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I would like to carry on a discussion of Towns in Wisconsin. Towns in Wisconsin perform functions similar to Townships in most other states. And the common way to describe them is "The Town of . . "

Townships in other states are called townships, parishes in Louisiana are called Parishes, but in Wisconsin towns are called by their first names. Given the many meanings of "town" I don't think the current treatment is adequate.

I also have a real problem with putting climate date in the article for a town. At best, the county level should suffice for Wikipedia. So far, that applies only to Door County, Wisconsin, that I have seen.

Similarly, I would question the incorporation of detailed population data for a division as small as a town or township. Certainly (IMHO) there is no need for that data for, on average, a dozen, maybe more, towns per county. Is that data meaningful in a town or township with population less than 1,000? County level should suffice for that.

I would expect that our discussion might lead to more uniformity in the articles for towns and townships. I would expect that uniformity would improve inclusion of meaningful data.

I don't know how or with whom to initiate the discussion. If you pass on this query to another editor, please forward this message as it should lead to earlier meaningful discussions and decisions (I hope).

In the meaintime, I have tempered my enthusiasm for correcting all the Wisconsin Towns, and have begun to hone my thoughts in the article for the Town of Bergen in Grant County, Wisconsin.

As usual, if I had more time this would have been shorter. Topeka Sam (talk) 02:44, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

Town of X Edits

Greetings and thank you for all of your edits to Wisconsin town articles! Could change your edits from "The Town of X is a town in County Y" to "The Town of X is located in County Y." or something similar? It sounds less repetitive. -- Dolotta (talk) 16:44, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

There is a LOT of confusion about what a town" is. "My" way of doing it lets me incorporate a clarifying footnote.

I feel that the footnote is worth the redundancy. but I did adopt that language because that's the way it was stated before I changed th name of the Town. Path of least resistance, etc.

I also have used the highlighted form of the referance to town, but I think the footnote is more functional to emphasize my point.

For an example of the confusion, I just removed an entire section of the article for the Town of Lake Holcombe because it purtaned to the community of Holcombe, not the town. The language had been copied verbatim.

I hope we are working toward the same end here. It just occurred to me that I could footnote "Town" in the name of the town. Not sure how that would look, bolded and all.

I am going to Barren County to try that edit on a few towns, just to see how it works out. I'll start alphabetically, if you want to look at them.

Best,

Tom Topeka Sam (talk) 20:54, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

Email Received

Thank you for the email. As a general rule, I do not communicate via email on topics that should be shared on the site. I am well aware of the Beetown situation since I am the one who recently redirected it in the first place. It is relatively rare for an unincorporated community, like Beetown (community), Wisconsin to have much more than a 1-3 sentence article. So I have been redirecting many of the unincorporated communities with one sentence of content to the town that they are located in. It is not a municipality of any sort but I would love to see you expand the article if you can find more sourced content. -- Dolotta (talk) 21:52, 19 February 2023 (UTC)

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DO NOT Round Census Numbers

Please do not round census male/female ratios. Rounding looses some accuracy. See significant figures. -- Dolotta (talk) 21:51, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

Amherst

Why did you delete the coordinates at Amherst (town), Wisconsin? The look accurate. Magnolia677 (talk) 18:54, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

Please stop. Your edits are disruptive. Discuss your changes first and gain consensus. Thanks you. Magnolia677 (talk) 22:28, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

I do not delete coordinates for a town. Often, the coordinates of a city, unincorporated community or CDC are placed on a town, and THOSE I DO delete. The Holy Template says to show the coordinates in the title and inline, which is, IMHO, excessive for an entity which probably averages forty square miles, and I DID prune those to one set.

This is all a mystery to most, who think a town might be a village or a city, but really is much more like a township.

Tows, for instance, usually are shown with the state, in Wisconsin, but Townships in other states are not.

Not that it matters much, as some enthusiastic physical scientist has seen fit to undo dozens of hours of my work.

Consider that most subdivisions are shown with extensive (excessive) demographic data from 2000 and nearly all include the phrase "In the [city], the population was spread out . . ."(followed by the age distribution).

The future of Wikipedia (which troubled me all the while I was trying to clarify that 1,250 (give or take) towns are not villages) looks pretty bleak to me.

Aggravated by an elitist moderator structure without any capacity to start a discussion. The fella who undid my edits seems not to accept messages.

So, stick coordinates wherever you want. Personally, the most I have seen is three. Go for a record, if you will. Can't be sure, but I vaguely remember that those all were actually for the town. On average (intuitively determined - not the sort of thing I kept stats on) about 20% of towns had incorrect coordinates.

Sleep well, they apparently all were restored.

As for me, I know I couldn't have saved Funk & Wagnals, and I have no remaining stomach to try to save Wikipedia.

Enjoy it while it lasts. Topeka Sam (talk) 03:50, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

Town of .. terminology

Please write your comments here rather than on my talk. Thanks. Materialscientist (talk) 22:12, 19 March 2023 (UTC)

Concern regarding Draft:Bell Township

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Your draft article, Draft:Bell Township

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:33, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

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