Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/Addbot 17

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Addbot Task 17[edit]

Operator: ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!}

Automatic or Manually Assisted: Automatic

Programming Language(s): AWB

Function Overview: General fixes, Replaces tagging and what not (Expansion of previous AWB BRFA)

Edit period(s): Continuous

Already has a bot flag (Y/N): Y

Function Details: Doing small tasks on articles from DB dumps using AWB:

Removing Stub Tags on articles that are now larger than stubs
Adding and dating maintanence tags where needed (Already have a brfa for this just not from DB Dumps)
Applying other "General Fixes" Through AWB where appropriate (only when something else is being changed)
Re-ordering sections such as references categorys and notes where needed.
Unicodifying the article
Correcting capitalisation in section headings

Discussion[edit]

Just a couple of quick questions:

Will the bot simply be running through all articles, or only certain categories/sets where cleanup has been requested (not really important, more just curiosity)?
Will the bot wait if {{inuse}} is on a page before adding cleanup tags? Richard ⁰⁶¹² 13:58, 16 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

One other question: what criteria do you use to decide whether to remove a stub tag? --R'n'B (call me Russ) 14:49, 16 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The bot will be looking through selected cats, and lists from DB dumps. The "general cleanup / fixes" part will only save if something else is also being saved. If the page has an inuse template on it the bot will skip it. I think thats all you asked for :) ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 17:04, 16 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Just curious, Isnt General fixes AWB Bot BFRAs denied earlier like this Wikipedia talk:Bots/Requests_for_approval/Archive_4#AWB_and_fixes, Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/Reedy Bot, Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/RefSpaceBot ?

Ofcourse, there have been instances of them being approved like Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/TaeBot, Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/Madhubot ! Some other questions?

Will "Skip if whitespace changes only" turned ON ?
Will it change "1990's" (etc.) to "1990s" (etc.) when General fixes turned on? Isnt this change have to manually checked ? There are definitely instances in which "1990's" is the correct spelling. For example: "1989's most successful athlete was Bo Diddly, while 1990's most successful athlete was Richard Nixon."
Will it fix spelling errors ? -- Tinu Cherian - 10:07, 17 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The bot Will skip if only whitespace is changed, I will not' fix spelling errors (due to the ammount of incorrect replaces it can make), The bot will still correct / try to correct dates as you pasted above. ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 17:16, 17 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

General fixes such as the date fixing mentioned above require manual oversight and aren't really appropriate for an automated bot. Richard ⁰⁶¹² 20:59, 17 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I would support this BRFA request, if AWB can make such changes (like date changes), which actually require manual oversight, optional. -- Tinu Cherian - 04:49, 18 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I should be able to stop the date changes through a custom module in AWB. ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 12:26, 19 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This ? Then it shouldnot be a problem -- Tinu Cherian - 11:04, 20 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes :) Well something very very similar. ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 11:05, 20 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

AFAIK, every bot request to do automated AWB general fixes on articles has been denied.

Removing Stub Tags on articles that are now larger than stubs

How does it define "larger than stubs"? bytecount? word count?

Adding and dating maintanence tags where needed (Already have a brfa for this just not from DB Dumps)

Which maintenance tags will it add and using what criteria?

Applying other "General Fixes" Through AWB where appropriate (only when something else is being changed)

These are generally not appropriate for an unsupervised bot.

Correcting capitalisation in section headings

This is on the same level as spelling fixes, not really appropriate for a bot, unless it can tell whether a word is a proper noun or not.

Also, the most recent DB dump is 4 months old, I presume it will detect if changes need to be made by looking at the DB dump, but getting the current version to actually make the changes on? Mr.Z-man 20:16, 21 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Withdrawn by operator. ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 08:21, 22 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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