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Speedy deletion nomination of Beyoncé's 2018 Coachella Performance

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A tag has been placed on Beyoncé's 2018 Coachella Performance requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about an organized event (tour, function, meeting, party, etc.), but it does not credibly indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please read more about what is generally accepted as notable.

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• Hi! I'm not sure if this is the same as it is in your draftspace, but the deletion tag states that the main issue was that the article didn't show where Beyonce's performance was independently notable outside of the performer herself or Coachella. Wikipedia typically doesn't have articles for individual performances as it can be hard to show where it's independently notable of the performer and event/venue. Typically individual performances that receive some coverage are briefly covered in the performer's article and in the main article for the event. For example, this is already covered briefly in the main Coachella article at Coachella_Valley_Music_and_Arts_Festival#2015–present and at Beyoncé#2018:_On_the_Run_II_and_upcoming_seventh_studio_album, where it's covered in slightly more detail.

I think that part of the issue may have been with original research - there are several portions in the draft where it looks like you included original research, which are claims, opinions, or conclusions that are created by yourself but aren't explicitly stated in source material. An example of this would be the mention about Beyonce's costume. While it does seem very obvious, we can't state that she modeled her costume after Egyptian fashion or Nefertiti in specific without a source that explicitly states "Beyonce styled her costumes after black culture and black women, such as Queen Nefertiti". We could include it with say, a source like this Rolling Stone article which says this, but not with a source that isn't about Beyonce at all. It's one of those ways that Wikipedia differs from academic and scholarly work, as this is something that absolutely fine elsewhere. Essentially we can only summarize existing sourcing. There are several different areas in the draft that have this, so that may have contributed. It can honestly be pretty difficult to shift writing styles, as this was something I struggled with on Wikipedia when I first began editing.

I'm not entirely sure if this would really need its own article just yet - this is something that could probably pass, but would need to be written fairly specifically. This isn't the same thing at all, but the article on Beyonce's tour with her husband gives a good overview of how the article should be laid out and its overall tone. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 20:11, 30 April 2018 (UTC)