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Your submission at Articles for creation: Matt Beat (August 1)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by Dan arndt were:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The content of this submission includes material that does not meet Wikipedia's minimum standard for inline citations. Please cite your sources using footnotes. For instructions on how to do this, please see Referencing for beginners. Thank you.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Fails the requirements of WP:ANYBIO - YouTube, Twitter are not acceptable or reliable sources.

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Dan arndt (talk) 08:10, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Dan arndt I appreciate your reasoning, but you've clearly overlooked the multiple local news sources dedicated to Beat and his activities. As far as I can see, whether or not the coverage is local or not is irrelevant to reliability, and Beat's article passes the rule of three best sources in that regard, since the local pieces are all independent and significant coverage of Beat. The YouTube and Twitter sources are acceptable and are not violations of Wikipedia:TWITTER, since the claim of Beat's full name is only being used as sources of information about themselves. The same applies for the YouTube citation. Whoareuagain (talk) 08:20, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Laughing Squid is a personal blog site (not a reliable or reputable source) and I'd question the reliability of some of the other sources, as having any significant editorial oversight - more like fluff pieces than serious journalistic articles. Dan arndt (talk) 08:34, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Whoareuagain! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Dan arndt (talk) 08:10, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Previous account(s)?

Hello, Whoareuagain,

You've had an account for one day and yet you knew how to put together a source analysis table in an AFD discussion. There are many editors who have been editing here for years who don't know how to do this. What were your previous accounts> Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 04:41, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Liz, while I appreciate & and am thankful for your ever-present and dependable monitoring of Afd discussions, of which I have seen many reasonable closures from you, I hope you understand that I can't really answer an invasive question like that. What I can certainly assure you, however, is that I haven't violated any policies or guidelines (at least that I am aware of), and all of my contributions to Wikipedia are, and will continue to be, fully in good faith. Whoareuagain (talk) 15:06, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Just because you say "I haven't violated any policies or guidelines (at least that I am aware of)" doesn't make it true. When I placed the SPA tag, you had 11 edits, which means "has made few outside this topic." is still applicable. If you are clean starting, you should know that commenting on AfDs attract unnecessary attention. Either disclose your previous account here or to VRT. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 04:47, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

First off, there is no policy constraining me from discussing at an Afd, even as a new account. I am also not aware of any policy which binds me to disclose a previous account in good standing. Can you point me to such a policy/guideline?

What are you referring to Just because you say "I haven't violated any policies or guidelines (at least that I am aware of)" doesn't make it true? Is this an accusation of some sort? What policy am I violating?

Again, I direct you to the quote provided at WP:SPA: The tag should only be used on pages that relate to the single-purpose account's "single purpose". Furthermore, I did not have 11 edits when you placed the tag. You placed the tag at August 4, 8:50AM (UTC), during which time I had 29 edits. This is a completely trivial matter. I will not be pursuing it further, and will continue to contribute on Afds, whether that pleases you or not. Whoareuagain (talk) 05:21, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

To clarify, you had 11 edits when you made your comment on that AfD, not when I added the tag. You ask for a policy and then tag an essay on SPA? Either way, I don't see anyone asking you to stop contributing to AfDs. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 05:38, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What do you mean, tag it? Of course I'd tag it. WP:SPA is directly linked on the template. The template is literally called {{Single-purpose account}}. That's a pretty stupid question. Whoareuagain (talk) 05:42, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think you get it. WP:SPA is an essay, not a policy. You are free to do what you want with the template I placed on your comment. According to me, the tag is justified as you had only 11 edits when you commented. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 05:47, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am aware of WP:PGE, yes. I will be reverting the tag, and hopefully we will be finding ourselves on better terms in future interactions. Happy editing. Whoareuagain (talk) 05:59, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]