User talk:Tmajoor
Welcome to Wikipedia[edit]
Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia! I noticed your edit at Human brain. You may, perhaps, also be interested in WP:WikiProject Neuroscience. Please feel free to get in touch with me any time if you have any questions at all about editing here. --Tryptofish (talk) 19:13, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
What fringe means for us[edit]
Please read WP:FRINGE: Steiner and Anthroposophists usually write fringe publications, as Wikipedia sees it. Tgeorgescu (talk) 07:12, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you.There is a vast literature on the Two Messiahs (see Messiah ben Joseph) and on the Two Brothers (Pistis Sophia Ch.61). Secondary literature on the Two Jesuses in: Welburn 1994, Childs 2005, Nesfield-Cookson 2005, Ovason 2013. Primary literature only in German (Lauenstein 1971, Zander 2007)--Tmajoor (talk) 10:33, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
- As I told you, books by Anthroposophists or from Anthroposophical presses generally don't count as WP:RS. Tgeorgescu (talk) 11:27, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
- Then WP:CITE WP:MAINSTREAM WP:SCHOLARSHIP. You should not cite WP:FRINGE WP:SOURCES. Tgeorgescu (talk) 12:09, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
- WP:VERifying claims to WP:PRIMARY Ancient religious sources is generally banned as WP:OR. In fact, most of Steiner's work are primary religious sources, so WP:OR applies to them, too. And Goethe's scientific works were widely regarded as bad science and worthless prose, so Steiner's scholarship about Goethe is not WP:MAINSTREAM (no serious scholar wanted to be the editor of such works, such position was seen as an embarrassment). Tgeorgescu (talk) 18:14, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
- These days, western esotericism is scholarly studied as part of sociology of religion, e.g. Zander, Hanegraaff and Asprem. Also, since 2013 there is SKA, a critical edition of Steiner works in German (www.steinerkritischeausgabe.com/). As far as I know, no primary source exists on Steiner’s double-birth interpretation of the two genealogies of Jesus, so in my contribution I have cited from the Steiner works.--Tmajoor (talk) 05:39, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
- Well, I know about the study of Western Esotericism since I got 10 ECTS for it during my Bachelor at the University of Amsterdam. Hanegraaff stated upfront something like "We study a marginal phenomenon of the Western culture." Oh, yes, the information about Goethe's scientific works and Steiner's job as an editor is from Hanegraaff. Tgeorgescu (talk) 11:59, 22 June 2018 (UTC)