 (UTC)Hi, TheSandDoctor The page in question has been created for a person of historical importance in Manipal, India. Not much references are available online but he is certainly notable. can you tell how can this page still be published. I wish to link this page to a future page which I am planning to build.

Hi there Wiki deepti, my apologies for not responding sooner, I did not see your message until now. Offline references are totally okay to add to pages. The relevant notability guideline might be worth keeping in mind when creating bios. What sort of a page? --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 03:25, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

Reliable and independent sources are also required as primary sources tend not to indicate notability. --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 03:30, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

Sources for MCWSTP

Sand doctor,

The sources I used are the only sources that can be used as they are the sources that created the program. Can you help me out with what other source may be used? Thanks in advance.

Morletga — Preceding unsigned comment added by Morletga (talk • contribs) 10:12, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi there Morletga, thank you for reaching out. In order to demonstrate notability, independent reliable sources are needed. As I stated in the declination comment on the draft, it would be a good idea to read through this guide to referencing on Wikipedia and per the external links policy, external links should either be used as references (see WP:REFB) or be in their own "external links" style section, rather than throughout the body of the draft/article. If you have any questions, please feel free to let me know. --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 15:43, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Nerf Dog

Per your question (via email) on Draft:Nerf Dog and the user. No idea. Does not ring a bell at the moment. -- Alexf^(talk) 20:14, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

Help

Hi there,

My wiki page has been declined a few times now because of sources, I listed six before and cut it down to three thinking that maybe only reviews should be left but yet again it has been declined.

I can find sources showing concerts that the band are playing, reviews, all social media, plus where their records are sold but still this doesn't seem to be enough.

What other options do I have?

Thanks

Allan — Preceding unsigned comment added by Felix4414 (talk • contribs) 20:24, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi Allan (@Felix4414:), bands need to satisfy the notability guideline for "musicians and ensembles". Including multiple independent reviews from reliable sources (or just reliable sources in general) would definitely be a good start. This guide for writing your first article might also be worth a look, as would this guide for referencing. If you have any questions, please feel free to let me know. --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 20:35, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

Ungar Laszlo Radical Gynecologist Oncologist Surgeon.

Since I am struggling with this article but cannot seems to find the right way to reference it, can you please tell me what are the sections most needed a reference so I can remove it or find some for it....

Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gabiharan (talk • contribs) 14:03, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi there Gabiharan, sorry for the delay. I would recommend taking a look at the tags on the draft. They would be a good place to start. This guide to referencing and this guide to writing your first article might also be useful reads. Please do let me know if you have any questions. --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 22:39, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

Decline of NetSim page

Hello Sanddoctor, you declined my submission of NetSim page saying the sources aren't reliable. The sources I have mentioned are Indian Institute of Science & Indian Institute of Technology, which are the amongst the top 5 educational institutions in India. Additional sources include publishing house Pearson and IEEE - a well-known standards body. Hence I request you to re-consider.

Lady-Phoenix (talk) 02:57, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi there Lady-Phoenix, unreliable sources was not the reason for declination (see the blue comment in the message left on your talk page or the comment underneath the "resubmit" button on the draft itself), I requested additional independent reliable sources. I did not mean to imply that any sourcing within the draft was unreliable, just that independent reliable sources are needed in order to demonstrate notability (in this case, independent from Tetcos, the Indian Institute of Science, and Indian Institute of Technology Madras) and that the draft could benefit from more of them if possible.

If you have any questions, please do let me know. --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 03:57, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

Hello Sanddoctor, I have now added a couple of more independent references. I would also like to point out that there are other pages that have products similar to NetSim with far less independent references. There requesting you again to accept this page. Lady-Phoenix (talk) 04:56, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

article about musician max turner

hi sandoctor, one question - there is so many articles all over wikipedia that refer to discogy and facebook... is that a new rule?? shall i just delete them or is it improtant to find other sources? thanks for your help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ingeborgfachmann (talk • contribs) 06:53, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi there Ingeborgfachmann, sorry for the delay in my response. It is not a new rule. Facebook is a social media platform, which are generally not considered reliable, and discogs is also not considered a reliable source. In the case of Discogs though, it may be a useful source for some things or to point you in the direction for better sources. For instance, it pointed me to discovering an image of an album liner once which could be a reliably sourced.

Social media (which is self-published) does not help to demonstrate a subject's notability (that is where independent reliable sources come in).

I would recommend finding other sources to try and replace the social media ones if possible (and to expand the draft with). If you have any questions, please do let me know. --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 22:37, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

Fall of Marvel Cinematic Universe Heroes listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Fall of Marvel Cinematic Universe Heroes. Since you had some involvement with the Fall of Marvel Cinematic Universe Heroes redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 15:32, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, TheSandDoctor. You have new messages at Template talk:Cite tweet.
Message added 21:46, 28 April 2018 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

I have changed User:TweetCiteBot/status from true to false, due to the problems at the discussion mentioned above. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 21:46, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

@Emir of Wikipedia: Thanks for letting me know that you changed the value . I have replied to the discussion. Sorry for the delay, I just got home from work. --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 23:21, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. No problem about the delay Wikipedians live in different time zones and are unable to edit 24/7, but as you have fixed the problem just remember to turn the bot back on. :) --Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 11:15, 29 April 2018 (UTC)