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Your submission at Articles for creation: Oruaiti Chapel (November 23)

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This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject. Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

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Re: Draft:Arthur's Stone, Kerikeri

Hello Zoohistorian I have added projects New Zealand, Geography, to your article. You may wish to join them, check their to-do, and meet new people with interest in these topics. ( To reply click "edit" next to this section, and add your reply at the end. ) Cheers, --Gryllida (talk) 03:06, 6 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Arthur's Stone, Kerikeri (December 10)

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A page you started (Matakohe Post Office) has been reviewed!

Thanks for creating Matakohe Post Office.

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An interesting article, it would be nice to have more detailed information on the exhibits it has and its current use as a museum. Thanks for the contribution!

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Arthur's Stone, Kerikeri has been accepted

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You may want to consider defining Pakeha in the article, as most readers will likely be unfamiliar with the term.

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Central Hotel, Dargaville (January 6)

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Just needs a bit of secondary coverage and should be good to go! I'd also suggest potentially including an infobox, but that's not relevant for the review.

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Turnagra (talk) 23:18, 6 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I have to say I'm rather surprised given my others have been accepted with far less citations and sourcing. Sorry I don't know how to do an info box at this stage and my citations are more than reliable they're solid robust sources. So I'm rather at a loss on this as to 'why' it's not accepted. Thanks anyway. Zoohistorian (talk) 02:33, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry - I'm still getting my head around the process and have been erring on the side of caution a bit! It's a great article don't get me wrong, but the key thing for me was that all but one of the sources are primary sources from old newspapers. Ideally we need some secondary sources talking about the subject too, just to get that side of things covered. I'm happy to whip up an infobox if you want - my go-to is to find an article about a similar thing {eg. Public Trust Building) and just sort of copy over what they've done.

Don't get me wrong though, I think it's a great article and it's very nearly there - just needs that final little bit I think! Turnagra (talk) 03:44, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The point is I'm using secondary sources aka old newspapers.Primary sources are things like land titles, primary documentation such as first-hand accounts, letters etc. We're talking history here so it's impossible to cite other sources because they don't exist. Yes I know I sound a bit sniffy but my point is 'what' other sources would you like me to consult? I'm a historian and to historians past news is always secondary source not primary.Yes please re info box. Cheers Zoohistorian (talk) 04:37, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

That's a fair point, along with the heritage listing. I had in my mind things like books / academic writing, but that may be difficult I suppose. At any rate, I've undone my decline which puts it back in the draft pool in the hope that someone else with a bit more experience in the AfC process takes a look. Sorry again about this, I do think the articles you've done are great but was just wanting to make sure they're on the mark and stand the best chance of getting through the hoops wikipedia throws around! Since I won't be the reviewer, I'll get the infobox sorted now and then you'll hopefully be able to use that as a basis for the other articles you work on. Turnagra (talk) 07:20, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I do appreciate your feedback and suggestions. It's a hard one I know. A lot of publications relating to local history sadly are either out of print and hard to access or no longer are accessible at all. Thank you for your compliments and help. Hopefully I can find other sources but chances for this site are next to zero. Thanks for your time it's highly appreciated. Zoohistorian (talk) 08:05, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I've taken a stab at the infobox - there are a bunch of parameters but don't feel as though they all have to be filled out, since the same template (and even more parameters) is used for all buildings on wikipedia. You can check out Template:infobox building for more info and guidance on how to use it.

As an aside, I think the addition of the architecture section and KDC link is the sort of stuff which helps, though I would suggest rewording that section a bit. At the moment, the wording is very close to what was used by the council, which risks a copyright issue kicking up when the article gets reviewed. Turnagra (talk) 19:00, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your help. Yes it was a bit of a hard one that re the architecture. I'll rewrite it. It's also kind of awkwardly written too now I think about it. Appreciate your feedback every bit helps. Zoohistorian (talk) 20:08, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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