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Jinnah

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You can open a discussion section if you want to see if you can add that passage. visit wiki NPOV, and importance of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:RS which are http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:CITE. omerlivesOmerlives 01:54, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

so far I dont see any discussion on Jinnah on the article's talk page. That's the page for you to discuss anyting objected to in the aticle. omerlivesOmerlives

OMERLIVES: I GUESS NO ONE GIVES A HOOT ABOUT JINNAH EXCEPT FOR YOU, SO I THINK WHAT I WROTE WAS NOT NOT VANDALISM AT ALL. DONT YOU THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO TELL THE PUBLIC THAT MUSLIM LEAGUE WAS FOUNDED BY AGHA KHAN, WHO INCIDENTLY WAS MADE A PRINCE OF THE BRITISH EMPIRE FOR HELPING FIGHT THE FREEDEOM FIGHTERS IN INDIA. AND BY THE WAY HIS TITLE OF AGHA KHAN WAS RECINDED WHEN THE KING OF IRAN SENTENCED THIS MAN TO DEATH FOR HIS BELIEF THEREBY CAUSING AGHA KHAN TO RUN OF TO INDIA FROM PERSIA. HISTORY CANNOT BE REWRITTEN IT IS ALWAYS THERE. ?

TRUEBLOOD786

Please do not add nonsense to Wikipedia. It is considered vandalism. If you would like to experiment, use the sandbox. Thank you. SushiGeek 09:50, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

 HOW CAN YOU CONSIDER WHAT I WROTE VANDALISM ? 

TRUEBLOOD786


Listen, first learn to sign your name as by typing 3 or 4 tildas (~) after your nickname, so that your name is hyperlinked and i tis easier for people to comunicate with you. Secondly, learn that your opinions do not count as fact. I have an opinion about many world figures, and events which other may or maynot agree with. When you make such a fantastic claim, always use a langauge which does not reflect a rabid point of view, so first know how to use a an NPOV language. Secondly, If you make such an edit, ANY administrator or user who has contributed to the article helping to make it a "Featured article" will delete it. Go ahead try and if you keep doing the edit, you will be banned. It is not personal, though, yes, I am amused by your attitude buddy. And most importantly, if you have issues, questions, problems or want to make a major change in an article, then first discuss it in the discussion page. The discussion tab is right next to the article tab just like your use page here. SO go and open a topis there and write what and why you want to add what you want. You'll get a response or two. you'll see. omerlivesOmerlives 21:01, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


lol whatever. Omerlives 03:45, 21 June 2006 (UTC) Oh and I am not Punjabi. ciao.[reply]

Trueblood, Jinnah's religion has been mentioned along with his political predilection. He was not religious. Neither did he found Pakistan in the name of religion IMO. In any event, the info you wanted to mention was not acceptable according to wikipedia policy anyways. Omerlives BTW you dont need to write your name everytime. Just put tildas thrice or 4 times if you also want to mention the time and date you made the entry. Omerlives 06:27, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Tribes?

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You wrote on my talk page: "I checked into the Sudhan tribe and the Sadozai, there is no consenses if they are the same tribe therefore I suggest that Sudhan should be kept as a separate article rather than Sadozai. Can you comment, I will get the information including the citations to fix the article."

I have no idea what you are talking about. Maurreen 18:50, 24 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

lower the caps

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It is considered impolite to write with your caps lock on. It comes across as brash, impolite and loud. Other than that you have your right to your opinion regarding Pakistan, Pakistanis, Islam, Jinnah, Israel, Hindus and so forth. I just don't agree with you. Omerlives 19:57, 24 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Poonch

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I suppose you were the one who left that message on my Talk page.

Bhai,

When did I say that Jehlum is in Poonch? When did I say that Alexander came to Poonch? (Read what I wrote carefully.) And regarding the Punjabis, you must know that when Poonch was annexed by Runjeet Singh, and later when it was given to Raja Moti Singh, many Punjabis were brought here. My family is one of them.

I know the facts I need to know. I started this page and someone redirects the Poonch(Rawalakot) page to this one and edits as per his/her likings!? If that was you and you want to write some thing about the history and developments of AJK's Poonch, you are free to do that, provided that you do it at the right place.

Regards.

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Hi, I noticed an article that you have helped to create called Sudhun. Can you provide any sources of information about this group? From the article, I am having a difficult time understanding what it is supposed to be about and most of the references to "Sudhun" that I find when performing a web search are either links to this article or are somebody's last name. Please note that Wikipedia content should be verifiable. In other words, you should give reliable sources for information that you add to articles. Thank you. --BigDT 03:21, 8 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If you read the last part of the article it has about 20 references about the tribe. it is a tribe in Kashmir with about 500,000 members. Its members are also listed. I hope this helps. trueblood 03:23, 8 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The "references" section mentions several people who were or are members of this tribe. None of the four "external links" seem to be related to this tribe. When an article cites its sources, or references, this means that you should give the websites, books, newspapers, magazines, etc, from which you obtained the information given in the article. Where did the information in the article come from? Do you have a website that I could visit that would give me information about this tribe? Thanks. --BigDT 03:28, 8 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]


You can get the article about this tribe from :Modern academic studies that mention the Sudhans include Alexander Evans's 2005 article in Asian Affairs: http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/routledg/raaf/2005/00000036/00000001/art00003

Also the Official government of Azad Kashmir website has references to this tribes district it is called Sudnuti. Also see Poonch. thanks

trueblood 03:31, 8 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Also see http://www.saag.org/papers3/paper286.html

the references are to Gen Aziz who was a General in Pak Army and is a member of the tribe. By the way I am also member of this tribe. So believe me it is not a hoax.

Quote from the article on above web site: After a series of consultations with the National Security Council (NSC), some of his Corps Commanders and his kitchen Cabinet, Gen. Musharraf has reportedly decided to send Major Gen Mohammad Anwar Khan, who belongs to the powerful Sudhan tribe and is a resident of Tain village in district Poonch, which is also the home village of the Pakistan-Occupied Kashmir (POK) Legislative Assembly Speaker Sardar Siab Khalid, to Muzaffarabad to be "elected" on August 1 as the so-called President of the POK on the ticket of the Muslim Conference allied to the Pakistan Muslim League (PML) of Nawaz Sharif, now living in exile in Saudi Arabia.

Ok ... thank you ... you have helped to allay my concerns. I would strongly suggest cleaning the article up some. Also, with respect to the pictures, in general, unless there is something important about all of the people depicted, the article probably doesn't need that many pictures. Thank you. --BigDT 03:40, 8 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Your help is appreciated. Will keep in mind

trueblood 03:41, 8 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I also created a new articel Islamic Cults maybe you can look at it also ?

trueblood 03:45, 8 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

reply

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look at why he was blocked, you'll see.--Urthogie 02:37, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This is linked from the block message.--Urthogie 04:17, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

RE: Help

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Unfortunately I am not familiar with this term. I have a friend from Pakistan that I may be able to ask one of these days. Depending if she is not too busy with college and checks her email. If not, my apologies for not being to help.¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk) 04:13, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Again, I must apologize but I really am not familiar with Islam unfortunately. I'm too Californianized for my own good. However as far as Persian culture, I might be able to help a bit more. But in regards to practicing the Muslim faith, I do not possess a strong enough knowledge of it.¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk) 04:18, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Help

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Can you please help on the following by entering the dicussion.

Aga Khani Islamic Cults

In India and Pakistan the followers of Aga Khan are known as Aga Khani so I need you help on this, secondly as in India where Rajneesh had a cult there are many Islamic cults and I need your help on that as well.

Can you join in the discussion

trueblood 04:34, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nice meeting you. I also thank you for your message. I have heard about Aga Khani and have read some articles about him but I do not have deep understanding of the matter you are talking about. I think you may please contact some other editor who may be knowledgeable about this matter. Regards. --Bhadani 05:06, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah here in Pakistan(sepcially Karachi) ,many Agha Khani live.i have friend he is Agha Khani (some times some ppls use Ismali term for them i do nt knw why). Aghan Hosptial staff are 99% aghani khani.

Khalidkhoso 06:16, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]


check i have written more sects in Islamic Cults.

I've just tried to make the article more NPOV (at least at the intro). A lot of work should be done and bringing reliable sources is necessary. -- Szvest - Wiki me up ® 10:04, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Hi. Ref. your note: the term Aga Khani literally means of Aga Khan. A rough translation would be Followers of Aga Khan. Though I don't konw much about the sect, you can rest assured that it exists. The other term used to describe the members of the sect is Ismaili. I am not sure if Aga Khani sect is an offshoot/part of Ismaili sect or not. Sorry for not beung much help. I'll post more if I find more about it. Mahalo --Vikas Kumar Ojha Talk to me! 16:32, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. ref. your note, I have updated the above comment with a confirmation from one of my muslim friends and posted it on the Afd discussion page. I would suggest you to expand the article a little and search a few more reliable sources/citations on web. I personally do not have an opinion so would like to remain nuetral. Let me know if you need any help. Mahalo! --Vikas Kumar Ojha Talk to me! 23:14, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Hi. Sorry for the late response. This is ref. your note about putting my comments on preloaded discussion page. If you mean the Afd discussion page, I put my comments there. If you mean the article discussion (talk) page, wide this edit someone already pasted my comment there. Thanks! --Vikas Kumar Ojha Talk to me! 07:15, 14 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Discussion of Islamic Cults

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I am willing to discuss this issue with, but I am swamped right now with a real life project. I hope to be back on Wikipedia by the 15th. Sorry, and good luck. -Eliyahu S Talk 21:02, 13 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sudhun

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Hi there, thank you for your message. Unfortunately, this is a recurrent theme here on wikipedia. With so many contributers with their opinions etc. it is hard to get the job done. Only an admin can block a user or lock a page. Here is the best process to follow in preparation to inviting an admin.

1. Invite the discussion on the discussion board and invite all users for it.
2. Offer your opinion and state your case with referenced sources and distinguish your opinions from these sources (opinions are not allowed in an encyclopedia. But if they are reflective of a cited reference from any publication or literary source, then by all means include it with a footnote etc)
3. Set up a disputed tag (I will try and set this up for you) and invite wiki admins through arbcom to come and help mediate this matter, as long as all parties are amicable and respectful.
4. Stay focussed and committed. Don't lose hope and don't get pulled into futile arguments and personal abuse, as it will either stress you out more or get you banned. Worst of all, the Sudhun article will still remain unfinished.

Hope that helps. Good luck True Blood786.--Raja 16:44, 23 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]


sock puppets

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I have invited the user Sudozai to discuss the issue as he doesn't appear to be a sockpuppet.

The other user Sadozai Khan is clearly the Leeds sock puppet and only appeared on the scene after I retorted his points (very typical of him to try and evade detection). He has been warned and put up on to the sock puppet account. Now go ahead and make the changes on the article that will incorporate all views in a neutral and healthy way. Hope that helps.--Raja 11:58, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Reference tags

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I have replied to your question on the Sudhun talk page under the Reference tags header. It's simple, but you mjust always add the full info of the source you quote, i.e. The name of the book, the author, year of Publish, Publish house and copyright date, and the page numbers.

Type in < ref > at the beginning of your reference and at the end of it you would type < / Ref >

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The Sudhans are a Brahmin tribe < ref > The name of the book, author, date of copyright and publishing house, page number < / ref >

Important: remove the spaces between the ref templates otherwise it wont work. I have added spaces in between the arrows because the system wont allow me to show you otherwise. Try it a few times, you will definitely get used to it.--Raja 14:31, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]



Local info re Sudhun

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I have got in touch with some of the elders and their contacts in Rawalpindi, Kahuta who know Sudhans very well from there.

I can now see your frustration. All the elders were unanimous that the Sudhuns, althoguh quite a respectable and military tribe also, are definitely not Pathan at all, neither have they heard of such an assertion has been made by them. They say that the Sudhan titles are Sardar, whilst some very remotely also call themselves Raja and claim a Rajput ancestry (consist with your claims re Glossary of Tribes etc)

Another point here is a very interesting one also. Apparently Sudhans are well established near them in Rawalpindi and hold some decent land. This would be very strange for them to be this well established in such a short period within the Sadozai conquer of the area and the subsequent Sikh empire ovethrow. Logistically and plausibility would be against the Pathan origin point. The Sudhans of Rawalpindi have extensive relations with Kashmir which would make sense that they are one and the same tribe as we are discussing here.

I have the Rawalpindi Gazzetteer with me and I will check it up for you for any references to do with your tribe in there.

In the meantime, keep up the work.--Raja 20:04, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Thanks

trueblood 05:17, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Shaukat Aziz

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You wrote the following phrase: "Thus Mr. Aziz was nothing but a local office manager and later money laundering kingpin laundering money for corrupt officials form third world countries." How is that not a POV statement? PBP 03:27, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Okay I agree with you on that but the rest was no POV, dont you agree.

trueblood 03:53, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Stop adding rhetorical nonsense to the Pakistan Army article. If you continue to do this, your account will be frozen and you will be banned. Mercenary2k 04:15, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If you wanna go for the mediator. Go for it. But with your checkered history of vandalism, you dont have a good chance of your rhetoric becoming part of wikipedia. Mercenary2k 04:24, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]


All of what I wrote about the ISI is backed by facts and properly cited. Just what exactly is in dispute? please tell me. don't make grandiose statements. I can obviously tell you are someone who hates Pakistan. Wikipedia is not a place to vent out rage and frustration. If you wanna do that against Pakistan, I suggest you go start a blog.Mercenary2k 04:29, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Pakistan Army

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Hi Trueblood,

As always, I suggest that you work with the people you have trouble with, try and reach a consensus. I dont have much time right now, but I will Inshallah try my best for you guys to calm and talk in agreement, with peaceful debate. Remember, we all read the same Qalima guys, let's be neutral and informative. This is an encyclopedia, but not the be all and end all of all things knowledge.

I suggest you open the debate on the discussion page and we'll take things from there.--Raja 00:06, 23 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Stop It

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Look, stop editing the Pakistan Army page repeatedly to insert negative and incorrect information. The PA did not lose 7000 men in the Kargil conflict, and even though the real figure is much, much lower, it is still not conclusively known. Therefore, it is best to omit mention of the casualty count in the main PA article. If you have a look at the US Army page, you will realize that it does not list the casualty count of the American soldiers for wars they fought in the main article, and I'd like to keep the same format for the Pakistan Army article.

And why are you so bent upon posting pictures of captured Pakistani troops and the surrender photograph on the PA page? I have pictures of captured Indian troops from the various wars, I don't go around pasting them on the Indian Army page, so please STOP. Stop your attempts to besmirch the Pakistan Army. Nobody will let you put up a picture of an American humvee being blown to bits in Iraq by an IED on the US Army page, and we don't want you to post pictures displaying Indian victories on our Army's page. The German army article dosen't have pictures of Wehrmact soldiers lying dead on the streets of Berlin. Get my point? Zaindy87 18:02, 23 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]


I must agree on this point. In fact, I am quite surprised at what I am reading trueblood. I did my best for your Sudhan article in light of the vandalism on there, and you appeared quite capable most of that duration, to work with the scope of wiki in this respect. I request that the same consideration be given here.
Before you reply, my reasons for believing the above points by Zaindy are that I can see you have not added any info other than negative info regarding the subject. Surely the sources you have consulted must have some balanced info? You can argue POV etc, but the behaviour is indicative of POV. Also some of your comments towards Pakistanis being referred to as Pakis (and that it is the acceptable norm in US) is also surprising, especially in the sense that Bush's aide retracted the point and never tried justifying it. Also personal uncited info regarding people on wiki is liable to legal action wiki and also in bad taste for it's repute. Whatever your feelings towards your neighbouring nation, have some respect for your fellow Musalmaans from there and try to be a little more civil.
I dont want to go further into the sock puppetry route (I trust you understand what I mean, without making further points and others understanding), so let's have a fresh beginning and try to work together. Especially as the personal interest to you, no doubt, would be that many Sudhan's are actually soldiers and high ranking officers of the Pakistan Army also. Hence if pedantic reasoning is to be applied, then this info should also be included. (Like I said, let's not go there, and instead work together in civility).
I apologise if I said something to hurt you lil bro, I just dont want to see a decent user make mistakes and get caught up in a mess. It can be a pain on wiki sometimes, trust me I know. I dont believe in just telling friends where they are right, I also believe in being a critical friend too. If you understand what I have said, and respect it, you will value friendships all the more bro.--Raja 23:32, 23 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image of ISI HQ

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You sure thats the image of the parliament building?

This is the site where I got it from....

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/entity.jsp?entity=pakistan_directorate_for_inter-services_intelligence

Mercenary2k 19:09, 23 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ok man ok. I beleive you. Thats why I have not re-instered the image. Mercenary2k 03:34, 24 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

About user

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The user, Zaindy has already been uploading multiple copyvio images and falsely tagging it as fair use and believe it or not even CC. Im therefore requesting all his photos be deleted and the user be banned for violating WP copyrights policy including falsification of tags. Idleguy 04:14, 24 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Can you kindly provide with his other usernames which are suspected to be his? It would help a lot. Thanks Idleguy 05:09, 24 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Cisco Utah

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Emergy Telecom is the rural phone company that serves Greenriver, Utah, Price Utah and Cisco. So before you make allegations check the phone book.

see the website http://www.etv.net/

trueblood 05:16, 26 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Except for the website you link is for "Emery Telcom" (no G). Emergy Telcom, which you insist in linking to Cisco does not exist 75.141.208.84 07:35, 26 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Had you properly sourced the article, then this wouldn't have happened, I would have discovered the mispelling and fixed it myself. When there are no sources, I'm left alone with my search engine, and sometimes that doesn't always arrive at the right answer. But while we're at it, you're going to need to do a far better job of sourcing the article. I cannot find any sources confirming that Wayne Stout and Tariq Imran Ahmad own the town. I cannot find any sources that prove that Emery Telecom put a T1 line into Cisco, and that they would soon be providing high speed internet. You say that the well in town is Gibraltar No. 1, but the government thinks that the name is "Gibralter" [1] (page 10). Thats not to say that all this isn't true, and that there are plenty of sources to support it, its just that I can't find any. I'm going to add fact tags to these items in the article, but if they're not taken care of in a reasonable amount of time, then likely somebody will remove them. Thank you. - CosmicPenguin (Talk) 13:56, 26 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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I have read that article and many article discussing that.Although i do not doubt the cabaility of ISI to indulge in such low level activities we should quote "exactly"what the article says. No.1.The article does not mention oath under PCO,it is all about the decision on Musharraf's uniform,seocndly the language used in the article can be a guideline to what is posted.Secondly the article mentions no sources,it might be or might not be accruate.No.3.It mentions no name,so if you put it on dogar's page you should mention the reason it is there.. [[2]]

Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry

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Re:Pacific Energy and Mining

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Unfortunately, the article was only four sentences long and did not assert notability. I checked the article's history to see when it was created before I deleted it (it had been eight hours with no updates). You are welcome to re-create it with a minimum assertion of notability. ... discospinster talk 15:13, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

To be frank, the article does come off as a bit advert-y (e.g. "Ever wonder how you would handle an "ethical" situation?...") Furthermore, the tag that User:RayAYang has added is only a notice to let editors know that the article needs independent sources (that is, from somewhere other than the SPE's own site. So his adding the tag is not really vandalism.

What you should do is find some substantial mentions of the programme in other sources (not just passing mentions). And don't worry if someone puts a maintenance tag on the article; it's not to denigrate the article, just to get others to help in writing it. Regards, ... discospinster talk 22:39, 13 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Thanks for letting me know of this situation. The offending edit was made on June 30; I don't think it would make a difference to block him/her now, as the IP is probably being used by someone else now. Semi-protecting the article so that only logged-in users can edit would be undertaken only if the article was subjected to continuous IP vandalism. So at this point I'm afraid there's not much that can be done. I will place the article on my watch list and keep an eye on the IP. ... discospinster talk 03:46, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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I was referring to [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], [8], and [9] - all unsourced. [10]'s source, (correct URL) doesn't mention Dogar. -- Jeandré, 2008-08-19t12:36z
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No problem. The nice thing about this site is that you don't need to create a placeholder. I'm looking forward to seeing the new article! Regards, --PMDrive1061 (talk) 02:38, 4 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you for your note, I however put the wrong license, this material was created by me and posted my me, can you please put it back on and give it the free license. Please reply on my page.

EagleEye (talk) 20:44, 4 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I was totally confused by this history. As I see it...
  1. It's a photo of a photograph - shown by the colours and the rounded corners in first upload.
  2. Name is "File:2006-06-23-2035-35 edited.jpg" and text "Photograph Ghulam Ahmad. Photo by Tariq Ahmad" added by yourself when you uploaded the image. Title agrees with upload date.
  3. Then In IP wanders in and we get "Photograph Ghulam Ahmad. Photo by Dr. Khalida Yasmin"
  4. An editor asks for cropping and changes the text to "Photograph of Ghulam Ahmad. Photo by Dr. Khalida Yasmin"
  5. An Editor crops the picture
  6. Another one renames it to File:Ghulam Ahmad by Khalida Yasmin.jpg
  7. I arrived to move the image to commons (as all free images are moving) and see no relationshop between any of the names, and know if I moved it to commons it wouldn't last 10 minutes.
So was the original photo taken by Tariq Ahmad, Khalida Yasmin, or User:Trueblood786? And what is the approximate date? I don't care who took the picture of the picture - it's not relevant in copyrght law - copyright cannot be removed from the original image by taking a subsequent photo of it - we need to know who owns the copyright (if any) now.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 22:23, 4 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry about the confusion, the photo was taken by Trueblood. And I gave the permission,please reply to my page EagleEye (talk) 22:52, 4 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
It's still not clear - you are Trueblood, did you give yourself permission??? And did you take the original?  Ronhjones  (Talk) 22:55, 4 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Yes I am trueblood, Thanks
You are still not answering the question Who took the original photograph and when?. We cannot restore a photograph of an old photo with the correct information.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 01:15, 5 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I took the photograph in 1979 in Pakistan. I will appreciate if you would have told me where you put the photo, so I could have given given the proper license, as I have not been on Wikpedia for a while, I probably did not see the message if you had sent one EagleEye (talk) 05:11, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
It's deleted, you can't see it (I can). I will sort it out now - you can now find it tidied up at File:Ghulam Ahmad.JPG.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 13:14, 5 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sardar Muhammad Yaqoob Khan

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You have also deleted Sardar Muhammad Yaqoob Khan from notable people's section of Rawalakot giving the reason that he is from Bagh? I must say your knowledge is very poor and you made a poor judgement by removing his name. He is from Ali Sojal, look at this source http://www.ajk.gov.pk/. You also accused me of deleting material from rawalakot page, would you like to point me out the part I deleted except some junk kind of advertisement I cleaned. You also said you are developing this page, I can see the quality of this page. I am from the same district and literally know everyone in azad kashmir. If you have spare time, kindly make this page look good by trying to improve language and different sections. I am developing the page Tatrinote you can look at the quality of both pages though I need lot more to do on that page. Thanksriz 13:50, 12 February 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Riztech (talkcontribs)

Nomination of Daily Dharti Rawalakot for deletion

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Also see Ghulam Ahmad and Rawalakot Jim1138 (talk) 18:30, 12 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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I would say, IMO, that the article on Ghulam Ahmad meets Wikipedia:Notability. You might want to check the references as some of them are dead. The tags (factual accuracy) and (involvement of relative) probably should stay for now. Thank you Jim1138 (talk) 19:38, 12 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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A barnstar for you!

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The Barnstar of Diligence
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February 2012

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This is the only warning you will receive. Your recent vandalism, as you did to Rawalakot, will not be tolerated. Although vandalizing articles on occasions that are days or weeks apart from each other sometimes prevents editors from being blocked, your continued vandalism constitutes a long term pattern of abuse. The next time you vandalize a page, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia without further notice. Your recent disruptive edits in notable person's section of Rawalakot page constitute act of vandalism. As explained earlier Ghulam Ahmad do not meet the standards of notable person and it would be naive to add him again and again and disrupt the page. riz 04:00, 13 February 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Riztech (talkcontribs)


You are not an adminstrator so stop threatening

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World war II fighter pilot

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The item that I find most interesting about Ghulam Ahmad. It seems unusual to have been a WWII fighter pilot. IMHO, I find that more notable than being president of some state. Is there more information on his service? BTW: would you please sign your talk with four tildes ~~~~? It is hard to reply if you don't. Thanks Jim1138 (talk) 20:53, 13 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The fact that Ghulam Ahmad's name was added yesterday by Trueblood786 on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No._1_Squadron,_Indian_Air_Force in "Burma campaign" section which I pointed out earlier, does not even cohere with rest of the paragraphs (although Trueblood786 made an effort again) and an image "Ground Subject Cup RIAF" which was basically awarded to ground staff of airforce, tells how credible this page is. This could further be substanciated by him joing Forest Services after the worldwar II when there was severe shortage of technical people in India especially after the partition of Inid/pakistan. As climed on his wiki page, he migrated to Pakistan after partition and joined "Forest Services", it is hard to believe a fighter pilot will leave his position and join forest services especially when new born pakistan was severely short of pilots. I therefore, recommend the editing of this section to enable the wikipedia viewers to read true histroy. riz 05:27, 15 February 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Riztech (talkcontribs)

Hi brother!

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We are long lost brothers! the proof Cheers, Bro! Jim1138 (talk) 09:33, 14 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Brother

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Nice to meet you brother. We should thank Riztech for making our family whole again.

EagleEye 15:47, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Ghulam Ahmad

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Are you using multiple ids on wikipedia? Who are you really? Just found out by Jim1138 that EagleEye and Trueblood786 are same person using two ids on wikipedia. So you Trueblood786, were playing game. I was commenting on Ghulam Ahmad and from no where you were jumping in, accusing me to edit your work and I was confused asking myself where did this person come from.

I have a question for Jim1138 as well, is there anyway to check the gender of a wiki member here, how do you know "he is she"?

Trueblood786 is from colorado as per his information on his user profile page, somehow Ghulam Ahmad is also linked with colorado, doing ph.d there, so it is evident Trueblood786 is Ghulam Ahmad's sibling and most of the contributions on his page are from her which do not reflect truth and neutrality especially the section "Philanthropy" where it sates as I quote "He gave scholarships for education of residents of Poonch District, particularly members of the Sudhan tribe, resulting in hundreds of graduates in engineering and medicine", can someone give me names and contact details of 5 students whom he gave scholarships and they became doctors and engineers? (obviously doctors will have their name on PMDC and engineers on PEC) I can provide you direct contact numbers of Legislative Assemby Members from Rawalakot area including president of Azad Kashmir. As claimed by page writer if Ghulam Ahmad gave hundreds of scholarships resulting hundreds of medical doctors and engineers, everyone including president of Azad Kashmir (as they are from same area) will vouch for him. What do you say EagleEye or Trueblood786?.

And who should be banned from wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Riztech (talkcontribs) 05:08, 15 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Hey man you can an ID and a psynomyn, so Trueblood is the ID and Eagle is the psynomn, so I am not sure what you are gettting at. Why dont you do that and maybe give me your name and phone number and we can talk. Why are you taking all this so personally. First you state that myself and Jim are brothers, and now you are all upset. Take it easy. BTW I do know Yaqub and maybe you can call him if you know him and ask him about Ghulam Ahmad. Good luck

BTW I did not add the section on the schlorships, so I cannot comment on that, all I can say is that I know for a fact that scholorships have been given. In fact if you were to study the history of the area you would realize, that Sardar Ibrahim, Ghulam Ahmad, General Rahim, Col. Tasadaq all went to school togeather in Poonch as that was the only school. In fact Poonch area produced a lot of good people, including the above, in addition the elder brother of General Rahim was the Secretary of Forests in Pakistan along with Ghulam Ahmad who was Chief Conservator of Forests. It has been due to the efforts of these people that young men like you have been educated and can debate. I am really glad that you are asking questions, because you should never take anything for granted. But as you said you should call Yaqoub or Sardar Qayum, they will verify this. Sardar Qayum is the same age, however Yaqoub is much younger, he would not know anything about pre partition, however he does know Ghulam Ahmad and his sons.

Thanks for your comments

EagleEye 16:14, 15 February 2012 (UTC)


EagleEye (talk) 17:22, 15 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Got your point on signing with different nick, I must admit, I did not know this and I was confused with Trueblood786 and EagleEye. Coming back to the point of Jim and you (brother), since he was insisting to add Ghulam Ahmad in notable section and the way he was arguing without giving any reason to add his name there I had this impression. whether it was misjudgement or I oversighted facts, I accept my responsibility on this part and won't insist again for that relation.

Re scholarships: whoever put that information of hundreds of scholarships, you would agree that it was simply exaggeration so it must be corrected. I am sure Ghulam Ahmad had done nice things in life and he would not want (if alive) to be linked with such claims. There are lot of poor students in Rawalakot and it would be nice to help them. Nothing personal here but look at your posts, twice you suggested to ban me, and reason was why I edited notable section. I know almost all prominent people of poonch but all of them are not notable and should not be in that section. I am sure sardar qayum and sardar yagoob know Ghulam Ahmad but my point here was for the number of scholarships someone claimed on his page. I added Sardar yaqoob's name as notable person (which he qualifies as ex pm and know president of AJK), while you took his name off, I accept it due to the reason that he is from ali sojal which is a bit far from rawalakot. I was initially considering Rawalakot page as district headquarter but now since its boundaries are set as a town, I have no objection erasing names of yaqoob, general aziz etc. Glad you made a right decision.

Again nothing personal, probably reason we argue most is due to two three different talk pages, I put something on one page (may be lenient views) but when see hard view on other page, reply there. Same is with you, on one page you give lenient views and on other you suggest to ban me. So better to stick to one talk page and we can come up to a concensus. Thanks. riz 09:25, 16 February 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Riztech (talkcontribs)

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Information icon Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. You appear to be engaged in an edit war with one or more editors according to your reverts at Sudhan. Although repeatedly reverting or undoing another editor's contributions may seem necessary to protect your preferred version of a page, on Wikipedia this is usually seen as obstructing the normal editing process, and often creates animosity between editors. Instead of edit warring, please discuss the situation with the editor(s) involved and try to reach a consensus on the talk page.

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Nomination of Daily Dharti Rawalakot for deletion

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Daily Dharti AJK is the only newspaper published in Rawalakot, this area has a population of over 50000 so if a US news paper in Fort Collins is notable why wont this paper

Trueblood (talk) 01:28, 28 February 2014 (UTC) Trueblood (talk) 02:02, 28 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Trueblood786 (block logactive blocksglobal blockscontribsdeleted contribsfilter logcreation logchange block settingsunblockcheckuser (log))


Request reason:

I understand that I was blocked for using language which was not civil and for calling the two editors names, and i agree that wont happen. I apologize. Over the last couple of years, everytime I have visited this article, I have left comments for discussion, however, the two editors here have disagreed with the news paper articles and websites and objected to both. I think that is unfair, Indian news papers concerning sudhans are independent, especially as they have nothing to do with this tribe. So if independent news sources are not reliable than what is reliable, only something written in NYT. Finally, as I said I wont make personal attacks, and will help in making this a better article. I do take issue with the fact that some editor put this as an indian and Pakistan page, which it is not, it is about a tribe in Kashmir which is probably from Afghanistan. That section should be removed. As I said I will strive to make this a better article with sources which are verifiable. Also the reference to having sudhans look at an article which refers to them is only fair. All I did was contact there organization and ask them to look at what is being written about them, that is only fair. I will appreciate if I am unblocked Trueblood (talk) 01:03, 1 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

While there's progress being made here, the personal attacks were only part of why you were blocked. The other half was threatening meatpuppetry, and you clearly still don't understand how that's a problem. "Contacting [an] organization" to "look at what is being written", when it's clear you expect the organization's members to edit the article to reflect The Truth, is still recruiting editors to edit an article in a particular fashion, and that is meatpuppetry. The Bushranger One ping only 01:37, 1 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]


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Trueblood, I recommend you read Wikipedia:Guide to appealing blocks before requesting to be unblocked again. You must acknowledge what you did that was incorrect, take responsibility for your actions and demonstrate that you will not repeat this same behavior. Blaming other editors or going off on tangents about content issues (why this article is an exception to the rules) will result in your appeal being denied. This block isn't about what other editors have done or what this article says or doesn't say, it's about you. Your behavior should be the only subject you talk about in a block appeal. Liz Read! Talk! 01:46, 1 March 2014 (UTC) I admit what I did was improper. and it wont happen again. Trueblood (talk) 02:32, 1 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Request reason:

I have read the policy for appealing a block. I admit that I my behavior was wrong, and take full responsibility for my actions, I was completely wrong when I used racial epithets and said that I will ask Sudhans to review the site, that was uncalled for. I will not do this again. Trueblood (talk) 17:10, 1 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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I've spoken with the blocking administrator, and she does not object to my unblocking you. You have explained that you understand what you did was wrong, and will not repeat the actions. If you do, you can and will be reblocked, and if you are blocked again it is unlikely that you will find an administrator willing to trust you enough to unblock you again. Show the community that you mean what you've said in your unblock appeals. -- Atama 22:44, 3 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I think that your unblock request is compelling here, which is why I haven't declined it. What I'd like to know, though, is not just what you won't do if unblocked, but what you will do if unblocked. You can answer below me, thank you. Please try to be specific in your answer. -- Atama 19:14, 1 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for taking the time to read my request, I will edit articles that I personally have knowledge about and quote independent verifiable sources. I won't get into arguments which waste everyone's time. I will be productive. I will be unbiased

Trueblood (talk) 22:52, 1 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I haven't gotten around to discussing this with Bishonen yet (I would not unblock before that, at the very least). I think that the above was addressed by the following statements:
  • "I understand that I was blocked for using language which was not civil and for calling the two editors names, and i agree that wont happen. I apologize."
  • "I admit that I my behavior was wrong, and take full responsibility for my actions, I was completely wrong when I used racial epithets and said that I will ask Sudhans to review the site, that was uncalled for."
So, an acknowledgement of "using language that was not civil", and "calling the two editors names", and "racial epithets" addresses the racist remarks and personal attacks. Saying "said that I will ask Sudhans to review the site, that was uncalled for" addresses the meatpuppetry threat. -- Atama 20:05, 3 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Ah--I just looked at the currently open request. Thanks for setting me straight, Atama. Drmies (talk) 22:49, 3 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
No worries Drmies. Oddly enough, I'm still working to clean up SPI (which is finally looking manageable) and came across this SPI case. I wish that the SPI template had been added to this talk page so that I'd have been aware, I probably would have held off on unblocking pending CU results. As it is, I'm watching that page to see what happens. At the very least, Trueblood786 is free to respond there. I'm going to actually add the SPI template on this page in a new section so that they're aware. -- Atama 22:53, 3 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Your use of multiple Wikipedia accounts

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Hi. An editor has opened an investigation into sockpuppetry by you. Sockpuppetry is the use of more than one Wikipedia account in a manner that contravenes community policy. The investigation is being held at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Trueblood786, where the editor who opened the investigation has presented their evidence. Please make sure you make yourself familiar with the guide to responding to investigations, and then feel free to offer your own evidence or to submit comments that you wish to be considered by the Wikipedia administrator who decides the result of the investigation. If you have been using multiple accounts (in a manner contrary to Wikipedia policy), please go to the investigation page and verify that now. Leniency is usually shown to those who promise not to do so again, or who did so unwittingly, but the abuse of multiple accounts is taken very seriously by the Wikipedia community. Atama 22:56, 3 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I have nothing to do with this whole issue, I had apologized and I don't know what else to do. If others in the office sign up for Wikipedia, I would think that is a good thing. Again, I have done nothing to deserve these accusations, I have made no changes and clearly I have apologized.

Trueblood (talk) 18:42, 4 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

They did. Checkuser has technically tied you to one of the accounts that was used to support you, and to another account that was recently created but has not edited yet. Your apologies are meaningless if they are dishonest. I'm blocking you indefinitely, and blocking your sockpuppets as well. -- Atama 18:56, 4 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I have nothing to do with Adnan1216, the other user is a co-worker. So I am not sure why I am blocked again, I have made no changes as I was blocked. I again apologize, and request that I be unblocked.

Trueblood (talk) 19:03, 4 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The evidence that these are all you is beyond convincing. NativeForeigner Talk 19:07, 4 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I will appreciate if you would provide me the evidence that Adnan1216 is a sock puppet.

Trueblood (talk) 19:12, 4 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

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Request reason:

reason I have apologized, I apologize again, I am not sure what evidence is being used for Adnan1216. I will appreciate if you would reconsider your block. Trueblood (talk) 19:10, 4 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

"Technical evidence" usually means you were editing from the same IP, IP range, or a variety of other data that Checkusers (but no one else) can see. In other words, you've been caught red-handed. OhNoitsJamie Talk 21:45, 4 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]


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I'd appreciate it if a fellow CU would review the block, but I'm quite certain with my findings. NativeForeigner Talk 20:41, 4 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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