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Dneo bot[edit]

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Operator: Neo the Twin (talk · contribs · SUL · edit count · logs · page moves · block log · rights log · ANI search)

Time filed: 12:52, Sunday, March 6, 2022 (UTC)

Function overview: The bot will be of use of updating date formats and country English as per countries format.

Automatic, Supervised, or Manual: Supervised

Programming language(s): Java

Source code available:

Links to relevant discussions (where appropriate):

Edit period(s): continously

Estimated number of pages affected: 12000

Namespace(s): Article space & Draft space

Exclusion compliant (Yes/No): No

Function details: The bot will automatically place the {{Use mdy dates}} and {{Use dmy dates}} templates as well as the country English i.e {{Use South African English}} and {{Use American English}}. The bot will only operate only on articles and not user pages or pages tagged with {{Bot}} template.

Discussion[edit]

Lately I came across a lot of American based articles with the date format of {{Use dmy dates}}, which marked the day first and month after, which is not adequate as America use month first. It would also be adequate if it was specified which type of English ({{Use South African English}}) is required for a certain article per country.

  • How will it be determined which tag(s) are appropriate for a particular article? Nikkimaria (talk) 13:51, 6 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nikkimaria, the bot will detect articles in need of tag(s), when a certain article has been tagged with {{Use American English}} template it will add the date format {{Use mdy dates}}. For the type of English per country it will detect the basement of an article, i.e "Lil Wayne is an American rapper", Nasty C is a South African recording artist", thus the bot will known which tag to place for which article. Neo the Twin (talk) 14:55, 6 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: This task seems like it would have CONTEXTBOT problems. FWIW, this proposed bot operator has 1,500 total edits. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:56, 6 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Agreed, and the comment immediately above by the operator does not give me much confidence that they'll be able to overcome it. Primefac (talk) 15:08, 6 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    If a good idea is proposed does the edit count really matter? I've been around for some time and to realize that this bot would be appropriate should mean something concerning my wiki experience. A trial would be appreciated at this point. Neo the Twin (talk) 15:13, 6 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes, the edit count does in fact matter. Bot operators are expected to have a strong grasp on the English Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, demonstrated by a solid editing record. While 1500 edits could be enough for that, your thinking this bot task is a good idea does not encourage me. Anomie⚔ 17:30, 6 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Denied. This does not seem like a good task for a bot. WP:ENGVAR is a tricky area with a number of caveats, making it prime WP:CONTEXTBOT territory. ENGVAR changes need to be specifically discussed, probably for each individual article, not imposed by a bot with a vague remit. To be approved, a bot along these lines would have to have a specific list of articles it would be changing and that list would have to already have been the subject of a well-attended discussion. Anomie⚔ 17:30, 6 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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