User talk:The Spirit of Oohoowahoo

Crime stats

Thank you for updating the crime stats on NYC neighborhood articles. It's a much appreciated and little-recognized task so I commend you for it. epicgenius (talk) 15:38, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

No problem! I just started editing a day or two ago so I am not very experienced, just trying to help in whatever way I can. I live in NYC as well so I figured might as well start there. The Spirit of Oohoowahoo (talk) 15:42, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

Schools

Thanks for your edits to neighborhood articles. One thing that I may point out, though, is per Wikipedia:External links#Links in lists, we rarely format the lists themselves as external links, like in this edit. Even though it would be much easier to do so, this is not recommended by Wikipedia guidelines, and furthermore, these links can be used as references for the grades that each school services. Thanks again for your work in this field. epicgenius (talk) 22:54, 20 March 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. I was doing it for convenience sake of getting to the website but I understand why it is the policy to not have it that way. I will change them back. The Spirit of Oohoowahoo (talk) 23:58, 20 March 2020 (UTC)

PS/IS 187

Before you spend too much time and energy writing an article on PS/IS 187, you might want to read WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES, in particular:

Most elementary (primary) and middle schools that don't source a clear claim to notability usually get merged or redirected to the school district authority that operates them (generally North America) or the lowest level locality (elsewhere or where there is no governing body).

It's almost invariable that articles on elementary and middle schools do not survive an AfD.

Just thought I'd let you know. Beyond My Ken (talk) 04:23, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

Hmm... I see what you mean, and don't worry as I haven't actually started on it yet or anything. However it is a pretty old school and for that reason has been mentioned in several sources on Washington Heights for its role at the center of conflicts over desegregation & community control in the 60s. But I'll definitely do a thorough search to make sure there is enough before committing to anything, and I'm completely fine with not writing it. Thanks for letting me know. The Spirit of Oohoowahoo (talk) 10:44, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

No problem. Beyond My Ken (talk) 21:36, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

Inwood

The reason I bolded Dyckman Oval[1] is that I created a redirect for the ballpark which points to that section and I wanted it to stand out a little bit. I could write a separate article on Dyckman Oval, but I don't have enough info (so far) to do it justice. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 12:11, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi, Baseball Bugs! Yeah, that makes perfect sense to have a redirect. However (I might be completely wrong about this because I am pretty new here) whenever I have seen the boldface text in other articles it's always for the thing the article is about, usually like other names for the article's topic. Also it does seem weird to have a big boldface for something that, while I'm sure is very interesting, doesn't make sense to be boldfaced more than anything else in the article that has a redirect. The Spirit of Oohoowahoo (talk) 12:37, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

Rogereeny. :) ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 13:42, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

Images and their layout

Just a note to let you know that I'm rather fussy about image layouts in articles that I have a special interest in. That doesn't necessarily mean you should stop adding images, but please do be aware that at some point articles can get overloaded with images. It does mean that at some point i will probably dive in and do a culling/rearrangement of the images to make the article as visually attractive as possible for the reader. Thanks, Beyond My Ken (talk) 22:12, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

Yeah I completely get that Beyond My Ken, feel free to do whatever. I actually just removed an image that I had added because I realized it wasn't necessary. It is a bit hard for me to know what the article will look like to the reader on desktop (on mobile the image pretty much takes up the whole screen width before the paragraph so that's fairly simple) because I actually edit on mobile but with the desktop interface because the mobile editor is so bad. So how it looks to me while I'm editing is pretty much not how it will look for anyone else. Anyway thanks for the message! The Spirit of Oohoowahoo (talk) 00:30, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Yes, I know that problem, which I why I keep a number of browsers on my computer so I can see how the article looks under different circumstance. I also sign out and see what someone without an account will see, and cign back in and change the "skin" to see how that effects it. All that stuff. Beyond My Ken (talk)

Audience scores

Please note MOS:TVRECEPTION and WP:USERGENERATED and WP:RS.

"Audience" scores from user voted web polls not allowed, please do not add scores such as those from IMDB to television of film articles as you did with the article Style Wars. -- 109.76.203.83 (talk) 13:01, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

Okay thanks for letting me know. The Spirit of Oohoowahoo (talk) 13:03, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

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Congrats on this good article nomination. If it's OK with you, I'll nominate this for Did You Know since there are plenty of interesting facts that can be said about the subject. Epicgenius (talk) 23:19, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Ha you read my mind. A while ago I came up with some ideas, let me know what you think. Some things that I thought of that are clickbaity: "home to a haunted house (allegedly haunted, but then again what higher standard is there really) where the musical Hamilton was written," (technically true since Lin-Manuel Miranda said he sat in Aaron Burr's room for part of the writing process). But maybe that's too focused on Morris-Jumel Mansion, it doesn't really have to do with the neighborhood itself. Other facts are the "lighthouse saved by a children’s book," and the Polo Grounds where two people accidentally died. Something else I thought of that would be more focused on the neighborhood is, "Washington Heights, Manhattan has at different points throughout its history been called “Frankfurt on the Hudson,” “Moscow on the Hudson,” “the Jewish Alps,” “the Astoria of Manhattan,” and “Quisqueya Heights”?" However it's a little long, I would also have to add some of those names to the article if it were to get used. Another option is something like "Washington Heights, Manhattan neighborhood is home to the United States’ largest Dominican community, and has been a key campaign location for elections in the Dominican Republic?" It's a bit more boring but it would work too. The Spirit of Oohoowahoo (talk) 23:31, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

The Spirit of Oohoowahoo, these could all work. I'll nominate the page in the morning and add your suggestions and some of mine, and we'll see what sticks. Epicgenius (talk) 01:25, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

I had some additional hooks that could work. (1) "...that the construction of an expressway in Washington Heights, Manhattan, made it a hotspot for the crack cocaine trade?"; (2) "...that Washington Heights, Manhattan , contains the highest natural point in Manhattan?" (probably not as interesting); (3) "...that residents of Washington Heights, Manhattan , use subway elevators to travel across the neighborhood?" I'll probably nominate this later today. Epicgenius (talk) 16:38, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

Ehhhhh while the first one is pretty interesting it wouldn't really be accurate to say it "made it" a hotspot, more like "contributed to it being" a hotspot. I agree that the second one isn't very interesting, the third one is mildly interesting though. The Spirit of Oohoowahoo (talk) 17:17, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

I nominated a couple hooks for consideration. I guess it's worth seeing what the reviewer likes the most. Sadly the fact about having the US's largest Dominican community isn't in the article (and I found a few sources that indicate the Bronx might actually be larger, depending on how you count). I nominated the Hamilton hook though. Epicgenius (talk) 22:20, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

Yep you got it, I didn't put it in the article because I couldn't really find a decent source that would say it. Here's an example: the NYC Landmarks reports are usually very well researched, one of the most recent ones that I used for the religion section is this: Holyrood Church. On page 10 where is says background for the neighborhood it says, "By the 1980s Washington Heights and Inwood had the largest concentration of Dominicans in the country," specifically citing the NYC Encyclopedia. But on that page in the encyclopedia it literally doesn't say that, it says that the areas of greatest concentration include Washington Heights but are also the Bronx, Corona, etc. There's definitely a lot of I guess tertiary sources like the Holyrood Church report that repeat the claim, but I haven't found an original secondary source that does. If one does exist it would have to have some criteria for how it determines the "largest community" or "largest concentration."

Anyway... thanks for nominating! All of the hooks are good but I think my favorite are the 0, 2, and 4. I get why Ceoil said that they preferred 4, it definitely is clickbaity. I really had to rack my brains to come up with something so barely true though lol, I think it's gonna attract a lot of "incredulous" clicks. The Spirit of Oohoowahoo (talk) 01:11, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Washington Heights, Manhattan

On 10 August 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Washington Heights, Manhattan, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Morris–Jumel Mansion in Washington Heights, Manhattan, where the musical Hamilton was written, has been described as a haunted house? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Washington Heights, Manhattan. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Washington Heights, Manhattan), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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