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Another imposition[edit]

Can I interest you, perhaps, in the peer review for Wendell Willkie? He came to London once when the tourist trade was at an all-time low ... Many thanks.--Wehwalt (talk) 16:26, 3 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It will be a pleasure. And at least I know who WW was, unlike my complete ignorance of George Mason. Tim riley talk 16:42, 3 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Well, we educate each other.--Wehwalt (talk) 17:13, 5 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Tim and Wehwalt, I'll get to this one tonight. Really looking forward to it! You did the man justice. - Dank (push to talk) 03:00, 5 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It was enjoyable. Thank you.--Wehwalt (talk) 15:26, 5 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Btw, I'll go put something in my userspace about the capitalization on "prime minister". There are a bunch of different constraints; it's not a tractable problem. - Dank (push to talk) 15:49, 5 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Quite so! I think one can become seriously unhinged trying to cope with this question. I find it no problem to write about several "prime ministers", but, illogicaly, I cannot bring myself to leave the capitals off "Lord Chancellor", whether singular or plural. Tim riley talk 16:26, 5 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
You're right, I tried to write out my explanation and actually became unhinged. Short version: what you guys have in the article isn't fine at TFA because I need consistent rules at TFA to keep my sanity, but it's fine at FAC (with my usual FAC copyeditor hat on), because copyeditors lose arguments like this one every day, and we've learned to pick our battles, particularly when we don't have a job description hanging over us that tells us what we're required to do battle over. - Dank (push to talk) 17:45, 5 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Wehwalt: Do I speak for the firm of Wehley and Riwalt in agreeing happily to whatever capitalisation preserves Dank's grip on sanity? Tim riley talk 18:03, 5 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, as he pleases.--Wehwalt (talk) 19:50, 5 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:02, 21 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 02 December 2015[edit]

Cluestick Award[edit]


Thanks for putting in an unexpected word (above and beyond), in spite of all the shoutiness. Cheers! THEPROMENADER   17:53, 8 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

That is very kind, Promenader, and much appreciated. I much prefer a stroll in the boulevards to a troll in the boulevards, and one must say so loud and clear whenever necessary. Tim riley talk 14:37, 9 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

WSB[edit]

Tim, we should really get William Sterndale Bennett at least up to GA for his 2016 bicentenary, no?--Smerus (talk) 13:03, 9 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Oo-er! I'm game, but there isn't an abundance of sources. Would it be worth taking the article to peer review now, do you think? Might give us a steer on where to concentrate our efforts with GA or even, however improbably, FA, in mind. Tim riley talk 13:54, 9 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, good idea, I will do this when back in London next week (currently in Tashkent). I know WSB's g-g-g-grandson, he can probably direct me to useful sources - the family archives alas will be WP:OR.--Smerus (talk) 18:28, 9 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Excellent. I'll happily back you up with fielding any bouncers. Meanwhile I must go about getting some grandchildren so that I can tell them I once had a discussion about William Sterndale Bennett with a man in Tashkent. Tim riley talk 18:46, 9 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Done!--Smerus (talk) 10:07, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I'll do a bit of gentle drumming-up of trade. Meanwhile, coincidentally, SchroCat and I have Albert Ketèlbey up for peer review, and if you care to look in there it will be much appreciated. – Tim riley talk 18:20, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The Signpost: 09 December 2015[edit]

I'm a bit ahead of myself, and I've finished the above, although I don't propose to put it to any formal review process until January when there should be more people about with time to look at articles. But I'd welcome a few informal comments on the talk page, if you have a moment. There is also the issue of the article's title (a move has been suggested on the talk page) and I'd like your views on that, too. (I've got another little music article on the go, but rest assured, from January onwards GBS will be my primary concern). Brianboulton (talk) 21:21, 13 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Will gladly give it the once over and stick my oar in about moving it, Tim riley talk 09:00, 14 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Invitation to FAC @ Norodom Ranariddh[edit]

Dear Tim,

Good day, I would like to take this opportunity to hear from your inputs and/or your thoughts on the above article's FAC-worthiness. I understand that you are one of User:Brianboulton's close associates, and hence I felt that it is also appropriate on my part to invite you to co-appraise. I have heard from one of your associates, Wehwalt, whom I was led to understand was another associate of yours and Brian to co-appraise.

I welcome you to drop by at the FAC at any time, without pressure or obligations. See you and take care ! :) Mr Tan (talk) 10:55, 14 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'll put it on my list and look in if and when I can fit it in. Tim riley talk 11:48, 14 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Peer review[edit]

To anyone kind enough to watch this page: SchroCat, aided and abetted by me, has Albert Ketèlbey up for peer review. Visitors will be most welcome. Tim riley talk 15:40, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

And another not very well known English composer, William Sterndale Bennett, is also up for PR, where comments will be gratefully received. Tim riley talk 18:21, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

What better way to start the year than with a Tim Riley article. I've got the TFA down to 1539 characters. It needs to be around 1150, but I don't have a preference what to cut. Tis the season; would you care to do the carving? - Dank (push to talk) 19:10, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Brute! I have done the deed. I consoled myself by thinking of Dr Johnson's words: "Read over your compositions, and where ever you meet with a passage which you think is particularly fine, strike it out." Tim riley talk 19:21, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
That's good, but be careful not to do such a good job in the future ... someone might want you to do it regularly. - Dank (push to talk) 20:53, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for that, and for the day-in-day-out work of you and your colleagues in doing the front page stuff. We are in your debt. Tim riley talk 20:59, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I take all major credit cards. - Dank (push to talk) 21:23, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Precious again, your "valediction to the late John Webber, who edited WP as Viva-Verdi" and "knew a hundred times more about Verdi"

It's a great way to start a new musical year: "Tutto nel mondo è burla ... Tutti gabbati! / "Everything in the world is a jest ... ". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:35, 1 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Edit warring[edit]

Please don't edit war. On Albert Ketèlbey, your bold edit was reverted and at that point you should be heading for the talk page to discuss, not re-reverting. I'll be happy to match you revert for revert at this stage if you attempt to force your personal preferences onto the article. You are wrong, by the way, about WP:CITEVAR. Your edit removed properly sourced material, using the proper citation style for the article. Further attempts to remove good sources for spurious reasons are like to be treated as disruptive. Please take this warning in the spirit in which it is intended. --RexxS (talk) 18:32, 17 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong way round rex. Potw added this morning and it was removed. YOUR subsequent edit warring is unwarranted. – SchroCat (talk) 18:34, 17 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I do indeed take Rex's threat in the spirit in which I conceive it was intended. Tim riley talk 18:49, 17 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Merry Christmas![edit]

A very happy Christmas and New Year to you!


May 2016 bring you joy, happiness – and no trolls or vandals!

All the best

Gavin / – SchroCat (talk) 16:20, 19 December 2015 (UTC) [reply]

Season's Greetings[edit]

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To You and Yours!

FWiW Bzuk (talk) 16:45, 19 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Merry Christmas[edit]

Nothing fancy. Just a simple thank you for all your help on the Copland Connotations article and a wish for the best for you in 2016. Merry Christmas, Tim.Jonyungk (talk) 16:52, 19 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It's that time of the year[edit]

Seasonal Greetings and Good Wishes
Seasonal greetings for 2015, and best wishes for 2016. Here's to another year's productive editing, with peace, goodwill and friendship to all! Brianboulton (talk) 17:31, 19 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 16 December 2015[edit]

Merry Christmas![edit]

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

A very Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you and all your loved ones, and a joyous and prosperous 2016.

All the very best from your friends:

Cliftonian, Mrs Cliftonian and the two little Cliftonians. —  Cliftonian (talk)  20:29, 19 December 2015 (UTC) [reply]

Nadolig Llawen[edit]

Seasonal greetings[edit]

To all and sundry, near and far
F. Christmas in particular

and to everyone else who has been kind enough to send greetings I send my warm reciprocations, and to those who haven't, I send happy greetings anyway. Tim riley talk 21:08, 20 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Though[edit]

Opinions? (Stalkers?) I'm wondering if I should always use "although" in AmEng articles per COMMONALITY. - Dank (push to talk) 03:13, 22 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I can't presume to have a view on AmEng usage. In BrEng some people mistakenly think a plain "though" is inferior to "although". Chaucer, Shakespeare, Dr Johnson, Dickens, Wilde and Wodehouse did not think so, and used "though" often. This is what the new edition of Fowler says:
Though can always be used instead of although, but the reverse is not true. Though is slightly more frequent than although and somewhat less formal. ... though alone is possible as an adverb in medial or final positions: It is true, though, that one misses out... [and] in the fixed expressions, as though and even though.
If the import of your question is that at present you use "though" but wonder if commonality makes it desirable to use "although", my advice (to writers of both AmEng and BrEng) is to stick to "though" wherever it feels natural. – Tim riley talk 08:05, 22 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
That feels right to me, thanks. - Dank (push to talk) 13:38, 22 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Noël Coward[edit]

Can we please discuss my edit and your subsequent reversion on the Noël Coward talk page? Seattle Jörg (talk) 13:29, 23 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Gladly, once I am back at home with references to hand, which will be from 30 Dec onwards. Tim riley talk 13:44, 23 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Best wishes for the holidays...[edit]


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Happy Christmas![edit]

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Have a happy holiday season. May the year ahead be productive and happy. John (talk) 18:52, 24 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Decade[edit]

18Y

Thank you to all who have made editing Wikipedia rewarding and enjoyable over the past ten years. Tim riley talk 12:10, 26 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Precious again, your reaching this milestone!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:37, 26 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

New FLC[edit]

Hi Tim. I have List of Sites of Special Scientific Interest in Bedfordshire at FLC. Comments gratefully received if you have the time. Happy new year. Dudley Miles (talk) 22:34, 28 December 2015 (UTC)m[reply]

Bedfordshire? We in Cumbria know it not. But I'll be back in the metrop tomorrow from the rapidly drying ancestral Lake District shack, and will be very pleased to look in at Beds SSSIs. Tim riley talk 23:00, 28 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 30 December 2015[edit]

2016 year of the reader and peace[edit]

2016
peace bell

Thank you for inspiration and support, including two excellent GA reviews in 2015, - thanks with my review, and the peace bell by Yunshui! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:45, 31 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]