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Incomprehensibility

I suspect that when you wrote "comprehensive prose and wording" on your user page, you meant to write something else. -- Hoary (talk) 23:39, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

I am sorry, but I do not understand what you mean by this. Please, can you be more concise with your statement? CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 23:42, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
Concision is indeed admirable. And comprehensiveness of prose is sometimes close to its antonym. Did you perhaps mean to write "comprehensible prose and wording"? -- Hoary (talk) 04:51, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
Yes. Thank you. I should be trouted for something silly like that. CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 11:56, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
Don't worry about it. I'm sure I've done much worse. (When sleepy, I even confuse "their" and "they're".) -- Hoary (talk) 12:46, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

IP 2603’s personal attacks

On the Multiverse of Madness talkpage, the comment starting with “You wanna know something really interesting?”, does it fall under WP:NOPA?--CreecregofLife (talk) 02:25, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

Possibly. It certainly does sound rude. However, it must appear as a deliberate/straightforward statement or else the sysops may not consider it as a personal attack. CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 02:31, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
"So you acting like some be-all-end-all authority on the matter, it's beyond ridiculous. I'm an anon user, yes, but at this point, even I can tell you to go sit in a time out."
Seems pretty direct to me CreecregofLife (talk) 02:35, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
Go for it then. be bold. CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 02:37, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
Apparently, someone decided to tattle to ANI on me? By a newly registered user who apparently held a weeks-long grudge about a reversion I made, and then called my presence on the MoM talkpage "toxic" CreecregofLife (talk) 04:33, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
Obviously the reporter is the anonymous IP. You had the right to condemn this personal attack, because this editor is making extreme accusations. I highly doubt that this newly-created account is from “someone else” in the IP’s household, and they should have never reported you when they started the personal attack. The editor should receive a warning, but please refrain from strong emotions. I try to always WP:ASG, but it is not a good look to have an outburst on ANI. I believe that you have improved from your past in edit warring, but others may not. CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 05:26, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
It’s just exhausting and angering to be having to keep defending myself like this, and then be condemned for having a “battleground attitude” and no self-reflection. Like, what am I supposed to do when they handcuff my arguments like that? Nothing I say or do matters. They constantly demand i self-reflect but have yet to reflect on how I’ve actually been treated. I’ve had multiple users come at me with petty underhanded tactics and personal attacks just because I tried to be reasonable with them, or in other cases saw through some bigoted arguments and they’re taken aback when they’re called out on it. I shouldn’t be punished for getting loud and angry. I didn’t resort to insults, I didn’t curse. They won’t even try to understand what brought me to that point because all they see in me is bad CreecregofLife (talk) 06:45, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

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Trouted

Whack!

You've been whacked with a wet trout.

Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly.

You have been trouted for: Please see this diff. Mistakes do happen, so... — B. L. I. R. 02:33, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

I’ve been trouted at last! I am so happy! Thank you! CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 02:33, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

May 2022

Hi CollectiveSolidarity. I find it strange to have to tell you this, but please refrain from blanking talk page sections like you did here, especially after others (myself in this case) have commented. Please be advised that repeating this behavior may result in loss of editing privileges. Thanks, FASTILY 06:42, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

Quite ironic on my part, but I understand. It will not happen again. CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 14:56, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

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DYK for Frankie Saluto

On 21 May 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Frankie Saluto, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Frankie Saluto was a member of the Ringling Giants, a dwarf baseball team that raised money for charity? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Frankie Saluto. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Frankie Saluto), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Regents

Theresa wasn’t regent for her son, she was a countess in her own right — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.18.192.18 (talk) 15:42, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

But she was also was the acting as Queen of Portugal while her son was just a child, that is what a regent is. Next time, explain this in an edit summary. CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 15:54, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

Kevin Durant

Why you delete my edits for KD? Don’t you see that I have attached the reference? You loser please stop doing foolish things. Dreamkd (talk) 18:58, 28 May 2022 (UTC)

You added commentary to that article, as Bagumba said on your talk page. To Quote Bagumba :
"While Wikipedia welcomes editors' opinions on an article and how it could be changed, these comments are more appropriate for the article's accompanying talk page. If you post your comments there, other editors working on the same article will notice and respond to them, and your comments will not disrupt the flow of the article. However, keep in mind that even on the talk page of an article, you should limit your discussion to improving the article. Article talk pages are not the place to discuss opinions of the subject of articles, nor are such pages a forum."
Also please do not call me a loser. That is a personal attack, and Wikipedia forbids that. Thank you, CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 19:09, 28 May 2022 (UTC)

Murcielago SV production

Hi CollectiveSolidarity, One of the sources I referenced is an actual Lamborghini historian, (However, I can delete the other two sources, which were taken from two people who are not historians) who is extremely knowledgable when it comes to these types of cars. As the reliable source section states, "media must be produced by a reliable source" I'd say John Temerian is considered to be a reliable source when it comes to these types of things. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by ROCKSTAR HELLA (talk • contribs) 21:05, 28 May 2022 (UTC)

I would take your word for it, but per WP:RSPYT, sources from YouTube should not be used at all. If you could find a reliable source that is not from YouTube, then you can include it in the article. CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 21:09, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
Alright! Let me see if I'm able to find something not from youtube ROCKSTAR HELLA (talk) 21:22, 28 May 2022 (UTC)

Newspapers.com

I'm not recalling how to go about it, but the WMF will pay subscription fees for sites like that. We also have a forum just for newer editors called The Teahouse. The volunteers there will be glad to help you find those resources. 174.212.229.61 (talk) 08:27, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for telling me this. I have not asked any questions at the teahouse yet (I prefer to read the Manual of Style) but I will ask if this service is available. CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 14:25, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
I didn't realize you were so new. Scorpions13256 (talk) 23:17, 13 April 2022 (UTC)
There is also something called the Wikipedia Library that gives access to library databases. There is a minimum amount of participation to become eligible though; I am not sure what it is but the Teahouse would know. I am also willing to help if you want but the Teahouse is more official. Elinruby (talk)<

Steep

It isn’t really an editorializing word, you know, just an adjective. I didn’t revert you because people revert too much, and I don’t have actual objections to “major” except that it might possibly be a bit trite. I don’t think it’s an improvement but it’s also not wrong, basically. But ok, I did want to talk to you about it a little. If you somehow graphed the violence of the war over time, whether based on deaths, or missile strikes, economic costs, or whatever, the graph would go sharply up, so in this case the word is actually objective.

I like the way you are thinking; when I edit for neutral point of view I sometimes use an edit summary that says “removing adjectives”. I am just at loose ends for a moment and so taking the time to point out to you that while editorializing uses adjectives, not all adjectives are editorializing.

I realize that I probably sound like I’m overthinking this. Welcome to Wikipedia ;) One of my self-assigned wiki missions is keeping that article small enough to add on to still, because the war isn’t over yet, so I have been giving quite a bit of thought to its wording, especially in the lede, shrug. I hope this friendly quibble is coming across as a friendly quibble as it is intended to, and thank you for contributing to Wikipedia;) Elinruby (talk) 08:51, 5 June 2022 (UTC)

I understand. But next time, please do not include such a long section over a minor revert. It comes across as condescending. CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 15:22, 5 June 2022 (UTC)

I didn’t revert it. And I was trying, apparently too hard, not to sound condescending. In any event, have a nice day. Elinruby (talk) 17:15, 5 June 2022 (UTC)

Oromo expansion

Why do accounts like this seem to always revert edits and do their worthless moderation without actually reading the content? Are they bots. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:280:CB02:1C79:146E:722B:2C2B:5CC7 (talk) 03:56, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

I perceived that the Oromo migrations article had still not adequately addressed its lack of citations and original research. Your reason for removing the tags was that they were “too old”, which does not necessarily mean that they should be removed. CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 04:03, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
But weve put effort into using multiple references over the course of the last couple months. So I need to create an account? 2601:280:CB02:1C79:146E:722B:2C2B:5CC7 (talk) 04:09, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
The page currently heavily relies upon the source “Pankhurst 1997”, which is why I maintained the tag. Some other additions did not have adequate citations as well. You don’t have to create an account to help with the article, but I would recommend it. Just remember, you can use only one account while editing, so don’t use your IP again if you create one. Doing so would be considered sockpuppetry. Cheers! CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 04:13, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

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Thank you, Fastily! CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 02:50, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

United States

Hi. Apologies for being harsh in an edit summary. The rollback will create lots of add-backs, and these were some of them which should stand well. Kind of a mess which editors will have to compare to see what good edits were removed. Thanks for your patience. Randy Kryn (talk) 18:44, 11 June 2022 (UTC)

Ha, we crossed in talk page message. Very appreciated, thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 18:45, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
Mobile editing is a bit quirky with rollback, so again, my apologies for misclicking! CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 18:46, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
Thanks. I've never edited on mobile (and only looked on Wikipedia once on it, when someone was showing me a page) so can only imagine how hard it would be in some situations. You were only being vigilant, commendable. I also have to assume that many of the scores of edits rolled back by someone else were very good ones, and hopefully many will be returned either by the original editor or by people checking the edits. Nice to meet you along the road. Randy Kryn (talk) 18:50, 11 June 2022 (UTC)

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Mz7 (talk) 00:01, 12 June 2022 (UTC)

Rash of edits again....and one very unique addition

this and this make me think something is funny. 15+ years never seen this.Moxy- 01:18, 12 June 2022 (UTC)

@Moxy Perhaps an investigation must be taken. It does appear to be awfully suspicious. CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 01:23, 12 June 2022 (UTC)

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Added your guestbook on Jack's list

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September music

September songs

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Just wanted to let you know I claimed one of your mentee's after a talk page discussion with them. I'm going to help them learn the ropes of editing and creating content through a series of lessons in an effort to avoid any further sanctions and aid them in growth and development. Should you object or should they decide to no longer accept my assistance I will return them to you as a mentee. --ARoseWolf 18:58, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. Take care and good luck. ‡ The Night Watch ω (talk) 01:35, 25 October 2022 (UTC)

October thanks

October songs

Thank you for improving articles in October! - Look for mine: two favourite concerts were on DYK, and too many on RD (three yesterday). -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:21, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

Question from LZorrer (05:59, 26 October 2022)

I just made a draft about a chess opening variation and i want to publish it, how can i do it? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Mikenas_Defense:_Lithuanian_Variation --LZorrer (talk) 05:59, 26 October 2022 (UTC)

@LZorrer Hello there! I think you should wait a bit before publishing it. Articles require multiple sources that establish notability, in short it means answering the criteria : Does this article contain at least two reliable sources that are independent that talk about the subject in detail (significant coverage)? If so, then you can most likely publish an article on it.
Chessgames.com doesn't appear to provide enough information to support the facts in the Theory and Origin sections, so I suggest finding some sources and citing those sections. After you material is properly sourced, you can submit the article by pressing "Submit this Draft For review" on the page banner I added to your draft, letting one of our volunteers check it and then publish it when it is ready. But if you cannot find enough sources to meet notability, you could also just put material about the Lithuanian variation at the article Queen's Knight Defense. If you have any other questions, the Teahouse is a good place to go. Cheers! ‡ The Night Watch ω (talk) 12:21, 26 October 2022 (UTC)

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Question from TamarToronto (04:11, 13 November 2022)

Hi :( I’ve been trying to create this page for four months. --TamarToronto (talk) 04:11, 13 November 2022 (UTC)

@TamarToronto Hello there! First, you appear to have a connection to the subject, so that means you have a conflict of interest and must disclose your COI. Also, if you are paid for your contributions to this draft, you must declare so. After that, I suggest that you try reading Your first article and looking at the posts on your talk page. The article is currently heavily reliant on sources closely related to your subject, and the article needs at least two reliable, independent sources. ‡ The Night Watch ω (talk) 05:02, 13 November 2022 (UTC)

Thank you so much for your input. Yes, I thought I declare that on my main page. I’m not sure where else I should clear it. I definitely am not getting any money lol I will go and read that article again which I did but I will. I do understand the sources issue .

Thank you very much TamarToronto (talk) 14:08, 13 November 2022 (UTC)

Question from Bafflab on Help:Searching (01:23, 15 November 2022)

Hello, how do i delete my account --Bafflab (talk) 01:23, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

@Bafflab Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. It is impossible to delete an account, but you can nonetheless stop using it. ‡ The Night Watch ω (talk) 01:26, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Ghost Song (video game) (2) (November 16)

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This appears to be a duplicate of another submission, Ghost Song (video game), which is also waiting to be reviewed. To save time we will consider the other submission and not this one.
Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.
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Hello, I'm sorry for missing your draft earlier (I had just named my draft Ghost Song since I had forgotten the video game suffix). I believe your draft was a little older then mine, and had I noticed it when planning the draft, I would have contributed to that draft instead of starting from scratch. Thank you for your time, and sorry for missing that. Mbrickn (talk) 20:54, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
No worries ‡ The Night Watch ω (talk) 04:12, 17 November 2022 (UTC)
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review is being written at this time.Blue Pumpkin Pie (talk) 16:18, 18 November 2022 (UTC)

De-also-ification

Hi The Night Watch,

Great to see that de-also-ification is catching on! Oftentimes it's an unnecessary word. Recently I stumbled upon Hitman 3, where I removed also 24 times. There's one downside though: now you can't unsee it any other articles. Thanks, and happy de-also-ification. soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 17:21, 20 November 2022 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Enter the Gungeon

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November thanks

November songs

Thank you for improving articles in November while I was on vacation. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:19, 20 November 2022 (UTC)

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Prakash Bhende

Hello, The Night Watch,

I was looking over the AFD discussion on this article and while it very well might be deleted, you tagged it for AFD 21 minutes after it was created. That is not enough time for even the best content creator to write a decent article and source it properly.

In the future, please do not be so quick to send newly created articles to AFD. Allow the article creator a few hours or even a day (or longer!) to pull together a version of an article that might survive a deletion discussion. While its preferred that editors create articles and develop them over time in their sandbox or Draft space, some editors prefer to write directly into main space and it's nearly impossible to write a decent article that quickly. As I said, it could be that this article subject is not notable and the article will be deleted, but unless there is really troublesome content (BLP violations, copyright problems, advertising, etc.), please do not be so quick to tag a newly created article for an AFD discussion. Thank you, in advance, for taking into consideration the concerns of content creators and new editors. Liz Read! Talk! 22:18, 29 November 2022 (UTC)

Thank you Liz. I will keep that in mind for the future.
Also, thank you for all the good work you do at AfD. It's a slog, but I'm thankful that closers like you do a good job. ‡ The Night Watch ω (talk) 22:25, 29 November 2022 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Kingdom Two Crowns

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Kingdom Two Crowns you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Shooterwalker -- Shooterwalker (talk) 21:24, 30 November 2022 (UTC)

TheWikiWizard - December 2022

Hey, The Night Watch! Here is the December 2022 issue for the TheWikiWizard! We've been dormant for a few months!

Humor

  • How many times will you write 2022 in 2023??
  • Don't write Christmas Cards/do gift shopping in December, do it in the summer!

Wiki(p/m)edia News

Not much to report this issue, but we do have these to report!

  • Quite a few RFAs took place since the last issue of this newsletter. You can view more here!
  • The Voting for a sound logo is taking place on Wikimedia Commons, head over to that link to find out more!
  • The Arbitration Committee Elections is happening on the English Wikipedia. (The elections may have finished by the time you see this message, please check the page for the date and time of the election deadline)

Editor's Notes

  • Have a great holiday and new years! We'll see you in 2023.


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Question from Jihad rajabi on OpenAI (00:35, 15 December 2022)

فعليات عن العمل الجماعي --Jihad rajabi (talk) 00:35, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but I cannot understand this. Can you please ask this question in English if possible? ‡ The Night Watch ω (talk) 00:37, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

Question from Carlpedro94 (06:59, 19 December 2022)

Hello, how do I create a new article? --Carlpedro94 (talk) 06:59, 19 December 2022 (UTC)

@Carlpedro94 Hello there! There are a few ways to create a new article, but the most straightforward way is to read Help:Your first article and follow the directions there. But creating an article is tricky for new editors like yourself, and I recommend that you take a look at the Wikipedia:Task Center and see if there are smaller tasks that you’d like to help out with. But if you are interested in creating an article right now, you should read Help:Your first article and then use the Article wizard to create a draft article. If you have any questions, you can ask me or post a question to The Teahouse, an area where more experience editors can answer questions. Cheers! The Night Watch (talk) 16:34, 19 December 2022 (UTC)

Merry Merry!

Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2023!

Hello The Night Watch, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2023.
Happy editing,
JOEBRO64 14:14, 26 December 2022 (UTC)

Spread the love by adding {{subst:Seasonal Greetings}} to other user talk pages.

JOEBRO64 14:14, 26 December 2022 (UTC)

Thank you Joe! Merry Christmas to you and your family as well! The Night Watch (talk) 16:20, 26 December 2022 (UTC)

Moving pages to draftspace

Hi, when reviewing pages, please don't move everything into draftspace. Sometimes it's suitable when a page needs more than tagging and cleanup in mainspace, for things like Draft:Green Entertainment, just CSD it. Try to avoid using draftification as a 6-month PROD. Anarchyte (talk) 06:38, 29 December 2022 (UTC)

Thank you @Anarchyte. Though perhaps you should check the author, as they appear to have created similar pages that may also need to be G11ed. Once again, thank you and happy holidays. The Night Watch (talk) 17:13, 29 December 2022 (UTC)

NPP Award for 2022

The New Page Patroller's Barnstar

For over 100 article reviews during 2022. Thank you for patrolling new pages and helping us out with the backlog! -MPGuy2824 (talk) 03:44, 2 January 2023 (UTC)

New Pages Patrol newsletter January 2023

Hello The Night Watch,

New Page Review queue December 2022
Backlog

The October drive reduced the backlog from 9,700 to an amazing 0! Congratulations to WaddlesJP13 who led with 2084 points. See this page for further details. The queue is steadily rising again and is approaching 2,000. It would be great if <2,000 were the “new normal”. Please continue to help out even if it's only for a few or even one patrol a day.

2022 Awards

Onel5969 won the 2022 cup for 28,302 article reviews last year - that's an average of nearly 80/day. There was one Gold Award (5000+ reviews), 11 Silver (2000+), 28 Iron (360+) and 39 more for the 100+ barnstar. Rosguill led again for the 4th year by clearing 49,294 redirects. For the full details see the Awards page and the Hall of Fame. Congratulations everyone!

Minimum deletion time: The previous WP:NPP guideline was to wait 15 minutes before tagging for deletion (including draftification and WP:BLAR). Due to complaints, a consensus decided to raise the time to 1 hour. To illustrate this, very new pages in the feed are now highlighted in red. (As always, this is not applicable to attack pages, copyvios, vandalism, etc.)

New draftify script: In response to feedback from AFC, the The Move to Draft script now provides a choice of set messages that also link the creator to a new, friendly explanation page. The script also warns reviewers if the creator is probably still developing the article. The former script is no longer maintained. Please edit your edit your common.js or vector.js file from User:Evad37/MoveToDraft.js to User:MPGuy2824/MoveToDraft.js

Redirects: Some of our redirect reviewers have reduced their activity and the backlog is up to 9,000+ (two months deep). If you are interested in this distinctly different task and need any help, see this guide, this checklist, and spend some time at WP:RFD.

Discussions with the WMF The PageTriage open letter signed by 444 users is bearing fruit. The Growth Team has assigned some software engineers to work on PageTriage, the software that powers the NewPagesFeed and the Page Curation toolbar. WMF has submitted dozens of patches in the last few weeks to modernize PageTriage's code, which will make it easier to write patches in the future. This work is helpful but is not very visible to the end user. For patches visible to the end user, volunteers such as Novem Linguae and MPGuy2824 have been writing patches for bug reports and feature requests. The Growth Team also had a video conference with the NPP coordinators to discuss revamping the landing pages that new users see.

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Page mover granted

Hello, The Night Watch. Your account has been granted the "extendedmover" user right, either following a request for it or demonstrating familiarity with working with article names and moving pages. You are now able to rename pages without leaving behind a redirect, move subpages when moving the parent page(s), and move category pages.

Please take a moment to review Wikipedia:Page mover for more information on this user right, especially the criteria for moving pages without leaving a redirect. Please remember to follow post-move cleanup procedures and make link corrections where necessary, including broken double-redirects when suppressredirect is used. This can be done using Special:WhatLinksHere. It is also very important that no one else be allowed to access your account, so you should consider taking a few moments to secure your password. As with all user rights, be aware that if abused, or used in controversial ways without consensus, your page mover status can be revoked.

Useful links:

If you do not want the page mover right anymore, just let me know, and I'll remove it. Thank you, and happy editing! Salvio 16:05, 5 January 2023 (UTC)

DYK for Kingdom Two Crowns

On 10 January 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Kingdom Two Crowns, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the music for the Norse Lands DLC of Kingdom Two Crowns utilizes the hurdy-gurdy and moraharpa? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Kingdom Two Crowns. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Kingdom Two Crowns), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

BorgQueen (talk) 12:02, 10 January 2023 (UTC)

Question from ArteryResearch (14:44, 22 January 2023)

hello los dolor metroz mama joe? --ArteryResearch (talk) 14:44, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

That move went well!

Shhh, nobody saw! 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 20:37, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

Aye, sorry about that! Don't think there are any technical problems, but I'm willing to help with cleanup if I missed anything trout Self-trout :). The Night Watch (talk) 20:41, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
Shit happens. It ought to have gone back right 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 20:42, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

January music

January songs
happy new year

-- Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:39, 26 January 2023 (UTC)

Hello

Do review the page Kristy Scott. Hope this message meets you well. Cheers. Amaekuma (talk) 10:58, 3 February 2023 (UTC)

@Amaekuma Hi there. I've been a bit busy lately off-wiki and I don't have a lot of time to review. However, I did move some stuff around and check a few sources. I'm no WP:BLP expert, but I think the article meets WP:ANYBIO 1 because Forbes 30 Under 30 appears to be a significant award. Another reviewer will have to do the checking. So sorry I couldn't do much! Is there another way that I can help you out? The Night Watch (talk) 14:13, 3 February 2023 (UTC)

Question from Michael Eric Dehn (23:22, 12 February 2023)

How do I change the background information on Metro Pulse? I am in possession of multiple in force US trademarks that clarifiy I CREATED Metro Pulse with documented first use rights in 1980 and I am currently in possession of and maintain metropulse.com. None of this is reflected in the bio currently posted. Need to change to reflect the documented facts and current status --Michael Eric Dehn (talk) 23:22, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

@Michael Eric Dehn (talk page watcher) you would be unwise to edit Metro Pulse because you are, presumably, the Michael E Dean flagged as web site owner. However, the Wikipedia article is one you do not, may not, and will be prevented from controlling. Please see WP:COI, WP:PAID and WP:OWN. You may make edit requests on its talk page, using {{Requested edit}}, providing references to significant coverage in independent reliable sources to request such changes as you believe will be acceptable. Trademarks are just trademarks, I'm afraid. We document what is recorded in secondary sources. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 23:32, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
I was not looking to "control" as history stated on bio is real regarding Knoxville publication until we shut it down for trademark infringement in 2015 excepting for fact listed parties DID NOT CREATE publication, I DID and can prove it here AND in a court of law , what is needed to show the masses wikipedia has legitimacy in regards to content by highlighting the trademarks I can post regarding my documented history of first use rights AS RECOGNIZED BY THE US GOVERNMENT and current ownership. Also I do not own metropulse.com spelled with dean as last name as all listings for my domains are PRIVATE and you misspelled my last name. GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT bucko and pay attention. This is precisely why I am inquiring about changing the page and calling out the fact you people are loose with the proven facts and even looser in pursuing the real facts. Prove me otherwise and guide me into posting the true history of Metro Pulse because at this point this is my primary purpose for getting involved with you. Many of my past publications of Metro Pulse from a full decade before BS claim on your bio regarding creation are featured on one of my other sites rock-expo.com if you choose to take the time to look. I also posted a podcast on the top of site (Zepfan#5) that verbally acknowledges my story and references facts as they happened dovetailed with visual proof on site. Take the time to verify and get back to me on how to proceed 23.25.8.205 (talk) 00:07, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
Trademarks are JUST trademarks? HOW IDIOT STUPID is that? They represent the fundamental right to own your branding presence and can be bought and sold as real assets and PROTECT your right to use and profit from a trademark and legally shut down anyone infringing on that right. Wikipedia not recognizing that needs to be called out as hypocrisy and undermines your credibility which right now is sorely lacking . Wow, what ignorance. How old are you? You sound like a real novice 23.25.8.205 (talk) 00:24, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
TNW: I am replying to the IP editor by assuming it is Dehn, and used their talk page to do so. No good deed goes unpunished, it seems. I'm sorry this has seemed to explode on your talk page, which has made this an interesting meeting! I'll welcome any additions you feel are appropriate there, the more so if I have missed anything. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 09:09, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
No worries! Thank you for your reply. The Night Watch (talk) 14:51, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

Promotion of The Longing

Congratulations, The Night Watch! The article you nominated, The Longing, has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best articles on Wikipedia. The nomination discussion has been archived.
This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. If you would like, you may nominate it to appear on the Main page as Today's featured article. Keep up the great work! Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) via FACBot (talk) 00:06, 16 February 2023 (UTC)

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