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May 2011

Hi ZjarriRrethues. Thank you for your work on patrolling new pages and tagging for speedy deletion. I'm just letting you know that I declined your deletion request for Add information on wikipedia, a page that you tagged for speedy deletion, because the criterion you used or the reason you gave does not cover this kind of page. Please take a moment to look at the suggested tasks for patrollers and review the criteria for speedy deletion. Particularly, the section covering non-criteria. Such pages are best tagged with proposed deletion, proposed deletion for biographies of living persons, or sent to the appropriate deletion discussion. A7 does not apply to schools MrKIA11 (talk) 06:45, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

Another admin deleted it per A7.--— ZjarriRrethues — talk 13:30, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Esad Mekuli

The DYK project (nominate) 12:03, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Tartar Lamb (band)

Hello ZjarriRrethues. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Tartar Lamb (band), a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: The article makes a credible assertion of importance or significance, sufficient to pass A7. Thank you. Salvio Let's talk about it! 00:06, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

VOCE SUL DIALETTO DI VAKARIÇI (VACCARIZZO ALBANESE)

Salve, ho scoperto testè che hai creato una voce sulla Wiki in inglese sull'albanese parlato a Vaccarizzo Albanese in Calabria. Sono un po' sorpreso che tu l'abbia redatta e dubito dell'enciclopedicità della voce stessa. Al massimo potevi farla in italiano, ma in inglese mi sa che non sussiste il criterio, no? Dubito che creare una siffatta voce fosse necessario, altrimenti bisognerebbe stilare una voce per ogni varietà dialettale paesana, come l'albanese zhurian, quello Barliot ecc... Non è proprio corretta questa frase che cito: _Vaccarizzo Albanian is a subdialect of the Arbëresh dialect of the Albanian language_ già ti ho espresso i miei forti dubbi sull'esistenza di un vero e proprio idioma albanese di Vakariçi e soprattutto è accettato da tutti o quasi (tu sei tra i quasi) che la lingua Arbëreshë (Gluha Arbëreshë, Arbërisht) è una lingua naturale antica e come tale non può essere un dialetto di una lingua semi-artificiale contemporanea come l'albanese standard d'Albania di Enver Hoxha del 1972. Casomai è il contrario: proprio l'albanese d'Albania si trova ad essere parzialmente costituito da grammatica e vocabolario Arbërisht quindi un mezzo dialetto abbastanza pieno di termini turchi che io son felice di non usare (nota personale). Se volevi intendere come lingua albanese la macrolingua albanese (ethnologue insegna) allora dovevi specificare meglio. Una curiosità, sei italiano come me o sei albanese balcanico? Ti ho scritto in italiano perchè o italiano o albanese la lingua di Dante la parli e scrivi sicuramente da madrelingua, l'inglese va bene come lingua franca punto. Attendo una risposta da parte tua

Rrì mirë më shëndetë!
--Orodeo (talk) 00:40, 8 May 2011 (UTC) from IT

Zoupan

Hello Zjarri! I agree that Zoupan is highly POV-motivated SP account. I encountered this early on in his articles, but since then he's been avoiding blatant acts of POV deletions in articles I've come across and has shaped up his style and sourcing somewhat. His research remains rather superficial, and his articles so short, that he could simply claim sloppiness or negligence rather than deliberate misrepresentation, although how magically all of his subjects are transformed into pure-blooded Serbs escapes me ;). You have certainly had more interaction with him, if you think it necessary, start a RfC or an ANI thread. On the other hand, you must be careful: the article you cite, on Ljutovid, was not even started by Zoupan, but by User:Kovac09, who also added the titles. Zoupan merely clarified the link to a source already given in the article. Unless we're talking sockpuppetry here, there's nothing to blame Zoupan for in this particular case. Take care, Constantine ✍ 08:35, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

I should have checked that but when I saw him misciting the titles on Zachlumia I assumed that he started the original article. He's started so many of these articles that they have to be checked one by one.--— ZjarriRrethues — talk 08:45, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
I agree that the articles need checking; even if there is no foul play, they are usually woefully inadequate content-wise. If you have the time and inclination to check them and expand them, you'll do Wikipedia a service. Best, Constantine ✍ 08:51, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
It'll take some time since most of the articles he's started have titles that are used by a small minority of scholars of Serbia(like Petar Gojniković, whom most sources mention as Predimir). Btw this person may not have even existed. After Holevas should wikipedia expect an article about papa-anypomonos?--— ZjarriRrethues — talk 09:15, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
Why not? I think I'll leave Byzantium for a while and return to World War II... The problem is that finding neutral sources on Greece for the period is well-nigh impossible. One has to sift through a dozen conflicting accounts just to get a picture... Constantine ✍ 09:34, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
Come to think of it even the meaning of the nickname "anypomonos" is a matter of dispute. Regarding the resistance groups FH's work is quite good[1] because he published many of the declassified British/German documents without the usual polemic comments--— ZjarriRrethues — talk 09:43, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
Yes, I also value Fleischer highly. Although generally writing from a leftist perspective, he is far more sober and clear-headed than most Greek authors. Unfortunately, I just underwent a house move, and his books are stowed in boxes in a different city. Anyhow, papa-Anypomonos is up! I'll try to find more sources and gradually expand it. Cheers, Constantine ✍ 10:21, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Hi ZjarriRrethues! I noticed your message on my talk page regarding Zoupan, but unfortunately at the time I was unreachable. Zoupan is highly POV editor. He is deleting everything which is not connected to Serbia, and inserts Serb/Serbian/Serbia in places where others belong also. For example, see here. In this case he inserted Serbian Cyrillic, although other nations use Cyrillic. I tryed to talk with him, but without any success. Regards, Kebeta (talk) 10:06, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

You should probably take it to WP:AE if he keeps making POV edits.--— ZjarriRrethues — talk 12:08, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Butting in here. Only yesterday I reverted this edit, where Zoupan spuriously attributes an expanded work of history to John the Deacon, alters the author's floruit and also shows himself blissfully unaware of the distinction between a text and the manuscript in which it is preserved, in addition to citing no sources (which there aren't). Almost like he's working from Google Books snippets and filling in the details himself as he finds convenient. (As a semi-retired user) I have no time to investigate this particular user's history, but if there's a wider pattern of troublesome editing behaviour, as your comments seem to confirm, it obviously warrants wider attention. That's why I'm bringing this up here. Hope that helps. Regards, Cavila (talk) 17:54, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

The source mentions John the Deacon 6 times[2], but there's nothing about him on pages 54-5 i.e another source misrepresentation.--— ZjarriRrethues — talk 19:20, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Election

Rroguzhina is won by PDIU see all voted numered finished --Vinie007 17:30, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
Sorry my fault, didn't see --Vinie007 17:45, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
Rrogozhinë is in Kavajë, so the rest should be corrected.--— ZjarriRrethues — talk 17:48, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
Did, i also think indepent should only be included if it's bigger than one of APA or APQ, we also don't include Hysni Milloshi at tirana. That's creating only disinformation. --Vinie007 20:23, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
We should add it wherever there are independent candidates or other party candidates. Of course for the full candidate lists we'll have to wait for the final results.--— ZjarriRrethues — talk 20:32, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
Ok i also make mistakes :P --Vinie007 12:11, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
Actually he isn't check Party for Justice, Integration and Unity article. --Vinie007 12:14, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
Maybe you meant Librazhd --Vinie007 12:18, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
No, I meant Delvinë, but it seems that he's a PD+PDIU candidate because PDIU has the most seats in the council.--— ZjarriRrethues — talk 12:22, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
Yes, they are in the same aliance. --Vinie007 19:42, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
Can you please check KZAZ, because i am not sure if my albanian translation is good. --Vinie007 17:10, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Bua

I'm preparing an article about Teodor Bua and Meksha Buziqi. Do you have any offline sources that we could use?--Kushtrim123 (talk) 17:05, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

I may have some sources about Bua, so start it and I'll help with the expansion.--— ZjarriRrethues — talk 17:35, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
Hi Zjarri, i think we should update File:Collage of views of Tirana.jpg and we should include these File:Tirana National Museum.jpg and File:Tirana Skanderbeg Square (2).jpg --Vinie007 18:29, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

Battle of Greece

Well, he has a point: the Battle of Greece is essentially the German invasion, and there was little actual fighting in Albania as the Greek army withdrew. Technically, the time period of the Battle of Greece involves also the Greek retreat from Albania, but in reality the Albanian front and the German operations in Macedonia were two completely different and distinct campaigns. The Battle of Greece article mentions the Greek withdrawal from Albania that resulted from the German advance, but it is rather telling IMO that it mentions nothing on Italian operations or the clashes with the Greeks in Albania. I think that the Albanian front belongs properly to the Greco-Italian War page, from 28 October to the Greek capitulation. As for the Australian and NZ tags, they are inescapable given that the "British" troops that faced the Germans were mostly ANZACs... Cheers, Constantine ✍ 16:10, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

I would agree with that if this was a universal standard but for example Talk:Battle of Manzikert has been tagged with a WPGR and it didn't involve even slightly the territory of Greece, but as I said wp tags are the last of my wiki priorities.--— ZjarriRrethues — talk 16:15, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
WPGR covers also Byzantine history, hence the tag on Manzikert and hundreds of other articles. Greek history does not involve just the territory of modern Greece. Constantine ✍ 16:19, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
PS, I'll edit the lede on the Battle of Greece article, it does not really correspond to reality nor to the article it is supposed to summarize. Constantine ✍ 16:20, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
The southern Albania as a battlefield is a bit of a peacock phrase indeed.--— ZjarriRrethues — talk 16:30, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
Can you explain that a bit? Constantine ✍ 16:33, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
It is a bit of peacock because it doesn't even come close to the definition of a battlefield of German-Greek clashes as Macedonia.--— ZjarriRrethues — talk 16:40, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
Ah, that's what you meant. Anyhow, I changed the lede, have a look if you want. Constantine ✍ 16:42, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Hajdari

Can you recheck this, because i think its notable enough and you may wants to recheck --Vinie007 13:11, 26 May 2011 (UTC)


Even if it's not kept, you can add an external link that features it.--— ZjarriRrethues — talk 13:13, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

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I kindly remind you that I asked you three times on the Talk:Vojsava Tripalda to help us and translate one sentence:

  1. diff That link shows a note (number 33) which says: “Muzaka na thotë se Vojsava ishte shqiptare nga familija e Muzakajve.”. Will you please be so kind to translate this sentence?
  2. diff That link shows a note (number 33) which says: “Muzaka na thotë se Vojsava ishte shqiptare nga familija e Muzakajve.”. Will you please be so kind to translate this sentence?
  3. diff I will resume the questions that you ZjarriRrethues did not reply:... translation of one short sentence on Albanian language...

In case that you did not see my questions I repeated them here. Please be so kind to help us and write translation of above mentioned short sentence (“Muzaka na thotë se Vojsava ishte shqiptare nga familija e Muzakajve.”) on the Talk:Vojsava Tripalda--Antidiskriminator (talk) 08:55, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

I mentioned your username in my comment within this section--Antidiskriminator (talk) 21:18, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

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Skanderbeg

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Will you please be so kind to provide link to discussion and list of users that "refuted and extra section"?--Antidiskriminator (talk) 19:19, 16 May 2011 (UTC) --Antidiskriminator (talk) 11:15, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

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Will you please be so kind to point to the "RSN refuted sources" used in the extra section I added? Also, please provide a link to the RSN which "refuted" those sources?--Antidiskriminator (talk) 12:51, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

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ZjarriRrethues, why are you again introducing Benjamin D'Israeli in our discussion although I explained that he did not write any of the works I used in above mentioned section?--Antidiskriminator (talk) 21:54, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

Please check the list of your sources.--— ZjarriRrethues — talk 22:12, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

You have a message

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Could you help me a bit with Azem Hajdari, i think 95% is done for bringging it to GA (Review) --Vinie007 14:10, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

I am sorry

I noticed that there was discussion about "three users (Athenean (talk · contribs) and Alexikoua (talk · contribs) on the one side versus ZjarriRrethues (talk · contribs)" and understood that interaction ban is valid for all three mentioned users. I am terribly sorry.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 18:25, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

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Pretender?

I found this, which had even less information when I found it than it does now. Think you can expand it a bit? DS (talk) 14:44, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

A pretender indeed.--— ZjarriRrethues — talk 14:46, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

June 2011

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Ethnicity of the people

I assume you are interested in such topics. Could you follow this up? Karadjordje Petrovic, the leader of the First Serbian Uprising, was Albanian, and his name was Jin Maras Clement (Alb. Gjin Marash Kelmendi) (book "Karađorđević - hidden history.") It looks like this family is from Kelmendi catholics migrated in Serbia in 1737. Book link but no text. Ivo Banac book also there is another and another which show the relation with St. Clement (Kelmendi tribe) Aigest (talk) 08:56, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Ismail Ndroqi

Materialscientist (talk) 00:03, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Haki Stërmilli

Thanks for your contribution to free knowledge Victuallers (talk) 18:02, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Theodor Bua

Hi,

Just letting you know I started work on the Theodore Bua article. Kushtrim123 (talk) 18:58, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

I've created another article about Peter Bua.Kushtrim123 (talk) 21:18, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ilir Hoxha article userfied

You asked for it you got it Toyota. --Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:29, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Idea that may solve the issue

I started something that i never done before, but i like it already very, very much. As explained here, i started new draft on Vojsava Tripalda‎‎, with idea to create article, sentence by sentence. As article is quite small, we will easily add part by part, and create one good version that will be the best. Please, say to the talk page will you participate, as i would really give my best to help, compromise and do what ever is needed to finally, after one year of discussion, end this on the best way, friendly and calmly. I will do my best, and i hope that you will do that also. :) All best. --WhiteWriter speaks 22:14, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

I invited you to discussion and agreement. I hope that you will participate, as we MUST agree somehow, and that will be only trough discussion. Please, respond to my questions and proposal. Thanks. --WhiteWriter speaks 15:56, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
It is rude to ignore question and proposal. Please, write on talk page will you, or will you not participate in our creation of the neutral encyclopedic article that will replace this one. --WhiteWriter speaks 11:59, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
I can't contribute anything to a discussion that hasn't even started.--— ZjarriRrethues — talk 12:50, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
OK, we will slooowly move on, and i will invite you when we add some content... --WhiteWriter speaks 15:13, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

Illyrians map

Hi I note dyour discussion on Illyrian maps with Alexi. I have created one which captures more of the actual tribes, and is better sourced. We just need to watch user A "Macedonian" with his consistnet disruptive edits which are clearly tenditious and nationalistic Slovenski Volk (talk) 01:33, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Serbian monarchs

Hmmm, it's not really that bad. A "monarch" doesn't have to be "king", and as for nationality, none of the Kings of Greece had a drop of Greek blood, but you can still call them "Greek kings". I agree that for accuracy, it should probably be renamed to "List of rulers of Serbia" or something, along the lines of similar lists. However, then it also would mean that it should include the Ottoman governors, the Kings and Presidents of Yugoslavia/Serbia up to today. Otherwise the presence of the Byzantine governors is odd indeed. Constantine ✍ 06:46, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Wright Challenge map - Serb?

See here Where are you?...approximately? We now have 45 editors and some recent additions in French and Estonian. Victuallers (talk) 22:11, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

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DYK for O moj Shqypni

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Template

What's the template that was used about Arbereshe? I was thinking about using the same about Arvanites. --Kushtrim123 (talk) 20:55, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

It's Template:Navbox, which is very generic. Btw I'd first add the sources on the articles before adding any settlements to the template.--— ZjarriRrethues — talk 21:01, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
I will find them gradually.--Kushtrim123 (talk) 21:06, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Martin Camaj

—HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 00:03, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Albanian Congress of Trieste

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DYK for Sotir Kolea

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Template

Where's the userspace that's used as a prep area for articles(arvanites template)? It's high time we started it.--Kushtrim123 (talk) 20:52, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

I don't think so, because these IP schemes are tiresome, however, I may start it by myself after I start some articles.--— ZjarriRrethues — talk 20:57, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
What IP schemes?--Kushtrim123 (talk) 21:03, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
Your comment is a complete letdown and btw I've found and reported many people doing what you did.--— ZjarriRrethues — talk 21:16, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Demographics of Montenegro

Yeah, I was going to update them but I haven't had enough time to do so lately, I will try doing it as soon as possible, no problem. Sideshow Bob 11:18, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Battle of Drashovica

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DYK for Selman Riza

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Can you read?

read this... --Bachusbreak (talk) 13:45, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

Talk page guidelines

About discussions, it seems you need to follow Wikipedia:TALKNEW#New_topics_and_headings_on_talk_pages (Never address other users in a heading). So I kindly ask you to change the section title you placed in P. Bitzilis [[3]] into an appropriate one.Alexikoua (talk) 01:03, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

The username was removed.--— ZjarriRrethues — talk 01:07, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Vojsava Tripalda

I mentioned you here.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 21:41, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

Durrës County (Kingdom of Serbia)

If possible, please provide some input at Talk: Durrës County (Kingdom of Serbia), regarding the dispute that was ongoing until I full protected the article. Qwyrxian (talk) 00:29, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

Edit warring

An edit war occurs when editors who disagree about the content of a page repeatedly override each other's contributions [4].

Will you please explain why did you left a message about edit warring to my talk page and not on the talk page of the editor (Aigest) who failed to follow the recommendation of uninvolved editor who is also administrator?--Antidiskriminator (talk) 22:03, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

Aigest has made one edit that can be remotely considered as a partial revert, while most reverts in that article are yours, so I had to leave that message on your talkpage and let you know about your reverts without having to start a topic at ANI about them.--— ZjarriRrethues — talk 22:08, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
I've been invited here by Antid, but I am having hard time understanding what for. Could someone explain me what is this about? Aigest (talk) 07:25, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Don't template the regulars.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 23:13, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

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Move

Hi, ZjarriRrethues. Please stop to "original" edits without reliable sources. Thank you. Takabeg (talk) 09:32, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Takabeg I'll start a move discussion and then we'll deal with it.--— ZjarriRrethues — talk 09:33, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
P.S. The title of Kararname was newly changed with consensus. I hope you can understand this. Takabeg (talk) 09:34, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

stop

reverting my edits by hoping i'm someone else. that's not a valid reason. if you don't have competence perhaps it's good to leave this stuff and do your kachak business. i can say that you are a sock of leke dukagjini but that doesn't give me the right do reverts without explanation. 79.125.227.60 (talk) 22:18, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

Ignored question

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Skedenberg

I noticed that you rejected user:94.69.233.119 I find it important to mention it (lang-el) wherever Skedenberg's actions took place ; Greek land, Despotate of Epirus and a whole area and period. I aslo find reliable source the "Dictionarium Latino Epiroticum", Fransiscus Blanchus about his name coming, so id like a serious explaination for what reason opium was reverted. --Axhell B2 (talk) 18:55, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

Indef blocked users shouldn't create new accounts.--— ZjarriRrethues — talk 12:56, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

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Vojsava Tripalda

Hello! I just wanted to inform you that we should finish the work we started. Article Vojsava Tripalda, with numerous problematic parts, are recreated so far by lede and one section, so i ask you what should we do next? Lets finish this.

Thanks for you great contribution so far. --WhiteWriter speaks 15:28, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

Revert

Thank you, please keep in mind that you should explain your reverts, like you did to me, as none can know that IP is sock, as it is not blocked nor accused. --WhiteWriter speaks 08:32, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

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Hapi lajmet kane humbur fierin dhe mbajne tani vetem gjirokastra. Edhe sot Rama foli per humbjet ne qarket me delegatet.... --Vinie007 18:56, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

Notesenses etc.

Hi ZjarriRrethues - I saw your note on FP's talkpage. I'm not familiar with Notesenses... Does this new account Operdonoricums (talk · contribs) fit his editing patterns? Kafka Liz (talk) 18:19, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

Maybe, but only a CU edit will verify his identity, unless he makes any edits that'll link the two accounts in a more obvious manner.--— ZjarriRrethues — talk 18:31, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
I'll investigate further this evening and see if it's warranted. Thanks for taking a look. Kafka Liz (talk) 18:42, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

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Re: Stojan Janković

To report edit warring, please use Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 15:47, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

Hi, i'm feeling outside your discussion about Stojan Janković, the main source of the article is the only extensive work about the person, Bosko Desnica's Stojan Jankovic i uskocka Dalmacija. -Berber, S. 2004, "Istorijski podaci o uskočkom serdaru Stojanu Jankoviću", Norma, vol. 10, no. 1-2, pp. 151-161.- is a collection of all sources of him. It claims Stojan as a leader of "Dalmatian Serbs" in the service of the Republic of Venice; furthermore none of the contemporary sources claim Stojan as Croat, but describes him as leader of the Morlach army, and being Serbian Orthodox. The name Morlachs was attributed to a community in the Dalmatian hinterlands (in Venetian proximity), and has never been used by the community described itself, but "in the eyes of the beholder"; In Venetian sources, "Morlachs" (Orthodox) were differentiated by "Croats" (Catholic), and all contemporary sources about their (Morlachs) tongue claim it as "Serbian" (in minor cases "Illyrian", i.e. Western South Slavic, or "Illyrian-Serbian"), instead of "Croatian". Stojan has a significant hero-status in Serbian history, and is richly attested in Serb epic poetry. Is there anything specific that you object with the data? --Zoupan (talk) 19:47, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

Zelenaši

Please stop your disruptive tendentious editing in articles connected with Serbs in Montenegro. In many articles you attributed Montenegrin ethnicity to all tribes supporting Zelenaši based on your original research. Please don't do it anymore and correct your mistakes. Here you can check the source which explains that Zelenasi identified themselves as Serbs (Posebno je zanimljivo da su se i »zelenaši«,...., nacionalno smatrali Srbima" [it is especially interesting that Zelenaši too declared themselves as Serbs]). This source is written by the author whose work you already used in article editing and I guess you do not dispute its reliability. --Antidiskriminator (talk) 10:16, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

On Albanian images of the 1940's-80's

I asked this question to two other editors, but would you say that 1940's-80's Albanian books published by the state-owned 8 Nëntori Publishing House are, more or less, free of copyrights? I'd like to include their photos and such (they made a lot of coffee table books) in some articles. --Mrdie (talk) 07:55, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

Transcriptions

Zjarri, many thinks for the information you have left on the Administrator section opened by Majuru. Believe it or not, I've been seeking for the policy for a long time and have found nothing and therefore everything I have done has been down to agreements made with other users down the years. With most of the challenges being petty removals by IPs coupled with either a blank summary or a sarky comment (he is Albanian not Serb), it's never been a hard task reverting.

The way I have reasoned until now is this: we introduce an subject (ie. a person) when he is notable; notable generates all sorts of spellings of the individual's name when publications are made throughout various countries. To that end, it is almost certain that a Serbian/Serbo-Croat source using their own name can be found. The English media on the other hand would not generally deploy diacritics nor variant spellings of one whose name has been fossilised into English - yet foreign alphabets, transliterations and other forms still grace the ledes. So there is no question of alternative forms existing, the leading question is - when do we need them?

At this moment, I feel Rita Ora probably doesn't. She was born in Kosovo (SFRY time) but was weeks old when she left the country to live in Britain and has not been involved with her parents' land in any way other than private (visits to relatives, etc.). Clearly being from Yugoslavia has no relevance to what she is. I would never insert the Serbian name of one of Kosovan Albanian origin born in Switzerland and Rita's situation is very similar. No schooling was attended in Serbian and she probably doesn't speak it. It is as if she were born in Britain.

On the opposite angle, we have Emina Cunmulaj. Believe it or not, I was the one who inserted her Albanian name. There is no double-standard with me I promise you! Her Montenegrin name form was placed because she moved there when she was young and went to school there, rather like someone who was born there. Now of the two, I would favour its inclusion with Cunmulaj but not Rita Ora.

Please note also Zjarri that policy is universal - not just for the former Yugoslavia. Ramzan Kadyrov has his name in both relevant scripts. I added Chechen but had Majuru been from the Caucasus, he'd have objected to its Russian form which existed before my addition. It may be argued that he is part of Russia's governing system but his father Akhmad definitely wasn't, hence the assassination. The name is given in Russian based on his birthplace national language (not so much Soviet Union, but the Russian SSR itself). Serbian names feature with the Hungarians of Vojvodina; Macedonian is applied to all subjects born there and some people are even primarily presented in Macedonian/Serbian despite their ethnic names being different. Now if we streamline, how do we go about it? I'd like to know the best solution. Thanks Zjarri. Evlekis (Евлекис) (argue) 12:37, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

Use the names that appear in the sources and as an alternative add the name in the person's mother tongue.--— ZjarriRrethues — talk 19:20, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
That would mean never use an external name for anybody - English if it has one followed by native name, or native name on its own if English sources use that form. Wikipedia is not like that though and there is more to the style. Evlekis (Евлекис) (argue) 22:47, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

Sanjak of Ohrid

I noticed your remarks on the draft of the text of the article I wrote on my userpage. I plan to comment them as soon as I finish preparation of the article about this sanjak. All the best.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 18:14, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

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Sanjak of Ohrid

Please find below my reply to your two comments:

  • I find all your claims and hints incorrect, except the one about Ohrid having status of kaza instead of sanjak in 1913. I provided inline citations from many sources for every assertion of the article. I could provide multiple citations for all of them, but that would be Wikipedia:Citation overkill. You are free to review the text of the article (Sanjak of Ohrid) and if you can provide other sources which directly support different information, please do so on article's talk page. I hope it will not be too much for me to politely ask you for help with adding the name on Albanian language?--Antidiskriminator (talk) 20:48, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

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Userpage drafts

Why did you create articles

which drafts I was preparing on my userpage?

?--Antidiskriminator (talk) 11:01, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

I started writing Spani family before you started your draft (I had already written Alessio Span by that time) and I haven't written Peter Spani (voivode), the one you're trying to write on your userspace. You haven't noticed it but the Pjetër Spani, who was a member of the League of Lezhë wasn't the Pjetër Spani, who was a voivode in Novoberdë. The League of Lezhë member had a son named Mark, while the voivode had three sons named Alexius, Bozidar and Hrvoje. That being said the voivode couldn't have been a member of the League of Lezhë because he was too young when it was formed. Feel free to copy the origins parts from Alessio Span as they are written in a much more concise manner. Btw I'll be writing the bishop and the League of Lezhë member bios, so you can continue working on the voivode.--— ZjarriRrethues — talk11:15, 21 January 2012 (UTC) --— ZjarriRrethues — talk11:09, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
Everything you wrote to justify your actions is incorrect.
First, you did not start writing Spani family before I started my draft:
  • diff when you created your article: at 00:52, 21 January 2012.
  • diff when I created at 23:38, 20 January 2012 draft on my userpage.
Second, it is not voivode Petar Span I wrote draft about. I started to write draft of an article about Petar Span who was one of noblemen who allied themselves into League of Lezhë at 19:27, 20 January 2012 which is at 08:45, 21 January 2012. more than 12 hours before you created this page diff
What you do is another incivility. Only one in a row. If nobody stops you I am afraid it will not be the last one because you continued your behaviour although you are warned not to engage in further:"ethno-nationalist tendentious editing, misrepresenting sources and incivility or personal attacks" when administrator made conclusion about your disruptive behaviour which included incivility (to me also, which is explained under sectionThese comments are incivil:).
Your deletion of my message and your demand not to edit your talkpage can be seen by someone as an attempt to "avoid administrator attention by demanding your talk page is not posted to". I find your demand strange, taking in consideration that you don't restrict yourself from editing my talk page to which you are one of major contributors, even using it to post your messages about the drafts of articles I am preparing on my talk page (diff[5]). This messages prove that your actions were not coincidence and that you carefully follow me and my editing of article drafts on my userpage.
Will you please be so kind not to create articles which drafts I am preparing on my user page.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 12:46, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

Siege of Krujë (1466)

I looked through the Siege of Krujë (1466) article and your review of it, and (though strictly speaking it's not my business) I wanted to ask for your opinion on the last paragraph of the article. It describes the reception of the victory between Albanians and Venetians, but it lacks any info about the reception of the loss in Ottoman Empire. The balance of forces was suggesting the Ottoman victory, so the loss should have had some reaction within the country. Do you know, is it an article's shortcoming or a lack of information availability? — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk) 02:42, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

There's a definite lack of information. Although there were contemporary Ottoman historiographers none of them wrote in a scientific manner and most of their works are of a panegyric nature towards Mehmed II i.e. they certainly don't mention public reactions to defeats.--— ZjarriRrethues — talk 18:10, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
Thanks, it was what I thought to be the case. — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk) 23:04, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

Partition of Albania

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Please see

As you participated in discusion before, please see here the last proposition. Thanks! --WhiteWriter speaks 22:13, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Bravo, i just wanted to do that! :) --WhiteWriter speaks 22:58, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:University of Pristina#The current standing. — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk) 13:13, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Please comment again on Talk:University of Pristina#The current standing. As I can tell from the situation, we have no chance to solve this problem without RfC with uninvovled people only. — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk) 12:16, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

Please comment in Talk:University of Pristina#Break ASAP! — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk) 16:55, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! Meanwhile you might want to start a userspace draft of University of Pristina (in Pristina) article. It would be nice to have something viable after the split. You may also want to cooperate with other editors involved in Talk:University of Pristina debate on your side. — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk) 00:23, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
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