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Wikiproject Military history coordinator election nominations open

Nominations for the upcoming project coordinator election are now open. A team of up to ten coordinators will be elected for the next year. The project coordinators are the designated points of contact for issues concerning the project, and are responsible for maintaining our internal structure and processes. They do not, however, have any authority over article content or editor conduct, or any other special powers. More information on being a coordinator is available here. If you are interested in running, please sign up here by 23:59 UTC on 14 September! Voting doesn't commence until 15 September. If you have any questions, you can contact any member of the coord team. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 02:06, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – September 2020

News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2020).

Administrator changes

added Eddie891
removed AngelaJcw69Just ChillingPhilg88Viajero

CheckUser changes

readded SQL

Guideline and policy news

  • Following a request for comment, the minimum length for site ban discussions was increased to 72 hours, up from 24.
  • A request for comment is ongoing to determine whether paid editors must or should use the articles for creation process.
  • A request for comment is open to resolve inconsistencies between the draftification and alternative to deletion processes.

Arbitration


15:59, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

Stale socks

Hi. Re your note [6]. Do socks become stale after a bit because of IP address changes or is there some other technical reason? Just curious. Thanks. --RegentsPark (comment) 18:43, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

RegentsPark, (talk page stalker) stale in the context of SPI means no edits in the last 90 days. The wikimedia software only keeps CU logs for 90 days, and after that, the data is flushed. So, "stale" means, "there's nothing in the logs to look at". -- RoySmith (talk) 19:07, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
Got it. Thanks! --RegentsPark (comment) 19:14, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

Bot removing Template:Unreferenced from draft space

What is the rationale for removing Template:Unreferenced from draft space? I understand removing stuff like {{Orphan}}, but with so many articles being moved to draft space because "undersourced, incubate in draft space" it doesn't make sense to remove the template that advises the editor what they need to do to have a viable article, and points them to Wikipedia:Citing sources where they can get help. – wbm1058 (talk) 03:26, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

@Wbm1058: This was just brought up last month as well. I will point to Primefac's answer in the archives. The templates also explicitly talk about "articles", which can cause misconceptions when placed on drafts for new/inexperienced editors. --TheSandDoctor Talk 03:36, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
Well, sorry, but that's kind of a lame answer. Just modify the template to not populate the category, or better, populate a different category when in draft space, and adjust the message to one appropriate for display in draft space. Removing these is wasting the time of patrolling editors who don't know draftspace procedures but are in good faith helping by tagging with a template they do know.
Could you make it remove {{good article}} and {{featured article}}. You would be surprised at how often I run into that; I've been manually removing them (good) (featured) which is a pain. – wbm1058 (talk) 03:54, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
You might find it to be a lame answer, but the current practice is to remove maintenance tags in the Draft space because it is assumed that said draft will overcome those concerns before being moved back to the article space. As far as the GA and FA templates, that's reasonable (since it's pretty much guaranteed that a drafted page won't be a GA or FA when it's moved back to the article space); Wikipedia talk:Bots/Requests for approval/TheSandBot 2 is the place to request amendments to the task. Primefac (talk) 16:03, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

16:18, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

Milhist coordinator election voting has commenced

G'day everyone, voting for the 2020 Wikiproject Military history coordinator tranche is now open. This is a simple approval vote; only "support" votes should be made. Project members should vote for any candidates they support by 23:59 (UTC) on 28 September 2020. Thanks from the outgoing coord team, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 05:18, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

Bot did something strange

Hi - can you take a look at this edit by TheSandBot - the edit summary says that the bot did various things, but in reality it didn't? Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 09:06, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

@Curb Safe Charmer: That is indeed strange. Codebase reworked. Hopefully that doesn't occur again. I will start spot checking again on next run. --TheSandDoctor Talk 13:24, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
@Curb Safe Charmer: After a re-write and some tweaking, it appears to be functional again. Fingers crossed. Thank you for bringing this issue to my attention! --TheSandDoctor Talk 05:35, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

You've got mail!

{{You've got mail}} DannyS712 (talk) 01:22, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

@DannyS712:  Done --TheSandDoctor Talk 01:29, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

21:26, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Randall Lane (journalist)

On 26 September 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Randall Lane (journalist), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that The New York Times named Forbes magazine editor Randall Lane one of the 922 most powerful people in America? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Randall Lane (journalist). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Randall Lane (journalist)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 00:01, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

@Pratyush.shrivastava: I have restored it to User:Pratyush.shrivastava/Anurag Arora. Please run it by me or submit through WP:AFC before moving to mainspace. --TheSandDoctor Talk 07:34, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
Thank you -- Pratyush.shrivastava (talk) 08:29, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
@TheSandDoctor: I have worked on User:Pratyush.shrivastava/Anurag Arora. Please check this for me, I've also added a tag for notability and citation requirement (The article is stub). I think the page can now be moved to main space so that other editors can help establishing notability and improve article further. I know it needs more work no issues if you think article doesn't belong to Wikipedia yet, I'll continue working in draft. Thank you -- Pratyush.shrivastava (talk) 08:25, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
@Pratyush.shrivastava: (This story has not been edited by Business Standard staff and is auto-generated from a syndicated feed.)" in the Business Standard source does not help towards notability and "Outlook India" has the same issue. It seems basically all sources are generated from "IANS" and that none of the sources satisfy the "significant coverage" requirement of WP:BASIC. Arora also appears to not satisfy WP:NACTOR. If you need to notability tag a draft, it probably isn't worth becoming an article. The tag also isn't suitable for drafts based on current practice. --TheSandDoctor Talk 13:05, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

21:23, 28 September 2020 (UTC)