User talk:Walkingtalkingmammal

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Proposed deletion of Sour Sweet

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Tildes in edit summaries

Hi Walkingtalkingmammal, Please note that you should not include the tildes (the four ~s) in your edit summaries. These should only be used for the purpose of including your user name and edit details in the text, when, for example, adding text to a discussion page (as I will be doing at the end of this text). I did exactly the same when first editing on Wkipedia, until someone pointed it out to me. Cheers. Davshul (talk) 07:30, 18 January 2010 (UTC) Hi Thanks for the advice. Walkingtalkingmammal

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Riotous Assembly

Thanks for contributing new article Riotous Assembly. However, one of Wikipedia's core policies is that material must be verifiable, by being clearly attributed to reliable sources. Please help by adding sources to the article you created and by making it clear how the sources support the material (see here for how to do inline referencing). Many thanks! PS If you need any help, you can look at Help:Contents/Editing Wikipedia or ask at Wikipedia:New contributors' help page, or just ask me. ErikHaugen (talk | contribs) 18:37, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for adding some references to this article. Ideally, the article would have references to content in reliable sources written about the book. The Reliable source guideline has more about what makes a source reliable. Thanks, and let me know if I can help! ErikHaugen (talk | contribs) 17:41, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your interest. As you are no doubt aware I'm not overly familiar with writing web pages of any description but I feel I'm gradually picking things up as I go. I'm a little confused by what you mean by 'reliable sources' though. I've offered the web address of the British Library catalogue amongst others and these have been deleted. What level of references are required? Walkingtalkingmammal (talk) 14:55, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for working on this page! By reliable sources, I mean something like a scholarly peer-reviewed journal or an article from a reliable publication that does fact-checking, etc. Again, Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources has more about this. The openlibrary page that you had added is an "anyone can edit" type of a site, which means it is about as reliable as Wikipedia; ie, not very. The other reference that you added, the British Library's catalog, is probably fine wrt reliability, but the link you added didn't say anything about the book; I modified it a bit to point to the specific entry in the catalog for this book. Unfortunately, this page mostly only really verifies the date and author of the book; it doesn't really help readers verify the interesting bits in your article and doesn't do anything to establish notability. ErikHaugen (talk | contribs) 17:54, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Bring Home the Revolution

Good job on starting the article Bring Home the Revolution. We always want new users to WP:Be Bold. I would suggest adding WP:Inline citations to the article in order to make it easier for readers to WP:Verify the information you present. If you ever need any help, feel free to ask me here or on my talk page, Sadads (talk) 16:23, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the encouragement. I'm still searching for a reliable source of verification for literature. Any suggestions?

I would suggest looking through Google News (make sure you do the archived search as well) and Google scholar for reviews, also Kirkus reviews tends to have everything recent. If you have a local library with EBSCOhost, their are huge swaths of archived newspaper reviews in that database and you may be able to find some. Also, their are other online publications that aren't blogs or user developed sites, which provide good reliable sources. For example, I found http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/700081.stm using Google search, Sadads (talk) 17:56, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Some tips for you!

Hi Walkingtalkingmammal, I thought I'd drop a few notes on your talk page with some help on writing articles :o)

First of all, it may be best for you to do a bit of reading, starting with the Wikipedia manual of style, which will give you a lot of information about how Wikipedia prefers its articles to be written. It's not as hard to follow as it might look; quite a bit of the information there probably won't be vital for you at first.

Second, I recommend you make a user sandbox - which is just an area you can use to practise in, and to make notes in, and to get things ready in. If you click this red link: user:Walkingtalkingmammal/Sandbox, that will let you create that page (it gives you an edit window to start work in). Anything, anywhere, on the help and information pages which gives you an example, try it out in your sandbox until you're familiar with it.

For your article, the next thing you want to do is start collecting as much information as you can about it. Google searches (particularly in Books and Scholar) will be your best friend for this! Once you've found the information, the next most important thing is to start writing up each fact in your own words (very important, this), and make a note at the same time of exactly where that information came from. Build in the references as you go along; I'm going to copy in, down below this, a whole heap of help on doing references, which was produced by one of our best teachers (Chzz).

Here's another place that you'll find incredibly useful - citation templates which you can copy and paste into your sandbox, between <ref></ref> tags; you just fill in the blanks from your sources into the template, and you'll end up with nicely formatted inline citations :o) It all helps. Remember to add a references section to your sandbox (make a new line, and put ==References== on it, and type {{reflist}} on the next line, so that you can see how your citations look as you do them. Remember to save your page often! You don't want to lose your work.

Hopefully this will give you a good start and make life easier for you. Pesky (talk …stalk!) 06:31, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

How references work

Simple references

These require two parts;

a)

Chzz is 98 years old.<ref> "The book of Chzz", Aardvark Books, 2009. </ref>

He likes tea. <ref> [http://www.nicecupofteaandasitdown.com Tea website] </ref>

b) A section called "References" with the special code "{{reflist}}";

== References ==
{{reflist}}

(an existing article is likely to already have one of these sections)

To see the result of that, please look at user:chzz/demo/simpleref. Edit it, and check the code; perhaps make a test page of your own, such as user:Walkingtalkingmammal/reftest and try it out.

Named references

Chzz was born in 1837. <ref name=MyBook>
"The book of Chzz", Aardvark Books, 2009. 
</ref> 

Chzz lives in Footown.<ref name=MyBook/>

Note that the second usage has a / (and no closing ref tag). This needs a reference section as above; please see user:chzz/demo/namedref to see the result.

Citation templates

You can put anything you like between <ref> and </ref>, but using citation templates makes for a neat, consistent look;

Chzz has 37 Olympic medals. <ref> {{Citation
 | last = Smith
 | first = John
 | title = Olympic medal winners of the 20th century
 | publication-date = 2001
 | publisher = [[Cambridge University Press]]
 | page = 125
 | isbn = 0-521-37169-4
}}
</ref>

Please see user:chzz/demo/citeref to see the result.

For more help and tips on that subject, see user:chzz/help/refs.

Something to make your life easier!

Hi there Walkingtalkingmammal! I've just come across one of your articles, and noticed that you had to create titles for your url links manually, or were using bare urls as references.

You might want to consider using this tool - it makes your life a whole heap easier, by filling in complete citation templates for your links. All you do is install the script on Special:MyPage/common.js, or or Special:MyPage/vector.js, then paste the bare url (without [...] brackets) between your <ref></ref> tabs, and you'll find a clickable link called Reflinks in your toolbox section of the page (probably in the left hand column). Then click that tool. It does all the rest of the work (provided that you remember to save the page! It doesn't work for everything (particularly often not for pdf documents), but for pretty much anything ending in "htm" or "html" (and with a title) it will do really, really well. Happy editing! Pesky (talk …stalk!) 06:31, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

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A page you started (The Seed and the Sower) has been reviewed!

Thanks for creating The Seed and the Sower, Walkingtalkingmammal!

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References need to be formatted properly. Please see WP:REF.

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Film categories

Hi there. I see you're editing film categories. Just a heads up that we don't sort them alphabetically. See WP:FILMCAT for how they're generally organized. This keeps them easily readable by editors, who can quickly ascertain if they're missing important categories. It also keeps them tidy, so that the name of the director isn't in the middle of the list of genres. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 17:00, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

Hi. I'm not sure what you mean. I haven't been listing them alphabetically. I'm listing them as they have been listed since 1920s.

Here's what I mean. When you see [[Category:Films directed by David Lynch]], that belongs at the bottom of the list of categories. Here's how we organize them:

• By year (Category:2015 films)
• By nationality (Category:American films)
• By genre (Category:Neo-noir)
• By production company (Category:American Zoetrope films)
• By director (Category:Films directed by David Lynch)

So, what I'm saying is, don't force the categories into alphabetical order. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 18:06, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

I've been editing film categories from the early 1900s and I have never yet seen them listed in that way. Have you unilaterally decided to change the listing order or are you planning to change all film pages?

Sorry, I get distracted easily and lose track of conversations. This is how WP:FILMCAT suggests that categories be ordered in film articles. It's not just how I do it. There's consensus for this at WikiProject Film. It's just a WikiProject advice page – not policy or even a guideline – but I think it makes sense, and I do try to keep articles compliant with it. Otherwise, like I said, you end up with the director's name in the middle of the list of genres, which isn't really helpful. If you want to see if there's still consensus for this, you could ask at WT:FILM. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 04:36, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

Fair enough. It's not really important which order categories are placed in but it's a bit silly if they are not all the same.

A page you started (The Clerkenwell Tales) has been reviewed!

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Tyrant's Novel

I'm not upset about your changes and I can understand your reasoning. I just think the Dedication needs to be separated from the plot summary, and also think the "too many section headers" is a bit silly. The entry as it stands is a starter. I think some reviewers think a new article needs to be at Good Article level before it should be unleashed on the world. Perry Middlemiss (talk) 22:49, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

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Please do not add or change content, as you did at List of Japanese films of 1960, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. Andrzejbanas (talk) 15:54, 25 July 2017 (UTC)

List of Japanese films

Hi. Could you not add genres to the lists of Japanese films? They have sources, but as genre is subjective (see WP:SUBJECTIVE, which states " Articles should provide an overview of the common interpretations of a creative work, preferably with citations to experts holding that interpretation. Verifiable public and scholarly critiques provide useful context for works of art." Genre is an interpretation of a work, if you want to add something to the genre list, make sure you can cite a source first. Andrzejbanas (talk) 16:05, 25 July 2017 (UTC)

Film Affinity

Also, what makes Film Affinity a reliable source? I can not find anything on the site of who works for it or where/how they gather their data on films. Andrzejbanas (talk) 16:06, 25 July 2017 (UTC)

I've brought up a discussion about this here: Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#Film_Affinity as you requested. Andrzejbanas (talk) 16:32, 25 July 2017 (UTC)

Revenge of Frankenstein

For some unclear reason, you added the category 'Black and White British Films' to the entry for 'The Revenge of Frankenstein.' The film was shot and released in Technicolor. In addition to that, the film was widely praised for its color photography. Thank you.(Sellpink (talk) 16:41, 16 August 2017 (UTC))

Italian Films 1957

Hi WalkinTalkin'. See the talk page of that article. Thank you Andrzejbanas (talk) 16:49, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

Please do not remove maintenance templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to List of Italian films of 1957, without resolving the problem that the template refers to, or giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your removal of this template does not appear constructive, and has been reverted. Thank you. Andrzejbanas (talk) 17:03, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to blank out or remove portions of page content, templates, or other materials from Wikipedia without adequate explanation, as you did at List of Italian films of 1957, you may be blocked from editing. Thank you. Andrzejbanas (talk) 17:05, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

I have tagged your edits because they do not actually contain any statement saying that the film was released in that year. You have removed these templates (here) and (here). If you want to discuss it, see the talk page of the article. Do not just remove them. Also, use my talk page, not my user page. Andrzejbanas (talk) 17:08, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

In response to this edit, I give you (here) and (here). Don't say you didn't remove template where it says here you obviously had. Andrzejbanas (talk) 17:14, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

Okay, fixed your comment on my talk page. How am I being dishonest? I do not understand you. Could you expand on that for me? Andrzejbanas (talk) 17:25, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

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