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Template Talk:WesternSahara-stub[edit]

Your opinion would be welcome at the ongoing straw poll. Thanks, --E Asterion u talking to me? 11:22, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Contact[edit]

Do you have an email or something of that sort? -- Szvest 23:14, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Have you tried to send me an email via wikipedia? Cheers wikima 18:15, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Yes! You have to go to my preferences and enable it. Make sure to confirm it later at your email account when an automatic notice is sent to you. -- Szvest 21:14, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks and sorry I wasn't aware it was disabled! I just sent you an e-mail. Cheers wikima 21:21, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Western Sahara[edit]

Koavf has reported you on [3RR | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/3RR]. He has reverted 5 times in 24 hours. I responded to him.--A Jalil 17:52, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Thanks very much Jalil
  • I am disapointed and he always talks about good faith but does not even inform me.

Cheers - wikima 17:59, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

User notice: temporary 3RR block[edit]

Regarding reversions[1] made on October 14 2006 to Western Sahara[edit]

You have been temporarily blocked for violation of the three-revert rule. Please feel free to return after the block expires, but also please make an effort to discuss your changes further in the future.
The duration of the block is 8 hours.

Comments like Please do avoid edit wars on your 4/5th revert aren't good...

William M. Connolley 18:25, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Khelli Henna Ould Rachid[edit]

Thank you for your suggestion! When you feel an article needs improvement, please feel free to make those changes. Wikipedia is a wiki, so anyone can edit almost any article by simply following the Edit this page link at the top. You don't even need to log in (although there are many reasons why you might want to). The Wikipedia community encourages you to be bold in updating pages. Don't worry too much about making honest mistakes — they're likely to be found and corrected quickly. If you're not sure how editing works, check out how to edit a page, or use the sandbox to try out your editing skills. New contributors are always welcome. ST47Talk 20:59, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Page moves[edit]

Wow Did you read any of the lengthy discussion about the last time someone unilaterally moved these pages? I don't even know where to begin... Did you just ignore consensus? Did you notice that one of the pages was protected precisely because of this? Why did you create the page Coat of arms of the Sahrwai Arab Republic? Were you going to have it deleted, or just leave it? Did you think no one else would notice or care? Why didn't you put a note on their respective talks? -Justin (koavf)·T·C·M 19:20, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Page moves - Coat of arms of Western Sahara and Flag of Western Sahara[edit]

Wow Did you read any of the lengthy discussion about the last time someone unilaterally moved these pages? I don't even know where to begin... Did you just ignore consensus? Did you notice that one of the pages was protected precisely because of this? Why did you create the page Coat of arms of the Sahrwai Arab Republic? Were you going to have it deleted, or just leave it? Did you think no one else would notice or care? Why didn't you put a note on their respective talks? -Justin (koavf)·T·C·M 19:21, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]


  • Flag and coat of arms of the "sadr" is much more accurate
  • I did not remove any page but adjusted the redirects.
  • There is in principle no change as the flag of WS redirects to "sadr"
  • What I will discuss is to delted this redirect and use one that shows both flags, the Moroccan one ond the one of "sadr"
  • The other page was created by mistake. It does not include any wrong information. If you can/want to delete it feel free.
  • I don't like to discuss on my "personal" page as I rarely us it.
  • Go to the respective talk pages and discuss please.
  • If you are angry because you got blocked, then it's not my problem when you fool yourself.
Cheers wikima 20:15, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Wow You totally ignored my questions, making my post almost moot. If you want to discuss this last post, go to Talk:Flag of Western Sahara. If you want to actually address the questions I asked you before, please do so here. -Justin (koavf)·T·C·M 20:48, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Can oyu pease save me your "wows"? Thanks
  • I'll go to the talk page. It is made to talk I think.

wikima 20:50, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sure I won't use that particular three-letter word if you really desire. So, are you going to answer my questions, or not? -Justin (koavf)·T·C·M 21:24, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • I thought we are discussing in the realtive talk page aren't we!?!?
  • And I have ansewered your questions
  • And again lets discuss there not here. Ok? Thanks
wikima 21:26, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Look up I asked you the following:
  • Did you read any of the lengthy discussion about the last time someone unilaterally moved these pages?
  • Did you just ignore consensus?
  • Did you notice that one of the pages was protected precisely because of this?
  • Why did you create the page Coat of arms of the Sahrwai Arab Republic?
  • Were you going to have it deleted, or just leave it?
  • Did you think no one else would notice or care?
  • Why didn't you put a note on their respective talks?
You answered none of these questions directly, and only the first indirectly. -Justin (koavf)·T·C·M 21:40, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Morocco mediation[edit]

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Wikima, I can understand you're fustration at Justin but I implore you to sign this mediation as it is hard for me to see a conclusion which sees the sprited map being taken off the article. If you can get the oter people on the payties list to sign that would be really great as well. Cheers, Aussie King Pin 11:24, 18 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Aussie, thank you for the wise words.
  • The problem with the mediation is that it goes against a consensus
  • But give me a chance to have an other think about it.
Thanks Aussie - wikima 22:00, 18 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Western Sahara flag / coat-of-arms[edit]

Hi Wikima,

(The article is about the disputed territory of Western Sahara and not the "sahrawi rep." =>> PLease no flag, no coat of arms. Priority is content - Feel free to adjust the format - Thanks)

I'm confused by your infobox revert; I used "Flag of Western Sahara.svg" and "Coat of arms of Western Sahara.svg"...?  (You may also not be aware that it removed other information...?)  Regards, David Kernow (talk) 23:04, 6 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi David,
  • I am not surprised about your confusion. Western Sahara has been consistently and systematically confused with the [Sahrawi_Arab_Democratic_Republic|"Sahrawi Republic"].
  • This has been with purpose and presents a clear abuse of Wikipedia for pro-polisario activits propaganda.
  • However, further to a neutral point of view, both, Western Sahra and "SADR" are two diferent things
  • The "SADR" is an exiled republic or government which is based in Algeria and which claims Western Sahara
  • Western Sahra is the disputed territory.
  • The flag, coat of arms etc apply to the first one, the "SADR". Western Sahara as disputed territory has no flag and such things.
  • It is mostly administrated by Morocco. In this sense the flag that is effectively and mostly used for Western Sahara would be rather the Moroccan one.
  • But this would not be neutral as a neutral point of view does not recognise the sovereignty of Morocco nor the so called "SADR" (position of the UN or the European Union for instance).
  • Morocco is however recognised as the administrating power in the territory.
  • Sadly this is not the case in Wikipedia. Western Sahara is widely presented as a country, a state etc..
Thanks - wikima 20:19, 7 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your summary. I've restored the infobox, but without the flag and coat-of-arms; is this acceptable...?  Yours, David (talk) 00:21, 8 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • No problem and thanks, David. wikima 21:14, 8 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hello,

I agree with your text above. I renamed the Coat of arms of Western Sahara to Coats of arms of the Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic (Commons:Category:Coats of arms of the Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic explains the bad spelling), but I read the archives of Talk:Flag of Western Sahara afterwards. What can we do to restore impartiality? Can this link help? (notice that there is no flag on the right of the country/location name in the dark blue zone). --Juiced lemon 19:32, 17 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Hello Juiced lemon,

  • Glad to know and thank you. The item is definitely presented in a biased way and must be redone. Wikipedia should not care about Polisario's and pro-Polisario activists opinions.
  • Sources like this that one help as they make it clear that WS is a territory and not a state.
  • This topic had apparently been taken to the Move requests page WP:RM. If you manage to go through the archive then that would be great. Any action in this sense is appreciated.
Thanks & Regards - wikima 20:01, 17 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Protection[edit]

Well I'd be happy to unprotect, yes. --Robdurbar 16:14, 12 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic[edit]

Wikima,
If someone makes a mistake within the work they contribute to an article, please do not simply revert all their work; correct the mistake. Thank you. David Kernow (talk) 05:07, 13 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

David, I reverted to the last version because I couldnot fix the template...
Understood; all that should be required is changing information to the right of the equals signs (=) or deleting entire rows. (If you're unsure about the latter, simply delete the information after the equals sign and someone should tidy-up any strange text that might then show.) Is there anything still incorrect on the template...?  If so, let me know and I'll amend it; by comparing the amended version with the current version you can then see how it was done. Yours, David (talk) 07:44, 13 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ok David, when others change your changes because there are "mistakes" in them then just don't get back to your version as it was including these same "mistakes".
I guess I try to weigh the amount of work lost by a reversion against the amount kept by not reverting and keeping a few small-scale mistakes.
  • If yo have a look a the comments lines in the history - as you rightly recommend - you will see what these "mistakes" are, respectively what others wanted to change, namely in our case the "Sahrawi Republic", to delete the currency and the calling code from the box.
  • I will try to delete them again, in your template. If then the box shows "strange text" then please come and fix it.
You've successfully deleted them; and I've now replaced them with the value "n/a" ("not appropriate", "not available"). This should remove the "strange text" that has appeared (the names of the parameters deleted). Hope all looks okay to you and that the changes are apparent here.
Thanks - wikima 19:07, 13 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Addendum: Also there was a footnote next to the map (now striped version). Can you fix? Thanks wikima 19:11, 13 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Do you mean the footnote that was number 3, also now removed...?
Yours, David (talk) 21:17, 13 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • I mean the footnote nr 1. It is related to the map and must show there, next to the map. Just take one minute time, use the history, check how it was and make it axactly the same.
Oh, now I understand – sorry not to realize before!  Hope you agree that using the "map_caption =" parameter is an improvement.
  • Please can you simply delete both rows "Currency" and "Calling Code"? If your template cannot do this then I would prefere to go back to the fomer one as it is more flexible and easy to hanlde by users who, like me, don't know about all the technical details.
Thanks - wikima 21:27, 13 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Done. As a result of your requests, the {{Infobox Country or territory}} template is further improved!  Thanks, David (talk) 21:47, 13 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you David! - wikima 21:57, 13 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Amgala[edit]

You cannot write this before reading what I'm writing in the Italian language wikipedia  :)): Zuccherinodolce, contributors are always welcome - Please remember only that this is an encyclopedia, that all edits must be neutral and that it is not a place to militate for Polisario, any other organisation or ideology. Thanks and welcome wikima 21:01, 31 October 2006 (UTC) I'm not a member of Polisario, I'm interested in Human Rights and now, in 2007 I'm not sure (declaration in october), is the unique liberation's movement that don't use violence.

I'm sure that RASD/SADR, Polisario and Western Sahara are different and I'm sure that moroccan occupation is not legal before the referendum. The only part of West Sahara where the RASD/SADR is present is Tifariti and Bir-Lehlou. I appreciate some of your correction. In the voice Amgala I think that in the first part there is an error, Can you control it? Amgala is inside the second Moroccan Wall not outside. The map is in italian :)) --Zuccherinodolce 01:48, 18 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In this map is outside [2] --Zuccherinodolce 02:51, 18 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Who is a "brick wall" ?!?[edit]

I would suggest you have a little think of what you are doing:

  1. You are rejecting a discussion and just reverting without delivering any argument or additional information
  2. And you do by attacking personally someone who is inviting you to discuss, treating him of "brick wall".

wikima 18:01, 19 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

(Addendum: This is related to Western Sahara - wikima 18:05, 19 November 2006 (UTC))[reply]

Sorry, but I've discussed with you before and saw nothing to make me think anything came of it. ¦ Reisio 22:12, 19 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This is the talk page of the "Free Zone" and I can't remember having discussed this topic with you!? -- wikima 20:15, 20 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Talk:Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic#Proposal_for_a_Corrected_Version_of_the_Article ¦ Reisio 20:23, 20 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You're mixing up things. This is a discussion about the so caled "sadr" -- wikima 20:29, 20 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not making things up; I said "I've discussed with you before", not "I've discussed the Free Zone with you before". ¦ Reisio 20:34, 20 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ok this is clarified now, So, you think this allows to block any dialog and to step into an edit/revert war?? -- wikima 20:37, 20 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think incorrect statements shouldn't be added to articles, period. ¦ Reisio 21:05, 20 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • What you're saying is rather generic and vague. Of course incorrect statements should not be added, but who defines whether a statement is correct or not? You, because you say it? Well I am afraid not. And why do you think we do have talk pages next to every single article? To keep edit/revert-warring and reject discussion with co-editors who invite you to do so? -- wikima 21:14, 20 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Morocco Mediation[edit]

Given that no one has replied to the mediation within the last 17 days, I am closing it as being stale. From a cursory glance, it appears to me that mediation is no longer needed. However, if this is not the case, then you are more than welcome to file a new case. Thanks. On behalf of the Mediation Committee, ^demon[omg plz] 16:21, 1 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to WikiProject Morocco[edit]

Welcome, Wikima, to the WikiProject Morocco! Please direct any questions about the project to its talk page. If you create new articles on Morocco-related topics, please list them at our announcement page and tag their talk page with our project template {{WikiProject Morocco}}.

A few features that you might find helpful:

  • The project's Navigation box points to most of the pages in the project that might be of use to you.
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Szvest - Wiki me up ® 15:14, 9 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Re Template:Infobox Country or territory and Western Sahara[edit]

Hi wikima,

I assume that you did the infobox for Western Sahara. If this is the case,
  • Please remove the palce holder for the flag and the coat of arms. They should not appear there. WS is a territory.

Thanks for bringing this to my attention. The absence of the {{{image_flag}}} parameter should mean that neither the missing flag nor missing coat-of-arms images should appear, so I'm working to fix this now.

  • Is there a possibility to use something everybody can edit? If not I will make the effort to get the old editing back. Editing should not be dependent on technic.

This is the previous version of the template, which includes a mixture of HTML, wikicode and wikicode-by-templates (i.e. {{!}}, {{!!}}, {{!-}} etc). These three methods are each more or less sensitive to how their code is formatted, i.e. formatting that works in one section of the template's code is likely to produce very different (i.e. dysfunctional) results in another. Are you sure you'd prefer to return to this situation...?
Yours, David Kernow (talk) 16:11, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi David,

  • Thanks for the quick reaction. I appreciate.
  • I don't have a preference to any version. I only find important to make sure coding is no barrier for editing as not everyone is familiar with the tricks of templates for instance
  • Any solution that provides the possibilty for all users to change content easily and without destroying the format is welcome to me.
  • It may help if you could link, in a discret manner, the template at the bottom of the box. Users who wish to make changes will be able to track back to the very template.

Thanks for your effort & regards. wikima 16:18, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • I'm glad I happened to be here when you sent your message!  If you visit Western Sahara now, hopefully everything will be back in order.
    I understand exactly what you mean about coding; before becoming involved with Wikipedia, I knew almost no HTML, CSS, etc and have learned the little I know now from puzzling over the code here. So I'm keen to make complex code as consistent and readable as possible – hence, for example, the spacing and indentations in the current {{Infobox Country or territory}} code. Maybe, though, you'd prefer a different kind of layout...?  Re providing a link to the template, a {{Tnavbar}} is what's needed, which I'll add now; thanks for this suggestion. Yours, David (talk) 16:42, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • David, the box looks right now, thanks for the swift action
  • Re the footer (This box: view • talk • edit), I think this is really good. many of us can follow back with templates and try to find their ways to edit them if needed. However I when I click the links I am guided to empty pages rather. But may be this is to be so. I'll have an other look into the details when I have more time.
Thanks for your help! Regards - wikima 21:13, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Footer: My mistake – should now be corrected. Best wishes, David (talk) 02:00, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Follow-up[edit]

Hi again Wikima,
I thought you ought to be aware of this thread in case you notice and wonder why the view-talk-edit links are now missing. Yours, David (talk) 09:00, 15 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic[edit]

Hi Wikima, (I am writing in reference to this.) On this page, I am trying to reword the first sentence so as to have good English and neutrality. The wording to which you reverted has a few flaws including a misused semicolon, a comma splice, and strange wording. I assure you that I am not pro-Polisario or pro-Moroccan. Perhaps you disliked the "subsequent partial occupation by Morocco" part. I can understand this, and I hope to have fixed it (see here). « D. Trebbien (talk) 2007 May 13 00:55 (UTC)


Hi Trebbien,
  • Indeed much if not most of stuff on Western Sahara had been written from a pure pro-polisario POV and it is still taking a huge effort to get things balanced.
  • Thanks for you message and I value really your action. We need neutral editors, who take all aspects of the topic into consideration, not only the polisarian side.
Regards. wikima 20:19, 13 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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What are you doing?[edit]

Please stop it See Talk:MENA. -Justin (koavf)·T·C·M 18:50, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Image:Flag of sadr.svg[edit]

You're issue should probably head to the Wikimedia Commons, since that is where the change needs to occur. I started the discussion for you at Commons:Village_pump#SADR_vs_Western_Sahara. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 08:34, 20 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. - wikima

SADR/West Saharah[edit]

I honestly think a request for comment is needed for this issue, since not only I feel I do not know much about the naming issue, but I feel if all that it is going to be is revert wars between you and other users, it would best to get this resolved before anyone gets banned. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 09:02, 21 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I already initiated one, and not a single new person commented - Talk:Flag of Western_Sahara#Request_for_Comment:_In-article_name_.26_dab. Why don't you throw your hat in the ring. ¦ Reisio 23:31, 21 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going to Reisio, just figuring out what is going on. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 02:06, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe in the future you could like, not foster redundant images when you haven't figured things out yet...or ever... ¦ Reisio 04:59, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Chad, etc.[edit]

Again Your post on my talk is offensive, implying that I'm illiterate. Please don't resort to tactics like this in the future. As for our respective sources, mine is a source from one of the interested parties, while yours is not and is, in fact, from a party that has an incentive to deny this story. If you have a more reliable source, I'd be happy to see it. -Justin (koavf)·T·C·M 02:24, 8 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Your source is the known propaganda agency of Polisario: SPS-RASD (BTW a very bad one).
  • If we have discussed this in the talk page and if I had showed you that there is information on Chad denying that news, then at least wait and discuss instead of blindly reverting.
  • If you just could stop reverting everything that does not suit your pro-püolisario POV, that would be great.
  • Please make an effort.
Thanks - wikima 18:26, 8 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Propaganda I never said that SPS wasn't propaganda; furthermore, I have freely admitted that it is. That having been said, whether or not it is propaganda is irrelevant to whether or not it is true. I have still not seen any information from Chad denying this; only third-party sources. If you just could stop reverting everything that does not suit your pro-Morocco POV, that would be great. Please make an effort. Thanks. -Justin (koavf)·T·C·M 02:49, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Your behaviour is simply unacceptable and you are exhausting the community again.
  • There is an information by SPS that Chad has diplomatic ties, again, with the so-called rasd. But MAP has published a denial of Chad's governement.
  • You, however, keep reverting to the initial "source". It seems to be true for you because it is SPS.
  • This information must at least be kept out until it is clarified and a neutral source has been found on this.
  • And now, give it a think and give some peace please, because what you are doing is beyond reason.
wikima 21:49, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • And now here is the source MAP is referring to. It is on the site of the government of Chad, which was down yesterday when checked it:
Mise au point
Par La Primature
vendredi, le 20 juillet 2007
«« Retour journal
" Dans un article dénué de tout fondement, truffé de mensonge et publié sur Alwihda, il est fait mention de signature d'un accord de reconnaissance de la République arabe sahraouie démocratique par le Premier Ministre, Chef du Gouvernement Dr Nouradine Delwa Kassiré Coumakoye. Aucun Acte de rétablissement des relations diplomatiques entre le Tchad et la RASD n’a été signé au cours de l’audience que le Premier Ministre a accordé au Ministre sahraoui des Affaires Etrangères Mohamed Salem Ould Salek. Nous faisons la mise au point suivante."
wikima 22:02, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Chad's site? That site is owned by a German and hosted there; I don't know that it's "Chad's site." Furthermore, I don't know enough French to really read this article, but I'm willing to believe your translation is accurate. -Justin (koavf)·T·C·M 05:29, 13 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]


  • This is simply silly.
  • If you are willing to believe that information is accurate (unless you prove someone is making jokes on behalf of the gov. of Chad) so why do you revert to your version on the page of the so-called sahrawi republic?
wikima 18:59, 14 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Silly You're right; it is silly. I do not believe the source is accurate; I never wrote that. I think your translation of the source is accurate, although I'm not sure. -Justin (koavf)·T·C·M 16:12, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Edit war on Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic[edit]

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content which gains a consensus among editors.

I put the same message on User talk:Koavf. Please find someone to mediate, these reverts are really annoying. --Gribeco 02:40, 24 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The message is a warning to stop revert-warring each other. If reverts continue, I will notify the admins. I am not offering my own services as a honest broker, because I can be accused of bias. Thank you for participating constructively. --Gribeco 18:42, 10 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Flag of the SADR[edit]

Hello,

According to discussion in Template talk:ESH, the idea that Western Sahara has no flag is accepted. Is there something which prevents the move of Flag of Western Sahara to Flag of the Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic? --Juiced lemon 20:08, 20 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • I don't understand your question very well. Do you mean in the technical sense, so that any attempt to move the page fails technically?
Regards - wikima 21:35, 20 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Flag of the Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic[edit]

I honestly believe that we should build a new article from scratch, since whatever copy and paste move has been done is a violation of our policies. I will write it again, but that will require another deletion. Is this acceptable? User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 22:07, 21 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Zscout370,
  • In fact I don't understand your concern.
  • If you build a new article, koavf will certainly come, put all his Polisario POV or move to his Polisario versions of Western Sahara.
  • But up to you. I am with you as long as the action makes sure Western Sahara is not mixed-up/confused/subtituted with the "Sahrawi Republic" and shows that they are two separate things.
Thanks - wikima 22:19, 21 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, it is fixed. I plan on expanding it, but I hope to get the basic information right. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 22:28, 21 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • It looks good to me. Thanks - wikima 22:38, 21 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Your welcome. The reason why Kovaf is calling it a copy and paste was that it was in the process of being moved from a period a time in 2006, but an editor copied the text and pasted into a new article. This is what admins delete a lot; so to prevent that again, a new article is made and now, the only issues is with POV, which I don't think it will happen much. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 22:41, 21 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Flags articles[edit]

Stop it, please Note that on articles like Flags of Africa, there are no asides, explanatory notes, etc. on any entry of any flag. Why should the Flag of Western Sahara be any different? -Justin (koavf)·T·C·M 22:46, 7 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

ANI[edit]

I have brought up the disruptive editing of you, Koavf, and A Jalil here. Picaroon (t) 23:31, 7 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Are you there man?[edit]

Hi Wikima. Since Oct. 15th? I'd like to see you back. As i told Jalil and Justin, we want you here to write articles. We need balanced articles. There are so many new things to add. So many changes are going on in Morocco especially in politics. Zack and me wanted to try another strategy. All of you have taken a step behind. Well, it is good to calm down and feel fresh again. But i say it again Wikima. All of you can do better. Think consensus and stop thinking "you're right". The community is watching you and it would be so sad to see it ending w/ ANI and ArbCom cases. We tried informal mediation. It clearly failed. I was thinking about a formal one w/ the help of the Mediation Committee. But there only a couple of people editing your subjects. If you block these people, that's it. You will tell me that Justin was already indef and got blocked tons of times but many things have changed in Wikipedia. Among them the fact that the community started to ignore the block log. In other words, you appear a few times in a short time span at the ANI and you get your first few blocks. You'd get nervous. You'd go mad unintentionally calling names and go revert again. Then you may get an indefinite. You don't have to get a long blocklog to get indef. You still can come back but only after a few months or 1 year if one is lucky enough. Please consider coming back and get us some ideas on how to work on that. Or you can still name a few areas using a list of a few lines. Please reply via talk page or email as you see fit. -- FayssalF - Wiki me up® 21:53, 26 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Join the WikiProject Western Sahara Neutrality![edit]

Hello Wikima. I noticed you were interested in Western Sahara. So please come to the new WikiProject Western Sahara Neutrality! Please quit the other Western Sahara project. Thanking you in advance. Moroccan Sahara (talk) 21:25, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed deletion of DM Fail[edit]

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Flag of Western Sahara[edit]

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