User talk:Wool Mintons/Archive 1

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Film infobox

Please keep in mind two things - flag icons are not used in the infobox, and the release date should follow the format used in the country where the film was made, i.e. July 30, 2009 for the US, 30 July 2009 for the UK, Australia, and other countries that use that format. Have fun! MovieMadness (talk) 14:56, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Actually, three things! Under Starring in the infobox, don't list everyone in the cast - limit it to the key players, otherwise the infobox will be very long. MovieMadness (talk) 15:00, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Hi! Being new, instead of finding the actual infobox template, I copied the template from another page, which had the flag as well as the UK date style, oops! I also used the Tea for Two trailer title because it was in public domain, and therefore didn't have to deal with the fair use rationale, even though the poster obviously fits better in it! Thanks for the tips, though, they really help :) Wool Mintons (talk) 06:03, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

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1930s category films

Hi Wool! May I ask about your edits you made to some 1930s pages? Specificaly, why did you remove the 1930s horror films cat and 1930s comedy film cat from the page for The Old Dark House? These categories are used to help not get category:comedy films and category:horror films too overcrowded. I look forward to your reply! Andrzejbanas (talk) 08:08, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

The film is a comedy horror film, isn't it? (From what I read in the lead it said humorous dialogue as well as being a horror film.) It was already listed as a comedy horror film, which I feel was more specific than the two categories separately. I removed them because it felt redundant to have those listed in addition to comedy horror. From my readings on categories in WP:FILM, it says to put them in the most specific categories, which in this case would be 1930s comedy horror films, but as that doesn't exist yet, wouldn't comedy horror be the best? Wool Mintons (talk) 08:19, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

True, but since there aren't enough comedy horror films in the 1930s, (under ten of them by my knowledge) it's still useful to have 1930s horror films and 1930s comedy films in that category. It still has some straight ahead comedy scenes that don't relate to the horror proceedings such as the whole "have a potato" jokes at the dinner table in the movie. And it also has some straight ahead horror scenes such as the whole battle with Sol at the end. Do you think it would be alright to bring back those cats? :) Andrzejbanas (talk) 14:08, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Sorry it took so long to get back to you! I replaced the categories. :) I think I was just on a roll from editing the romantic comedy categories that were still under romance films and comedy films (and with no mention of romantic comedy in their categories even though they're clearly stated to be romcoms in their leads!) and should have stayed away from articles where they just dabble in other genres. Thanks! Wool Mintons (talk) 05:42, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

To Catch a Thief

Not sure why you took down the category Romance Films. There is a spectacular romance between the two stars. What's your thinking? --Ring Cinema (talk) 16:04, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

I'm changed it to 1950s romance films, I didn't remove romance films completely. :) Wool Mintons (talk) 20:16, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Film infobox

Hi. I've noticed in some of your edits you've replaced the {{FilmUS}} with [[Cinema of the United States|United States]]. The former auto-populates the country category, which is one of the 3 primary categories all films should be categorized by. These templates have been set up to do three things 1) replace the flags in the infobox, 2)link to the countries' "cinema of" article and 3)auto-populate the country category (in the same way "English" in the language field in the infobox also auto-populates). Thanks. Lugnuts (talk) 17:56, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

I do have a question about this, then. The reason I was changing them to the link was because the MOS suggests putting the categories in alphabetical order, and with the template automatically placing American films and English-language films at the front of the list of cats, that's sort of impossible. Do you think I should ignore the MOS on this and stick with the template? Thanks for any help! Wool Mintons (talk) 10:10, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

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Film categories

Why did you remove the "Romance films" category from Prudence and the Pill? It's obviously about romance (and sex). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Codrdan (talk • contribs) 00:49, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

It's also a comedy (as stated in the lead). Therefore, romantic comedy, which is what I changed it to (well, the even more specific 1960s romantic comedy films). Which also means it shouldn't be lumped in with the romance films and the comedy films, as per WP:FILM most specific cats. Romantic comedies are sub-cats of both romance films and comedy films, and according to that, it shouldn't be placed in the two parent categories. :) Wool Mintons (talk) 01:43, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

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Duplicate categorization

Hi WM, this is a response to your deletion of a category entry in Get Over It (film). I restored the entry, following the duplicate-categorization rule. I don't know whether there's a consensus on the issue right now, but I agree with one other user that readers who want to see all the pages in a category often expect to see them on one page. Please join the conversation at Wikipedia_talk:Categorization#Inclusion of articles in (distinguished) ancestor categories. Thanks.
PS: Your description of 2000s romantic comedy films as "non-distinguished" is incorrect. 2000s romantic comedy films are obviously distinguished from other romantic comedy films by being produced in the 2000s. Please comment in the "Inclusion" discussion that I linked above.
—Codrdan (talk) 06:50, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

I'd much rather comment here first. You say it's incorrect. Under the categorization section WP:FILM, the example is listed under 2000s comedy films, not comedy films. It doesn't list comedy films at all. The romantic comedy category can be systematically broken down into decades, as it has been done. Every romantic comedy film can fit into one of those subcats. If they weren't broken into those subcats, the category would be enormous. With your 'correction', that leaves that film as the only film remaining in the romantic comedy films category. Something like "American silent film actors" is a distinguished category, as you can't categorize everyone else into "American sound film actors." 2000s romantic comedy films isn't a distinguished category, because you can categorize everything that doesn't fit into it in another similar category. Not to mention that if someone were browsing the category, wouldn't it be easier and less cluttered to look under the decades? If someone is trying to remember the name of an old romantic comedy, they only have to look through a few subcats to find it instead of wading through nearly 1200 films simply listed there. Wool Mintons (talk) 08:31, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Peter Lawford combined years

I very much like the look of this but I wonder -- it's hard enough to get many editors to make additions to tables correctly. The rowspan will just make it harder. Since the movies shown are only a fraction of his total, the list will inevitably grow. Is this a place where we should sacrifice elegance for ease of editing?. . . . Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk • contribs) 11:46, 17 February 2010 (UTC) (If you chose to respond, please do so here.)

While I understand what you mean, combining the years is actually what WP:ACTOR supports. The filmography table sample has the years combined. Wool Mintons (talk) 14:33, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

Category deletion

Category:American films states "For convenience, all American films are included in this category. This includes all American films that can also be found in the subcategories." Clarityfiend (talk) 09:35, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

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Angels with Dirty Faces

Thanks for your explanation, that makes total sense. I have a bit of a blind-spot when it comes to categories; I never use them so I usually work on the crude principle of the more the merrier. Sub-cats are obviously sensible, so thanks for your work on this! GedUK  09:39, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

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