User talk:Trinidadmike

California

Your inclusion of Trinidad as the first incorporated city contradicts the entire section. Please do not restore it. —kurykh 22:14, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

The City of Trinidad was the first city granted incorporation by the State of California. The other cities mentioned as the first incorporated cities were already cities when California became a State. I'm open to discussing this, but I believe your decision to remove it and ask me not to restore it is unfair and not in the spirit of the site.--TrinidadMike (talk) 23:01, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

That it was incorporated after California became a state seems little different from those incorporated before. And in going through just the letter A under List of cities in California, it shows Alameda being incorporated in 1854, four years after California became a state and sixteen years before Trinidad. In addition, the source just states the date of incorporation, not that it was the first city incorporated after California became a state. Alanraywiki (talk) 23:33, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

It is different, and it is an historic fact - whichever lovely city it is. After reviewing the list you cited, I found many "dates of incorporation" are dubious at best, with some cities claiming previous names as theirs to get earlier dates etc. Other cities have debated this monicker and the three listed (some with revoked and reinstated charters) maybe should be debated some more. Finding out the rank is not going to be a fairly easy fact to check after all. So now I am open to stating the City of Trinidad is only "one of the first" cities of California lol. I think Trinidad's other monikers (one of the smallest and the most westerly City) will hold up better, though I look forward to researching those too.

I have directed the City Clerk to find Trinidad's Charter and supporting documentation. I'll work with Trinidad's helpful Museum too. I did "learn" something though. If "California became the 31st State admitted to the United States on September 9, 1850", one of it's Cities became the first City chartered by the new State, and it wasn't any of the ones listed on the site according to your referenced list.

From the list you referred me to: If Alameda '57, Anderson '56, Arcata '58, Baldwin Park '56, Benecia '50 (nope March 1850 - 5+ mos prior to CA statehood?), Carlsbad '52, Colusa '68, Crescent City '54 [(!) they are our "oldest?" neighboring city], Eureka '56, Gilroy '70 (beat by 7+mos!), Los Angeles '50 (nope April 4 1850 - 5 mos prior to CA statehood?), Nevada City '56, Newark '55, Norwalk '57, Oakland '52, Petaluma '58, Placerville '54, Sacramento '50 (nope February 27, 1850 6+ mos prior to CA statehood?), San Bernardino '69, San Diego '50 (nope March 27, 1850 - 5+ mos prior to CA statehood?), San Francisco '50 ( nope April 15, 1850 5 mos prior to CA statehood?), San Jose '50 ( nope March 27, 1850 - 5+ mos prior to CA statehood?), San Luis Obispo '56, Santa Barbara '50 (nope April 9, 1850), Santa Clara '52, Santa Cruz '66, Santa Rosa '68, Sonora '51, Stockton '50 (nope July 23, 1850), Suisun City '68, Vallejo '68, Ventura '66, Watsonville '68, and Yreka '57, were incorporated by the State of California after it's admission, then Trinidad is 26th out of 478. What I'd like to learn is how some of these cities received incorporation months before California became a State. Seems like that list of three should be expanded to include these other 1950's cities too. Otherwise that Wikipedia date of Statehood is incorrect.

Please join me in extending a Happy Birthday Wish to Trinidad, California on November 7th - one of the oldest cities in California - lol. --TrinidadMike (talk) 22:29, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

It looks like you have quite a project there. Trinidad does look like one of the oldest cities. I'm glad that the topic came up because I was not aware of the town before and it does look beautiful. Alanraywiki (talk) 22:42, 4 November 2008 (UTC)