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Checkuser candidates appointed (December 2023)

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Featured Article Candidate Mentor for Clipperton Island

Hi @Vanamonde93, I wanted to reach out and see if you had an bandwidth in the coming months to help nudge me in the right direction on an upcoming FA nomination for Clipperton Island. @Tcr25 and I have put a lot of work into the article and I think we are really close. We've already brought the article up to GA status and got a DYK for all our expanded work. I'm also working with a ham radio group that is planning to visit the island next year to get some better photos and video for us. If you don't have time I understand, if you could recommend another mentor I would really appreciate it. Thanks! Dr vulpes (💬📝) 04:49, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

@Dr vulpes: It looks like a very interesting topic, and niche enough that FAC should not be too difficult an undertaking. I am presently somewhat busy, but intend to return to full-time activity within the next week. If I haven't given you feedback within some days, please feel free to remind me. I should note, though, that I have no particular expertise with geographical subjects, and it would not hurt to ask someone with more experience in that direction to look over it. Vanamonde (Talk) 08:35, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:IRANPOL GS notification

Template:IRANPOL GS notification has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:12, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:IRANPOL GS talk

Template:IRANPOL GS talk has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:12, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

Deletion review for Gaby Jallo

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Gaby Jallo. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. GiantSnowman 12:51, 23 December 2023 (UTC)

The Signpost: 24 December 2023

I have reliable source as reference over there so according to guidelines it is correct. Kaustubh42 (talk) 13:30, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

You clearly did not read the entirety of my edit-summary, which linked to WP:BLP and WP:NOTDIR. Please do so now. The full table is still a violation of NOTDIR, and the state-by-state officeholders are not supported by the source you used. Vanamonde (Talk) 13:35, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

Seasons Greetings

Merry Christmas, Vanamonde93!
Or Season's Greetings or Happy Winter Solstice! As the year winds to a close, I would like to take a moment to recognize your hard work and offer heartfelt gratitude for all you do for Wikipedia. May this Holiday Season bring you nothing but joy, health and prosperity. Onel5969 TT me 15:32, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

Onel5969 TT me 15:32, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

Have a wonderful Christmas!

Spread the WikiLove; use {{subst:Season's Greetings}} to send this message

Jerium (talk) 17:44, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

Season's greetings


Christmas postcard featuring Santa Claus using a zeppelin to deliver gifts, by Ellen Clapsaddle, 1909
~ ~ ~ Merry Christmas! ~ ~ ~

Hello Vanamonde93: Enjoy the holiday season and winter solstice if it's occurring in your area of the world, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 20:48, 26 December 2023 (UTC)

Do you know if Martha and The Muffins are still touring or not?

I can't really find anything online on whether or not Martha and The Muffins are still touring. The only thing I found is their YouTube channel and they released a new album recently but I don't know if that still counts as being "active" or not because I have not heard of them announcing any tour dates or even doing gigs. Perhaps you know more about them than I do. Cheers, (FreakyBoy) 16:40, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

@FreakyBoy: I'm afraid I have no idea; and I'm also wondering why you asked me in particular, as I don't believe I have any history with that article? Perhaps you meant to ask someone else? Vanamonde93 (talk) 05:22, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

Happy New Year!

Happy New Year!
Hello Vanamonde93:


Did you know ... that back in 1885, Wikipedia editors wrote Good Articles with axes, hammers and chisels?

Thank you for your contributions to this encyclopedia using 21st century technology. I hope you don't get any unnecessary blisters.

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Welcome to the 2024 WikiCup!

Happy New Year and Happy New WikiCup! The 2024 competition has just begun and all article creators, expanders, improvers and reviewers are welcome to take part. Even if you are a novice editor you should be able to advance to at least the second round, improving your editing skills as you go. If you have already signed up, your submissions page can be found here. If you have not yet signed up, you can add your name here and the judges will set up your submissions page ready for you to take part. Any questions on the scoring, rules or anything else should be directed to one of the judges, or posted to the WikiCup talk page. Signups will close on 31 January, and the first round will end on 26 February; the 64 highest scorers at that time will move on to round 2. The judges for the WikiCup this year are: Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs · email), Epicgenius (talk · contribs · email), and Frostly (talk · contribs · email). Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:21, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – January 2024

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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 11:54, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

You recently blocked this editor for sockpuppetry, I wonder if you would consider revoking their talk page access too, they are attacking good faith editors and issuing veiled threats of legal action at User talk:Mihi Credite. Theroadislong (talk) 19:44, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

Done, thanks. Vanamonde93 (talk) 06:22, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

The Signpost: 10 January 2024

Your GA nomination of The Wind's Twelve Quarters

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article The Wind's Twelve Quarters you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Chiswick Chap -- Chiswick Chap (talk) 11:41, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

Deletion review for Slobodan Lučić

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Slobodan Lučić. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Svartner (talk) 19:48, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of The Wind's Twelve Quarters

The article The Wind's Twelve Quarters you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:The Wind's Twelve Quarters for comments about the article, and Talk:The Wind's Twelve Quarters/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article has never appeared on the Main Page as a "Did you know" item, and has not appeared within the last year either as "Today's featured article", or as a bold link under "In the news" or in the "On this day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear at DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On this day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Chiswick Chap -- Chiswick Chap (talk) 03:22, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

About a possible FA mentorship

Hey Vanamonde! I was pleasantly surprised to stumble onto your name at Wikipedia:Mentoring for FAC, as I have a project to bring to FA that you might be familiar with: Castle in the Sky. I'm not planning to nominate it at FAC for at least a couple months, until I finish a couple of other articles I've been working on, but I'd appreciate it if you could offer some advice as a mentor and let me know what the best first steps to be taking would be. Let me know what you think! TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 18:53, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

I'd love to look in on that, and even — if you're okay with it — chip in a little on the analysis/interpretation bits. I should warn you it isn't going to be the easiest thing for me to find the time for, though, I've a lot of things I've committed to doing both on- and off-wiki. Also: I write about speculative fiction a good bit, but movies much less; it may be wise to get an expert to take a look at the production-related pieces, though I'll give you what feedback I can. Vanamonde93 (talk) 23:20, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
I always welcome help with the articles I'm working on, so I'd love to see what additions you make. No worries about not being able to get to it immediately; as I said, it's probably going to be a couple of months (I myself have to finish the monster of a project to get Princess Mononoke to GA), so I'm in no rush. Mostly, though I've put in a couple of FAC reviews already, I'd appreciate your help with navigating the idiosyncracies of FAC and the FA criteria, which I think will be the biggest challenge for me. Feel free to drop a message on my talk page about the project whenever you have time. Thanks a bunch! TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 00:34, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

Congratulations!

The 100 DYK Creation and Expansion Medal
I was perusing WP:DYKNC and noticed you'd crossed the century mark not too long ago; congratulations, and thank you for your hard work and contributions to DYK! --Dylan620 (he/him • talkedits) 10:50, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
Why thank you, Dylan620, nice to be noticed. Vanamonde93 (talk) 18:27, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

Regarding my edits in the Ram Mandir page

Hi Vanamonde93,

I have made few edits in the Ram Mandir page and it resulted in disagreement with another editor 'The Herald'. I tried to alter a sentence in the lede of the article about Ayodhya being hypothesized birth place of Rama. The intention is to replace the word hypothesized with something like as per Hindu beliefs or as per Valmiki Ramayana. My edit was reverted by the aforementioned editor and I did revert his edit once. He warned about repeated reverts and I stopped reverting. I tried to putforth some points in the talk page which he not replied fully. I would request to go through my mentions in the talk page and if there is any mistake on my side I am more than happy to rectify myself. Apart from that, today I tried to add a sentence in the lede to mention the significance of Ayodhya city as being one among seven sacred cities as per Hindu beliefs by citing a Hindu scripture, Garuda Purana as reference. However, it was reverted by another editor saying the source was primary one. I agree with that and raised a mention in talk page for attention from other editors. Apart from that I have made changes related to Supreme Court of India's view on validity of ASI report, strong evidence on Hindus' belief that the disputed site was considered by Hindus as birthplace of Rama and the underlying structure of the destroyed mosque to be of non-Islamic nature. Also, added a comment by K. K. Muhammed about Ayodhya excavations. Another edit I have made was about the original name of the mosque in the historical records until the mid-twentieth century, i.e. Masjid-i-Janmasthan and also a brief history about belief of Hindus that their temple got destroyed during Mughal rule. The aforesaid editor, The Herald issued a notice about edit warring. I would request you to go through all of my edits which were done in good faith to make readers grasp what actually is this Ayodhya dispute and also why Hindus considered it so dear to them. My intention is to segregate the political discourse around it from the religious significance it had among Hindus since ages. In case I have done some serious mistakes that violate guidelines of Wikipedia blatantly then I am ready for being judged accordingly. Thank you very much. Take care. Bsskchaitanya (talk) 18:01, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

@Bsskchaitanya: The page has now been fully protected because a number of people were edit-warring, so please take this matter to the talk page. In general, if you are reverted once in good faith, you need to discuss the content you wish to add on the talk page. The content can be added, or added in modified form, or not added, based on WP:CONSENSUS on the talk page. Please remember that you can be adding good content and still be edit-warring. I suggest you read WP:CONSENSUS, WP:DUE, and WP:EW before making more edits to that page. Vanamonde93 (talk) 18:06, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
Hi Vanamonde93,
Thanks for quick reply. Now, I understand your point. Will definitely read about the ones mentioned by you. Have a great day ahead. Take care. Bsskchaitanya (talk) 18:14, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

Media

Hello, hope you are well. I just came across this (Redacted) and was about to put it as a "mentioned by media-org" at Talk:Madhav Das Nalapat. However I'd like your view on if it crosses into OUTING. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:31, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

See [[1]]. I think there's an outing issue as well as it being a very dubious source, even if we do use it a lot. Doug Weller talk 13:30, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
I wasn't intending to use it as a source, RS-ness is not an issue. In the "mentioned by media-org" template context, I'll add Daily Mail, Palmer Report, The Onion, Fox News etc. Not blacklisted stuff, though. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:10, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
The source comment was a throwaway, not relevant here I know. But I wouldn't put the Daily Mail there either, I presume Opindia is blacklisted. But the real issue is possible outing. Although I don't know how Vanamonde would fit the description Nalapat seems to be referring to him. The mention of people Nalapat knows tracking someone's social media posts is a bit worrying. Doug Weller talk 15:57, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
OpIndia was indeed on my mind and yes, it's blacklisted. And possible outing (at least in spirit, IMO) is why I came here. My reading is the same as yours. It's possible this refers to stuff stated or linked on en-WP, in which case it's not outing per our definition, though possibly a bit creepy. I checked their userboxes, but that wasn't it.
It's also possible it's more icky than that. Hence I thought I'd ask first before I started adding it on more talkpages etc. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:12, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
I have redacted this out of an abundance of caution - I am not not immediately aware that this information (on-wiki) is public knowledge. If I am wrong then I will self-revert. Primefac (talk) 16:38, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
Good enough, hopefully Vanamonde will tell us. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:47, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
Thanks all: let's just say the redaction is fully warranted, and I'd prefer if you didn't use that source, GGG. Vanamonde93 (talk) 16:49, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
No problem. You may want to keep an eye out in case the Signpost-people stumble on the same thing. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:52, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
I'd hope they're not so eager that they're digging through the OpEd section of a tiny weekly paper! But it's a good thought, I'll keep an eye. Vanamonde93 (talk) 17:03, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

Scant evidence for destruction by Babar

I don't think it is up to us to define if the evidence for destruction is scant or not. If we are citing Kunal Kishore for claiming that the evidence is scant, we must then present the whole picture that he simply believes that the evidence for destruction by Babar is scant and not by Aurangzeb.

There are multiple Muslim sources which attest to destruction of temple by Babar. Here is an example of just 1.

“And among them is the great mosque that was built by the Timurid king Babar in the sacred city of Ajodhya. It is believed that Rama Chandra, considered to be the manifestation of God, was born here. There is a long story about his wife Sita. There was a big temple for them in this city. At a certain place Sita used to sitand cook food for her consort. Well, the said king Babar demolished it and built a mosque at that very place with chiseled stone in 923 A.H.”

--Pg No. 16 (Harsh Narain's Ayodhya Temple-Mosque dispute. Focus on Muslim sources.)

-- Al-Hind-u fi al – ‘Ahd al-Isami, by Maulana Shams Tabriz Khan under the title Hindustan Islamni ‘Ahd mein Factpineapple (talk) 06:39, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

The wikipedia page itself has another source by Faizabad District Gazeteer which attests to the destruction. There are many other sources which attests to destruction as well.
On what basis is the evidence scant? Factpineapple (talk) 06:50, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
On the basis that scholarly sources do not find support for the supposed destruction. Vanamonde93 (talk) 16:45, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
There are actually multiple literary sources for destruction. And we should let the readers decide if those sources are scant evidence or plenty Factpineapple (talk) 17:46, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
Actually, per WP:PRIMARY and WP:NOR, we are required to summarize what reliable secondary sources say about a subject, not interpret and collate primary sources. Vanamonde93 (talk) 18:33, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

The Signpost: 31 January 2024

2024



Die Zeit, die Tag und Jahre macht

Happy New Year

2024

Like 2019, remember? -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:21, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

On the Main page: the person who made the pictured festival possible --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:06, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

story · music · places

Yesterday was a friend's birthday, with related music. - I'm on vacation - see places. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:25, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – February 2024

News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2024).

CheckUser changes

removed Wugapodes

Interface administrator changes

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Guideline and policy news

  • An RfC about increasing the inactivity requirement for Interface administrators is open for feedback.

Technical news

  • Pages that use the JSON contentmodel will now use tabs instead of spaces for auto-indentation. This will significantly reduce the page size. (T326065)

Arbitration

  • Following a motion, the Arbitration Committee adopted a new enforcement restriction on January 4, 2024, wherein the Committee may apply the 'Reliable source consensus-required restriction' to specified topic areas.
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Miscellaneous


Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 18:01, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

Deletion on my talk page

I noticed you redacted a message. Can you let me know what the content was? Barry Wom (talk) 11:17, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

It was a threat, made toward you. I sent it to the WMF emergency channel; admins are not equipped to judge the seriousness of such a threat. If you remain concerned, please feel free to reach out to them yourself: Wikipedia:Responding to threats of harm has more detail on how best to respond. Vanamonde93 (talk) 16:52, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
Okay willdo, many thanks for the quick response. Barry Wom (talk) 17:06, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Requesting urgent assist for George Town's FA nomination

Hey there Vanamonde93. I'm seeking urgent assist on the FA nomination of George Town, Penang. Participation has been rather minimal & in spite of the improvements I've been making, one of the mods is about to archive the nomination. Do let me know should you be keen to help. Thanks a bunch! hundenvonPG (talk) 14:30, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

Hi hundenvonPG, that looks like an interesting article but it's far outside my wheelhouse, and I cannot promise to get to it. You seem to be doing the right things, but sometimes an article just doesn't get the attention it needs. You can always renominate it if it does get archived. Vanamonde93 (talk) 18:04, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

Regarding my edit on Ram mandir page

Hi,

I have made an edit today on the Ram mandir page in the section 'Deity'. Can you verify if that edit is as per Wikipedia norms? Thank you. I just noticed that you are a Wikipedia administrator and created many featured articles. Good to know about your contributions. All the best. Take care. Bsskchaitanya (talk) 10:31, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

Thank you. If you mean this addition [2], broadly speaking it is okay, but I see several improvements that could be made. The link between "Balak Ram" and "Ram Lalla" are not obvious to most readers, even ones from the subcontinent. And "has informed" isn't very grammatical; the simple "said" is often the best construction. And a minor issue: I would write "a temple priest", rather than "the temple priest", as the article implies he is one of many. Best, Vanamonde93 (talk) 17:19, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
Thanks for your inputs. Will do the necessary changes whenever I get time. Take care. Bsskchaitanya (talk) 18:42, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

DYK for The Wind's Twelve Quarters

On 8 February 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article The Wind's Twelve Quarters, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that after Ursula K. Le Guin published her collection The Wind's Twelve Quarters, a reviewer called her the "ideal science fiction writer for readers who ordinarily dislike science fiction"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/The Wind's Twelve Quarters. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, The Wind's Twelve Quarters), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Kusma (talk) 00:03, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

WikiCup 2024 February newsletter

The 2024 WikiCup is off to a flying start, with 135 participants. This is the largest number of participants we have seen since 2017.

Our current leader is newcomer Generalissima (submissions), who has one FA on John Littlejohn (preacher) and 10 GAs and 12 DYKs mostly on New Zealand coinage and Inuit figures. Here are some more noteworthy scorers:

As a reminder, competitors may submit work for the first round until 23:59 (UTC) on 27 February, and the second round starts 1 March. Remember that only the top 64 scoring competitors will make it through to the second round; currently, competitors need at least 15 points to progress. If you are concerned that your nomination will not receive the necessary reviews, and you hope to get it promoted before the end of the round, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. However, please remember to continue to offer reviews at GAN, FAC and all the other pages that require them to prevent any backlogs which could otherwise be caused by the Cup. As ever, questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup and the judges (Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs), Epicgenius (talk · contribs), and Frostly (talk · contribs)) are reachable on their talk pages. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:58, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

The Signpost: 13 February 2024

Opinion

@Vanamonde93: Suthasianhistorian8 became rather more disruptive ever since he was unblocked for sockpuppetry. He even tries to protect other sock accounts from being investigated because their edits align with his motive which is very clear and that is to vandalize Sikh related articles and harass and intimidate other editors who disagree with his edits and opinions. His such discriminatory behavior is very loud and clear. He lies to administrators when filing ANI against other editors of harassment and intimidation but it's actually he himself who is a harasser. His contribution from the date of his account creation will show his harassment behavior. He was also blocked for edit warring and abusive behavior towards other editor prior to being blocked for sockpuppetry. My take is that this user needs to be banned from all India related articles. 2601:547:B01:73E6:1BB7:C852:6595:CE22 (talk) 17:05, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

I told Suthasianhistorian8 off for inappropriately blanking SPIs. This does not mean I have any sympathy for your campaign against him, whether or not you are HaughtonBrit, as I suspect. It's deeply ironic that both of you assume that because I warned one of you, I must automatically be taking the other's side. Please don't post here again in this manner. Vanamonde93 (talk) 17:14, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

WikiCup 2024 March newsletter

The first round of the 2024 WikiCup ended at 23:59 (UTC) on 27 February. Everyone with at least 30 points moved on to Round 2, the highest number of points required to advance to the second round since 2014. Due to a six-way tie for the 64th-place spot, 67 contestants have qualified for Round 2.

The following scorers in Round 1 all scored more than 300 points:

In this newsletter, the judges would like to pay a special tribute to Vami_IV (submissions), who unfortunately passed away this February. At the time of his death, he was the second-highest-scoring competitor. Outside the WikiCup, he had eight other featured articles, five A-class articles, eight other good articles, and two Four Awards. Vami also wrote an essay on completionism, a philosophy in which he deeply believed. If you can, please join us in honoring his memory by improving one of the articles on his to-do list.

Remember that any content promoted after 27 February but before the start of Round 2 can be claimed in Round 2. Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, feel free to review one of the nominations listed on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:41, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – March 2024

News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2024).

Guideline and policy news

Technical news

  • The mobile site history pages now use the same HTML as the desktop history pages. (T353388)

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The Signpost: 2 March 2024

Hello Vanamonde93,

You recently offered a statement in a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Conflict of interest management. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Conflict of interest management/Evidence. Please add your evidence by March 20, 2024, which is when the evidence phase closes. You can also contribute to the case workshop subpage, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Conflict of interest management/Workshop. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration.

For the Arbitration Committee,
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RFA2024 update: no longer accepting new proposals in phase I

Hey there! This is to let you know that phase I of the 2024 requests for adminship (RfA) review is now no longer accepting new proposals. Lots of proposals remain open for discussion, and the current round of review looks to be on a good track towards making significant progress towards improving RfA's structure and environment. I'd like to give my heartfelt thanks to everyone who has given us their idea for change to make RfA better, and the same to everyone who has given the necessary feedback to improve those ideas. The following proposals remain open for discussion:

  • Proposal 2, initiated by HouseBlaster, provides for the addition of a text box at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship reminding all editors of our policies and enforcement mechanisms around decorum.
  • Proposals 3 and 3b, initiated by Barkeep49 and Usedtobecool, respectively, provide for trials of discussion-only periods at RfA. The first would add three extra discussion-only days to the beginning, while the second would convert the first two days to discussion-only.
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  • Proposals 6c and 6d, initiated by BilledMammal, provide for allowing users to be selected as provisional admins for a limited time through various concrete selection criteria and smaller-scale vetting.
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  • Proposals 12c, 21, and 21b, initiated by City of Silver, Ritchie333, and HouseBlaster, respectively, provide for reducing the discretionary zone, which currently extends from 65% to 75%. The first would reduce it 65%–70%, the second would reduce it to 50%–66%, and the third would reduce it to 60%–70%.
  • Proposal 13, initiated by Novem Lingaue, provides for periodic, privately balloted admin elections.
  • Proposal 14, initiated by Kusma, provides for the creation of some minimum suffrage requirements to cast a vote.
  • Proposals 16 and 16c, initiated by Thebiguglyalien and Soni, respectively, provide for community-based admin desysop procedures. 16 would desysop where consensus is established in favor at the administrators' noticeboard; 16c would allow a petition to force reconfirmation.
  • Proposal 16e, initiated by BilledMammal, would extend the recall procedures of 16 to bureaucrats.
  • Proposal 17, initiated by SchroCat, provides for "on-call" admins and 'crats to monitor RfAs for decorum.
  • Proposal 18, initiated by theleekycauldron, provides for lowering the RfB target from 85% to 75%.
  • Proposal 24, initiated by SportingFlyer, provides for a more robust alternate version of the optional candidate poll.
  • Proposal 25, initiated by Femke, provides for the requirement that nominees be extended-confirmed in addition to their nominators.
  • Proposal 27, initiated by WereSpielChequers, provides for the creation of a training course for admin hopefuls, as well as periodic retraining to keep admins from drifting out of sync with community norms.
  • Proposal 28, initiated by HouseBlaster, tightens restrictions on multi-part questions.

To read proposals that were closed as unsuccessful, please see Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I/Closed proposals. You are cordially invited once again to participate in the open discussions; when phase I ends, phase II will review the outcomes of trial proposals and refine the implementation details of other proposals. Another notification will be sent out when this phase begins, likely with the first successful close of a major proposal. Happy editing! theleekycauldron (talk • she/her), via:

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/CollegeDekho (request for undeletion)

Hi @Vanamonde93,

It's been some time since the CollegeDekho page was deleted by you. I don't intend to question your judgement but the manner in which the delete was performed seems suspicious at best. One of the users @NortonAngo, who voted for the account to be deleted, has his account suspended due to abusive behaviour. When a deletion discussion is started, I was under the impression that we would be able to tweak the tone of the article, add more links etc, however, in this case we did not have enough time to tweak the page to make it compliant with wiki norms. I humbly request you to reconsider the delete and give CollegeDekho a chance. RdScorez (talk) 13:24, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

@RdScorez: The page in its entirety was written by an account blocked for undisclosed paid editing, so no, I will not undelete the page under any circumstances. And I have to ask; what is your interest in this page? Your third edit was to post on the talk page of a deletion discussion, not a venue a new user is aware of. Vanamonde93 (talk) 15:20, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
@Vanamonde93 Thanks for clarifying the reason for the deletion of this page. I was not aware that people get paid for creating articles. Coming to your question, very recently a family member of mine utilised the services of the company and spoke highly about them. Naturally, I started researching a bit online as I didn't know them. They seem to have been covered by prominent publications and have participated in sought after education events. Digging deeper I landed on this rabbit hole for this deleted page. Honestly, I always wanted to create a page on wiki and I thought this could be it. However new page creation seems to be quite a complicated task for a noob and maybe editing an existing page would be the way to go. Hence, my request for the page to be restored. RdScorez (talk) 07:35, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
People aren't supposed to get paid for writing articles, except under very specific circumstances outlined at WP:PAID. I won't be undeleting the page for the reasons I've explained, but there isn't anything stopping you from creating a fresh draft, and preferably submitting it to WP:AFC. Vanamonde93 (talk) 15:14, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

Narendra Modi image change

In answer to your question in this edit-summary, the change was made in this edit. The File:Shri_Narendra_Damodardas_Modi.jpg page says there are some other uses of that alternate image if you want replace them also for self-consistency. DMacks (talk) 02:26, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, I couldn't be bothered to sort through the diffs. I imagine it ought to be replaced, but every other editor seems to want to use the photo they took of the Indian prime minister, and it's a bit of fool's errand to rein them in; so I think I'll just keep an eye on the biography. Vanamonde93 (talk) 03:53, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
Sadly, I don't disagree with your overall analysis. DMacks (talk) 04:03, 18 March 2024 (UTC)