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Wikidata weekly summary #284

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
  • Development
    • Continued working on persistent storage of edits on Lexeme pages
    • Fixed an encoding problem in the SVG download of query results in the query service (phabricator:T178564)
    • Fixed a problem with change dispatching changes to Wikipedia and co, that sometimes lead to single wikis falling way behind. (T179060)
    • Added full URIs for external identifiers to the RDF export
    • You can leave feedback on how improved fulltext search result page should look like

You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here.



Read the full report · Unsubscribe · Lea Lacroix (WMDE) 15:29, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-44

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • You can now block users from emailing you through the Wikimedia wikis. [1]

Changes later this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 31 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 1 November. It will be on all wikis from 2 November (calendar).

Meetings

  • You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 31 October at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.
  • You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 1 November at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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00:20, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #285

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
  • Discussions
  • Other Noteworthy Stuff
    • If you want to review what happened during the WikidataCon, here is the list of all the sessions, with slides, notes and videos, when available
    • Release of wikidata-edit v2.0.0: brings qualifiers and references support, and a few breaking changes. See changelogs
    • Release of wikidata-cli v5.0.0: brings qualifiers and references support, multi-entity summary|label|description|description requests, a new `edit-item` command, and a few breaking changes. See changelogs

You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here.


Read the full report · Unsubscribe · Lea Lacroix (WMDE) 11:31, 6 November 2017 (UTC)

Question

Hi, just wondering why you do this and "rescue" sources that are not dead. It seems to me that it just bloats the reference list without solving a problem. Regards, WWGB (talk) 10:25, 6 November 2017 (UTC)

Hi, WWGB. The end game is to pre-emptively prevent link rot. I do not know why the tool building team led by Cyberpower678 decided to label it as rescuing. You cannot rescue something that is not lost. We shall have to ask them. Archiving live links pre-emptively prevents a problem. Thank you for asking. I really appreciate it. Having fun! Cheers! {{u|Checkingfax}} {Talk} 11:56, 6 November 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-45

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • You will no longer see the patrol log on Special:Log unless you specifically select it. [2]

Changes later this week

  • The 2017 Community Wishlist Survey begins on 6 November. You can post proposals from 19:00 UTC and until November 19.
  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 7 November. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 8 November. It will be on all wikis from 9 November (calendar).

Meetings

Future changes

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18:44, 6 November 2017 (UTC)

More thank yous

Thank you for reviewing my WMF grant request. Your copy edits were an improvement (as usual!). It was great to see so many editors have input to the project. I am appreciating my 'critics' more and more as time goes by since they make me a better editor. I wouldn't exactly call you a critic, I just want to convey that all those who provided feedback helped make the proposal better. The Very Best of Regards, Barbara (WVS) ✐ ✉ 21:57, 6 November 2017 (UTC)

Hi, Barbara (WVS). You are welcome. I hope it helps. Our small rapid grant request got a similar critique, by the same folks, but it got approved without changing course, delaying it, and basically starting over. Whew. Sometimes we try to read motive into critiques. If there is bad faith, well then. Hopefully it is all in good faith, and none of it is sour grapes or ax grinding. Were you at Wikimania Montreal? Having fun! Cheers! {{u|Checkingfax}} {Talk} 00:58, 7 November 2017 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #286

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.

You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here.


Read the full report · Unsubscribe · Lea Lacroix (WMDE) 14:36, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-46

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Changes later this week

  • The diff you see when you compare two different versions of a page has changed on MediaWiki.org and the test wiki. This is to make it easier to find a text change in a moved paragraph. It will hopefully soon come to more wikis. You can report bugs in Phabricator. [5]
  • A new user group on Commons will be able to upload MP3 files. The plan is to have this user group from 17 November. [6]
  • Wikis using Flagged Revisions will get the New filters for Edit Review by default on the recent changes pages. It will be possible to opt-out in user preferences. [7]
  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 14 November. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 15 November. It will be on all wikis from 16 November (calendar).

Meetings

Future changes

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19:19, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

What is Talk Page Theatre? Come find out!

Please join us in downtown San Francisco!
Classic theatre meme

Come find out what "Talk Page Theatre" is all about! The last Wednesday evening of every other month, wiki enthusiasts gather at Bay Area WikiSalon to collaborate, mingle, and learn about new projects and ideas.

We allow time for informal conversation and working on articles. Newcomers and experienced wiki users are encouraged to attend. Free Wi-Fi is available so bring your editing devices. We will have beverages (including beer and wine) plus light snacks. We will be at the NEW Wikimedia Foundation offices! w00t!!!

Please note: You should RSVP here, and bring a photo ID that matches your registration name. This also helps us figure out how much food and drink to bring in.

For further details, see: Wikipedia:Bay Area WikiSalon, November 2017

See you soon! Ben Creasy, Nikikana, and Wayne | ( Subscribe/Unsubscribe to this talk page notice ) | MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 09:30, 14 November 2017 (UTC)

Ferdowsi Millennial Celebration

Hello, Checkingfax – I moved the article "Ferdowsi Millenary Celebration" to Ferdowsi Millennial Celebration since I felt that "millennial" was the right word to use. I got to the page that said "Move succeeded", but I don't understand much of what is there. Would you mind looking at it and seeing if there are things that need doing, and taking care of them? Thanks. Also, do you think the second and third words of the title need to be capitalized? They were in the earlier title, so I didn't change the capitalization, but now I'm wondering if I should have.  – Corinne (talk) 17:08, 7 November 2017 (UTC)

Hi, Corinne. I feel that Ferdowsi millennial celebrations (plural) might show more continuity with the article text. I agree with millennial vs millenary. Jumping down, for continuity, and per MOS, the bolded instance in the lead should try to match the article title. There are other places when for continuity I feel that millennial should be substituted for millenary (e.g. - in a later subsection). As for the "move succeeded" page, part of that is to instruct you to fix any double-redirects (circular redirects). Fortunately, there is now a bot that will pick those up in a jiffy, so you can ignore that tedious and easy to botch task. Since my proposed article title is in sentence case (as you seem to concur is a good idea), you would need to do another move (to Ferdowsi millennial celebrations), then wait for the bot to clean up any double redirects. Make sure to move the talk page too, by checking the talk page checkbox in the page move wizard. Any questions? Having fun! Cheers! {{u|Checkingfax}} {Talk} 08:32, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
Thanks, Checkingfax. I don't think I checked any box in the first move. I guess I need to go back and do that, unless you've done it already. I'll take a look now.  – Corinne (talk) 17:36, 8 November 2017 (UTC) Well, the talk page shows "Ferdowsi Millennial Celebration", so I guess it was moved. I'm rethinking the capitalization of the title, though. I'm not sure the title should be in sentence case if it's the actual name of a particular celebration, which it seems to have been. LouisAragon, what do you think about this? Should the article title be "Ferdowsi Millennial Celebration", as it is now, or "Ferdowsi millennial celebration"?  – Corinne (talk) 17:41, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
SMcCandlish may have some good thoughts on the article title casing. I was kind of looking at places in the article where it is upcased and downcased, and favoring downcasing it. Having fun! Cheers! {{u|Checkingfax}} {Talk} 11:44, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
The one source cited, also an encyclopedia and entirely focused on Iran (thus more prone to overcapitalize in a WP:SSF manner on a topical basis than a more general work) gives it lower-case and plural. This isn't a proper name, but a description (the Millenary Congress, an organization, is a proper name, though). It's essentially not within the scope of the concept "proper name" for a diffuse "series of celebrations and scholarly events" over an entire month, throughout Iran and well beyond, as far away as the UK, to be considered a proper name, strictly speaking. Such an aggregation of discrete things can become capitalized as a matter of convention to some extent, as is the case with things like "the Civil Rights Movement" and "Art Nouveau", though such capitalization is avoided by many publishers and primarily a feature of journalism and a specific camp of academic publishing. WP is one of the publishers that avoids it, unless usage in sources is very predominantly capitalized for a particular subject. It's why so many things that are sometimes capitalized are not here. It's more neutral and also more readable in running prose. Names that are metaphoric/evocative and not merely descriptive are proper names by nature, e.g. Arab Spring (it isn't literally a spring in any sense of that word, and isn't entirely limited to Arabs per se). But this one's just plain descriptive. PPS: Lower case would be consistent with Ferdowsi millenary celebration in Berlin. PS: Millennial is the right word, meaning "of or pertaining to a period of 1000 years"; millenary means "consisting of 1000 years or other units"; a "millenary celebration" would be the longest party in history. :-)  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ >ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ<  15:15, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
Hi, SMcCandlish. Thank you for your reply. I see your points - and Corinne's original point and I concur - move it all to sentence case. I was wrong about the plural. D'oh! Having fun! Cheers! {{u|Checkingfax}} {Talk} 16:52, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
Thanks, SMcCandlish, for the information and your thoughts. I'll change it to sentence case if it hasn't been done already.  – Corinne (talk) 17:01, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
Hi, Corinne. Excellent work. This is fun. How do you feel about changing "millennial conference" to "Millennial Congress" for continuity? Notice the word change, and casing change. Cheers! {{u|Checkingfax}} {Talk} 00:57, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
Yes, I noticed that, too. I'll look at it tomorrow, and then decide.  – Corinne (talk) 01:08, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
Hi, Corinne. I made a few more tweaks to the article. If you disagree with any of them, please overwrite them. The only remaining things are that 2nd photo caption text, the See also wikilink text, plus I noticed that the article lacks inline citations. If you find a few sources to cite the text, I can show you how to insert them as dressed citation templates. Have a wonderful day. Having fun! Cheers! {{u|Checkingfax}} {Talk} 21:19, 14 November 2017 (UTC)

November 2017

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Hi, Jax. My talk page auto-archives every 93 days. I have a Blackberry Bold and it loads fine for me. Do you have an Edison? Did it load slow for you? Having fun! Cheers! {{u|Checkingfax}} {Talk} 13:46, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Rancho Tehama Reserve shootings

The article Rancho Tehama Reserve shootings has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

non notable shooting

While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, pages may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Jax 0677 (talk) 23:36, 15 November 2017 (UTC)

Hi, Jax. I would caution you against using the {{Prod}} template on articles that are only one day old, or using the WP:AFD or WP:CSD process for such fast moving targets. That is ridiculous and harms the project! I can think of no rational reason for doing this. Having fun! Cheers! {{u|Checkingfax}} {Talk} 13:52, 16 November 2017 (UTC)
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