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November 2011

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You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for posting an apparently racist rant and a threat to kill people, as you did at Talk:Khazars. If we have misunderstood you, please explain yourself. If you would like to be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding the text {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. Elen of the Roads (talk) 00:07, 16 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Turmerick (block logactive blocksglobal blockscontribsdeleted contribsfilter logcreation logchange block settingsunblockcheckuser (log))


Request reason:

It was not a racist rant she is a liar, it was an anti-racist remark taken out of context on purpose, that Elen of the Roads purposely overreacted to . Again it was anti-racist!!!!!!!!!! My remark on the talk page of Kazars was "there were Greek people in the Khazar Empire therefor all Greeks are related Khazars and we must kill them" I was obviously in a TALK PAGE not the main page, trying to show the insanity of using books named 'The Jews The World's Foremost Problem' as a historically accurate source. The administrators like Elen were defending as acurrate (I have since won and the page NOW says those books are anti-semitic) and I quote from the source 'Jews are Mongoloid... and Kazaraian who rule the world" that is not an historical source! Elen of the Roads thought I was 'racist' for pointing that out by saying "there were Greek people in the Khazar Empire therefor all Greeks are related Khazars and we must kill them" (Imeant to say 'sic' at the end, on the talk page! I never ever wrote anything else even remotely 'racist' in my editting!!!! or putting the Jews on Racial trial as they have been for a while. I THINK ELEN OF THE ROADS SHOULD NOT BE AN ADMINISTRATOR! and I definitely should not have been blocked again I have no antigreek thoughts in my entire life that's a joke, and the context was a obvious, and as idiots like Mrs. Roads would have said if the same thing were written but in reality not as I wrote it about Jews they are not a race anyway. I WAS FIGHTING RACISM, on a page that had racism in the TALK section again there is no mentioning of Greeks on the page this is a joke a page quoting racist sources agreed by everyone to be racist I was fight ing it and got accused of racism by somebody who should NOT BE AN ADMINISTRATOR.

Decline reason:

If your comment was taken out of context and misinterpreted, then surely you can calmly explain that without resorting to personal attacks against the admin who blocked you! Parody, sarcasm, and similar devices often do not work well in the pure text medium of talk pages, as we do not have the usual visual clues and body language to guide us. I can see how your comment (with the "sic" missing) could be seen as a racist attack, and even if not intended that way, it was at the very least a careless way to make your point. So rather than exploding on the person who saw it as such, I think you need to reflect on your own failure to make yourself clear. So step back a bit, calm down, and try to see your comment as other people would have seen it - and then come back and request unblock again without the anger! -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 10:12, 7 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]


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This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Turmerick (block logactive blocksglobal blockscontribsdeleted contribsfilter logcreation logchange block settingsunblockcheckuser (log))


Request reason:

Sorry for my anger! I had an angry tone, because I was blocked for months for doing nothing wrong. Again there was nothing racist about my remarks in their context (conversation). I felt the page was racist and forgot to put a 'sic' that i had originally intended. I wrote, NOT, Elen of Roads that Wikipedia should not be used for hate, that same day. My lack of making my sarcasm clear was accidental, now the accusation is anger not racism. I am actually not angry, I just hate the racism on that page, and for me to get accused of exactly what I can prove I was fighting is wrong. And I stand by my claim Ashkenazi Jews are not anything other than the Jews originating in France and Germany (they mixed with Russians later) as they have always claimed and that page is not scholarship but racism. Because the claims of Mongoloid blood has nothing to do with Mongolians who are fine and good, it has to do with hate. One complex racist lie after another is required to make the Khazaar"theory" work, and people's ignorance about Jewish history helps the racist lie along. I have since read Keostler's original work on the subject, he claims a minority of Ashkenazi Jews are related to Khazaars and I know that is extreme the number is negligible. And though the Jews should not be put on genetic trial for the 10 time in human history, they did and again are not Khazaars, over 2% (well it makes sense only one Kazaarian King converted). Keostler made it clear he wrote the book with an agenda to stop anti-semitism, and by making the Jews not semites they would be less hated, and he was never accused of being an historian of Jewish history, prior to the haters catching wind (he was a fiction novelist). Turmerick (talk) 10:58, 7 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

Declined due to lack of response to the question below. Feel free to post another request once you're ready to answer them. Max Semenik (talk) 20:26, 11 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]


If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

  • I've looked back at the actual block message that Elen left for you - see this version of this talk page. She pointed out that it was an apparent racist attack (my emphasis), and very clearly said "If we have misunderstood you, please explain yourself", which seems perfectly reasonable - and as for "being blocked for months", all you had to do was explain as asked, and you could have been unblocked right away. This all makes your above attack on Elen especially troublesome, as if that's the way you react to people being reasonable and civil with you, I am seriously concerned about how you might respond to someone in a genuine dispute.

    I'm also troubled by the content of your most recent unblock request, as it very much suggests to me a battlefield mentality - it's full of accusations of "ignorance" and "racist lies", and that is absolutely not the right way to approach that content dispute.

    However, having said all that, and considering that the actual reason you were blocked was due to a misunderstanding, I am willing to consider unblocking you. But first, I would like you to tell us what you intend to do if unblocked and explain how you will go about resolving your disputes. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 10:42, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]