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China[edit]

List of battles in Kinmen[edit]

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Similarly to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of battles in Penghu, I don't see the reason why this would be its own article, as opposed to the conflicts being covered in the Kinmen article (where they are already covered). toweli (talk) 07:59, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Agree with nom. WP:SALAT and WP:NOTDIRECTORY per previous discussion. —Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 10:42, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Agree with nom. Unneeded content fork, and WP:NOTDIRECTORY. Kierzek (talk) 15:05, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: as a sort of set index page. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 16:04, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete No need of this index. Zakaria ښه راغلاست (talk) 11:19, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Xi Jinping–Li Keqiang Administration[edit]

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already have Li Keqiang Government & China under Xi Jinping Coddlebean (talk) 08:59, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy Keep: WP:CSK#3. Those three articles are obviously about different topics. Li Keqiang Government refers only to the composition of the State Council of the People's Republic of China after the 12th (2013-2018) and 13th (2018-2023) National People's Congress. China under Xi Jinping covers the socio-political governance and influence of China during Xi's chairmanship, which extends past 2023 as Xi remains Chairman after the 14th National People's Congress. The subject article is about the Fifth Generations of Chinese leadership, which is a common term coined for categorizing distinct periods of communist leaderships and inherited from the Hu–Wen Administration. In other words, the article is about political institutions of China during the combined rule of Xi and Li from the period 2013-2023, which discusses the distribution and swift of power between Xi and Li during their governance. A simple BEFORE already shows the broad usage and actual meaning of this term, and the nominator (once again) did not provide a deletion rationale grounded in Wikipedia guidelines. —Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 13:47, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy keep: as above. Cocobb8 (💬 talk • ✏️ contribs) 14:21, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy Keep per Prince of Erebor. Agree that WP:CSK#3 applies. Sal2100 (talk) 18:57, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - Li Keqiang Government is the Central People's Government of China from 15 March 2013, when Premier Li Keqiang took office, until March 2023, while Xi Jinping–Li Keqiang Administration is the administration of China from 2013 to 2023. Both articles list the State Council members, and do little else; it's not obvious that the articles should not be merged. (I agree that China under Xi Jinping is clearly very different). Walsh90210 (talk) 01:39, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Walsh90210: Not really, they are quite distinctive. The key difference is that the subject article includes details about the distribution of power between Xi and Li, which Li Keqiang Government would and should not cover. Another distinction is that the discussion/analysis of this term usually focuses on the power shift from a more equally distributed structure to one more heavily leaning towards Xi, as well as the conflicts between Xi and Li's policies and governance. This is clearly differentiated from Li Keqiang government again, which solely covers the administrative structure of the State Council. Rather than a merge, this article requires an expansion. —Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 05:55, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No.3 Middle School Of Lingshan[edit]

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Pure vandalism, cross-wiki abuse, the article with the same name in Chinese Wikipedia was deleted by a sysop. Allervous (talk) 02:00, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: Thank you for reporting this, Allervous (talk · contribs). Here are the sources listed in the article:
1. Website: https://lcsz.pages.dev/
2. "立志存高远腾龙震乾坤_科教文体_校园天地_今日广西". 广西新闻. 2024-03-24. Retrieved 2024-06-10.
3. "寻找灵山"最美中学"，老乡们快来看看有你的母校吗?_办学". www.sohu.com. Retrieved 2024-06-21.
4. 倪峥 (2023). 学校德育制度变迁研究 - 以广西某中学为例. 福建: 福建教育出版社. ISBN 9787533496418.
5. 中共广西壮族自治区委员会党史研究室 (2021). 中国共产党广西历史. 中共党史出版社. ISBN 9787509857328.
6. 施丹宁 (2023). 从传统到现代：广西教育的转型与创新. 广西教育出版社. ISBN 9787543538474.
7. "灵城第三中学官网". 灵城第三中学官网. Retrieved 2024-06-22.
8. 刘世济. 广西教育的军事化管理研究与参考. 广西: 广西教育出版社. pp. 11–12. ISBN 9787543546578.
Cunard (talk) 11:02, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: The creator, zh:Special:Contributions/鸡景行, was blocked on the Chinese Wikipedia for "純粹破壞：屢次增加沒有來源的不實資料：見用戶提報。製造不實資訊：靈山縣靈城第三中學。並非在此建設百科全書。" This is translated to "Pure destruction: repeatedly adding false information without sources: see user reports. Producing false information: Lingcheng No. 3 Middle School in Lingshan County. This is not the place to build an encyclopedia."

The block discussion is here. Here is a Google Translate of that discussion:

Extended content

鸡景行

鸡景行 (Discussion · Contributions · Log [Ban · Filter] · Global Account Information)

Just making it up.

The school’s official website is suspected to be a website built by the editor.
The school emblem and school song are suspected to be composed by the editor. The entry states that the school song from 2024 will be "People from No. 3 Middle School Pursuing the Other Sun" and the audio file is uploaded. However, according to [1], the school song in March 2024 will be "Brilliant Talents Grow in Lixiang".
The chapter "School History" is completely inconsistent with [2] "Lingcheng No. 3 Middle School was founded in November 2001 and was renamed Lingshan County Lingcheng No. 3 Middle School in December 2011."
The school motto "Inspiring students to study hard and pursue excellence" should be "Study diligently and achieve excellence" ([3]), and the philosophy "Let students be admitted to good high schools and make students become obedient and good children" should be "education with ideals" To realize the ideal of education” ([4])
"Internet Censorship" is an entire chapter of original research and fictitious reference materials. The ISBN of "Research and Reference on the Militarized Management of Education in Guangxi" is found to be a Chinese textbook for the first volume of ninth grade.
User:鸡景行 also translated the entries into English Wiki and Cantonese Wiki.

Discovered by: Kcx36 (Message) 17:08, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

zh:Special:Diff/82824332/83166384, suspected to be imitating Zhemao. --Kcx36 (Message) 17:13, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

Cantonese Wikipedia may also have to assist in the cleanup - Qiancun Foxtu (leave a message) 23:27, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

Cross-wiki vandalism, I have deleted the disruptive content from the English Wikipedia, and I recommend that the user be submitted to a global lockout. --Allervous Hatsune MikuのセーラーServer 02:05, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

zh:User:鸡景行/钟娟章, seems to be pranking his teacher. --Kcx36 (Message) 17:16, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

pages.dev is Cloudflare Pages. It is hard to believe that this is the official website of the school. --HeihaHeihaHa-Muggle... (Message) 17:17, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

Cunard (talk) 11:02, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: In these edits, the article creator gave a barnstar to User:折毛, who was blocked for the hoaxes described in the Wikipedia article Zhemao hoaxes and was the subject of this declined arbitration case request in 2022. Cunard (talk) 11:02, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per the analysis I posted above. This editor gave a barnstar to an editor who created numerous hoaxes (Zhemao hoaxes and Wikipedia:Fabricated articles and hoaxes of Russia in 2022) after creating an English Wikipedia article that was deleted on the Chinese Wikipedia for being a hoax. Delete per Wikipedia:Do not create hoaxes and Wikipedia:Vandalism#Hoaxing vandalism. Cunard (talk) 11:02, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I started Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#User:鸡景行 and suspected hoax article. Cunard (talk) 11:16, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: A school with the name "灵山县灵城第三中学" (No.3 Middle School Of Lingshan) is mentioned here in The Paper and here on gxnu.edu.cn. The school likely exists though I've been able to find very little coverage of it. According to the Chinese Wikipedia editors' analysis, the article contains false information and fabricated sources. Cunard (talk) 11:45, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
According to your advice, I think the article should first be deleted and then re-created. Allervous (talk) 12:22, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, TNT, likely hoax. -Lemonaka 02:14, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, seems to be a hoax based on the page creator's block summary. The Wikipedia policy for hoaxes, per WP:G3, is to delete them (although you already know that) 24.115.255.37 (talk) 02:47, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tagged for deletion (G3) As it's pretty clear from evidence here that this is a hoax made by a Zhemao follower or something. I'm assuming there's consensus for deletion, and this hoax is pretty blatant, so let's not waste time here. ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 13:28, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Snow delete (I'd have speedied, but it was just declined). Clear hoax, if school is notable it can be re-created with legit sourcing and information. FWIW, if Cunard !votes Delete, there is no hope of salvaging an article's content and there's no one I know with better assessment of Chinese-language sourcing. Star Mississippi 22:18, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nowhere girls[edit]

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article is written to legitimize this term, making it seem its use is widespread. there isn't even a chinese wikipedia article about this term. search up "沒女", most results (and most sources in the article) are about the tv show 没女大翻身. ltb d l (talk) 08:53, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep for now: Could the nominator clarify what is the rationale for deletion? The Wen Wei Po, U Beauty, and the South China Morning Post sources currently in the article may not be the best, but already demonstrate that the term exists and is notable enough to pass GNG. In addition to these sources, a simple search has provided me with numerous other sources, including some Chinese sources that document the origin of this term (see Economic Daily[1] and The Sun[2]), how it spread to and became popular in Hong Kong (see Hong Kong Economic Journal[3], Wen Wei Po[4], and She.com [zh][5]), as well as the subsequent social influence and some recurring usages after it gained popularity (see BBC [6], Ming Pao[7], HK01 [8], and Oriental Daily News[9]). I have not yet looked for academic sources, but I have already come across two academic journal articles that cover this term when I was searching for media sources ([10] and [11]), so I do not believe academic sources would be difficult to locate either. :The fact that it does not currently have a respective article on the zhwiki means nothing, and it is clearly an argument of WP:OTHERSTUFFDOESNTEXIST. Most of the sources mention the TV show Nowhere Girl is understandable, because that show popularised the term. There are many other instances of the term being used, such as the drama series The No No Girl (全職沒女), the film Love Detective [zh] (沒女神探), and a non-fiction book 沒女要翻身 (lt. Nowhere Girls Need Changes) written by Queenie Chan [zh][12], where the English translation of the term may differ. So the claim that the term is only used in one particular TV show is false as well. Could the nominator please elaborate a bit more on the specific rationale being used for deletion? —Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 15:34, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per the excellent research by Prince of Erebor (talk · contribs), who has definitively shown that the topic passes Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline. Cunard (talk) 10:16, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Science Bulletin[edit]

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Not seeing how this journal meets WP:GNG or more specialized WP:Notability (academic journals). Does not seem indexed in anything significant: [13] (Engineering Source (EBSCO), MEDLINE (United States National Library of Medicine), zbMATH). _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 01:35, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. The article had the old ISSN and e-ISSN for Chinese Science Bulletin, which I have now replaced with the correct ones for Science Bulletin. https://miar.ub.edu/issn/2095-9273 shows that the journal is indexed in Science Citation Index Expanded (Clarivate) and Scopus (ELSEVIER) as well as Academic Search Ultimate (EBSCO), Natural Science Collection (ProQuest). Eastmain (talk • contribs) 02:21, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Eastmain It may be that Science Bulletin is notable, but which information in the article are about it and not about the Chinese Science Bulletin? What should be removed from the article - it has only one footnote to a press release currently. Zh wiki seems to have more, but right now our entry is asking for a WP:TNT, given the confusion. PS. Our article claims the publication was estabilished in 1956, zh wiki gives they year 1950, and there are many inconsistencies between en and zh. Language - for us, English, for zh, Chinese English (?). What is the publication relation to "Chinese Science Bulletin"? Zh wiki claims it is a former name, but miar has two different pages for it? It's a mess. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 11:32, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Piotrus If it helps, there is an article in Science Bulletin itself about the change of name: [14]. So, Science Bulletin was known as Chinese Science Bulletin until 2014. Regarding miar having two pages... if you're referring to the fact miar.ub.edu has a separate page for the title "Chinese Science Bulletin" (https://miar.ub.edu/issn/1001-6538), that would be because it has a different ISSN to the "Science Bulletin" title. So far as I'm aware, when serials are renamed they also get a new ISSN, so this seems pretty normal as far as I can tell.

The reason for the language confusion may be because there is also a Chinese-language version of the journal (科学通报 or "Kexue tongbao") with its own ISSN (which is documented on zh.wiki but not en.wiki). Chinese Science Bulletin aka Science Bulletin is the English-language version so far as I can tell. Monster Iestyn (talk) 13:42, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Monster Iestyn Thank you for looking into this. I was concerned that there may be another publication with the same name, not notable, that got merged into this article. If this is not the case, then I hope someone will try to untangle this and reference this - I agree the topic may be notable, but the current execution is terrible. Sure, WP:AFDNOTCLEANUP, but WP:TNT is a thing too. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 02:18, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Piotrus No problem, glad to help! Monster Iestyn (talk) 11:05, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.
1. Huang, Yanhong 黄延红; Yan, Bin 彭斌; Peng, Bing 彭斌; Zhu, Zuoyan 朱作言 (2019). "我国科技期刊改革实践与思考 ——以《中国科学》系列和《科学通报》期刊为例" [Reform practice and discussion of scientific journals in China: taking the Journals of Science China Series and Science Bulletin as examples]. 编辑学报 [Acta Editologica] (in Chinese). 31 (6): 638–640. doi:10.16811/j.cnki.1001-4314.2019.06.013. Archived from the original on 2024-06-25. Retrieved 2024-06-25.
  The abstract notes: "It is an important topic to speed up the construction of world-leading scientific journals. This paper explores a variety of publishing practices based on the journals of Science China Series and Science Bulletin, such as optimizing the content orientations, strengthening the sponsor’s policy support of Chinese Academy of Sciences, promoting the initiative of the scientisfs, and improving the academic quality. We also propose some successful suggestions on the construction of journal clustering, international cooperation and exchanges, the professional publishing team, and the digital development of media integration."
2. Fu, Li 付利 (2013-11-15). "专题策划提升科技期刊的品牌影响力— — 以《科学通报》（化学学科）为例" [Special topic planning to enhance the brand influence of scientific journals - taking "Science Bulletin" (chemistry discipline) as an example]. 出版科学 [Journal of Scientific Publication] (in Chinese). 21 (6): 32–35. doi:10.13363/j.publishingjournal.2013.06.015. Archived from the original on 2024-06-25. Retrieved 2024-06-25.
  The abstract notes: "By analyzing a number of special issues on chemistry published in Chinese Science Bulletin, this paper discussed the strategies and approaches of organizing special issues for scientific journals, including the following four aspects: 1) How to choose the topics? 2) What is the most effective editing procedure? 3) How to advertise and promote the special issues? 4) How to make more associated experts involved? Examples indicate that special issues play an important role in improving the academic quality and enhancing the influence of scientific journals."
There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Science Bulletin (simplified Chinese: 科学通报; traditional Chinese: 科學通報) to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".
Cunard (talk) 10:11, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep one of the older and most important/well read Chinese science journals in the West. Indexed in Scopus, easy pass of WP:NJOURNALS. We also cite it nearly 400 times on Wikipedia. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 22:14, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep‎. Closing as keep pet consensus. Sources are present in Chinese, which can be incorporated into the artcle. (non-admin closure) The Herald (Benison) (talk) 06:02, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

HAHAHAHAHA (Chinese TV series)[edit]

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TV series fails WP:GNG. GTrang (talk) 20:19, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment. This is a translation from zh wiki by a student. I am the supervising instructor but the student chose the topic without required consulations. I told them they need to add reviews and awards or that it will be deleted for lack of notability. I have no further comment except let's wait a few days and see if the student (or anyone else) rescuies it by adding sources to show notability (I concur they are lacking right now). --_{Piotrus at Hanyang| reply here} 05:08, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.
1. "《哈哈哈哈哈》有那么好笑吗？" [Is "Hahahahaha" that funny?]. The Paper (in Chinese). 2020-12-01. Archived from the original on 2024-06-25. Retrieved 2024-06-25.
  The article notes: "《哈哈哈哈哈》原本的立意是“半工半游”，即“公路旅行”+“体验素人职业”。明星的旅行，这在真人秀里太常见了；因此，《哈哈哈哈哈》的核心看点，是让“五哈”去体验底层工作的酸甜苦辣。但它现在的问题是，明星旅行真人秀占据主要篇幅，体验素人职业的过程仓促又潦草。这就让它的内容呈现与其他户外真人秀并没有明显差异。"
  From Google Translate: "The original concept of "Hahahahaha" was "half work, half travel", that is, "road trip" + "experience of amateur jobs". Celebrity travel is too common in reality shows; therefore, the core attraction of "Hahahahaha" is to let the "five Ha" experience the ups and downs of working at the grassroots level. But its current problem is that the celebrity travel reality show occupies the main part of the show, and the process of experiencing amateur jobs is hasty and sloppy. This makes its content presentation no different from other outdoor reality shows."
2. Yang, Guang 杨光 (2023-03-31). "《哈哈哈哈哈》第三季化身旅行种草机" [The third season of "Hahahahaha" turns into a travel recommendation machine] (in Chinese). Xinhua News Agency. Archived from the original on 2024-06-25. Retrieved 2024-06-25.
  The article notes: "目前《哈哈哈哈哈》第三季播到了第四期，受到广大网友的强烈关注，其中最精彩的环节非五哈团的接水游戏莫属了。为了能更深入地了解沈阳文化，东道主杜海涛带五哈团来沈阳洗浴中心体验当地洗浴文化，节目组为考验五哈团的默契，安排大家玩蒙眼接水游戏，却意外造就了这一季综艺之神N度降临、名场面频出的高能环节。"
  From Google Translate: "Currently, the third season of "Hahahahahaha" has reached its fourth episode, which has received strong attention from netizens. The most exciting part of it is the water catching game played by the Wuha Group. In order to have a deeper understanding of Shenyang culture, the host Du Haitao brought the Wuha group to Shenyang Bathing Center to experience the local bathing culture. In order to test the tacit understanding of the Wuha group, the program team arranged for everyone to play a blindfolded water-catching game, which unexpectedly created this season's variety show It is a high-energy session where the God of God comes for the Nth degree and famous scenes occur frequently."
3. Shen, Jiequn 沈杰群 (2024-03-25). Jiang, Xiaobin 蒋肖斌 (ed.). "《哈哈哈哈哈》第四季走出国门，以老挝为起点解锁广阔旅行地图" [The fourth season of "Hahahahaha" goes abroad and unlocks a vast travel map starting from Laos]. China Youth Daily (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 2024-06-25. Retrieved 2024-06-25.
  The article notes: "3月23日，旅行户外真人秀《哈哈哈哈哈》第四季正式开播。五哈团成员邓超、陈赫、鹿晗、王勉、范志毅、宝石Gem，在2024年走出国门，走向世界，解锁更大的旅行版图。"
  From Google Translate: "On March 23, the fourth season of the travel outdoor reality show "Hahahahaha" officially launched. The members of the Five Ha Group, Deng Chao, Chen He, Lu Han, Wang Mian, Fan Zhiyi, and Gem Gem, will go abroad in 2024, go global, and unlock a larger travel map."
4. Fu, Yuanyuan 傅圆媛 (2024-03-25). Peng, Simin 彭思敏 (ed.). "《哈哈哈哈哈》第四季五哈团走出国门，首站老挝团建笑点密集" [The fourth season of "Hahahahaha" has the five Hahaha group going abroad, and the first stop is Laos, with a lot of laughs]. Southern Metropolis Daily (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 2024-06-25. Retrieved 2024-06-25.
  The article notes: "首期，《五哈4》启程庆典在一座老旧汽修厂拉开序幕，尽管现场搭建拱门，铺设红毯，但看似精心的布置中也多少透露出了“亿”些些“草率”。而启程庆典帷幕落下瞬间，大波神秘黑衣人的追逐让五哈团瞬间惊吓到拔腿就跑四处“逃窜”。"
  From Google Translate: "In the first episode, the departure ceremony of "Wu Ha 4" kicked off in an old auto repair shop. Although an arch was built and a red carpet was laid on the scene, the seemingly careful arrangement also revealed a bit of "sloppiness". When the curtain of the departure ceremony fell, a large group of mysterious men in black chased the Wu Ha group and frightened them so much that they ran away."
5. "《哈哈哈哈哈》第三季今晚首播五哈团开启"天坑"东北行" [The third season of "Hahahahaha" premieres tonight. The five Hahaha groups start the "tiankeng" trip to Northeast China.]. China Youth Daily (in Chinese). 2023-03-03. Archived from the original on 2024-06-25. Retrieved 2024-06-25 – via Sina Corporation.
  The article notes: "区别于上一季的艰难旅行，《哈哈哈哈哈》第三季重新开启“美丽中国行”，在东北三省、福建福州等地体验当地生活，感受充满蓬勃生命力的人间烟火，传递坚强且乐观的精神力量。3月3日起，每周五晚8点准时锁定爱奇艺、腾讯视频，一起收看《哈哈哈哈哈》第三季，和五哈旅行团一起开启破冬奇遇记！"
  From Google Translate: "Different from the difficult journey of the previous season, the third season of "Hahahahaha" restarts the "Beautiful China Tour", experiencing local life in the three northeastern provinces and Fuzhou, Fujian, and other places, feeling the fireworks full of vigorous vitality, and conveying strong and optimistic spiritual power. Starting from March 3, lock in iQiyi and Tencent Video at 8 pm every Friday night to watch the third season of "Hahahahaha", and start the winter adventure with the Five Ha Travel Group!"
There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Hahahahaha (Chinese: 哈哈哈哈哈) to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".
Cunard (talk) 09:26, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: sources presented above indicate a certain notability, so that deletion does not seem necessary. Thanks, Cunard. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 13:09, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Qiu Shi Science and Technology Prize[edit]

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Article from 2012 tagged for speedy deletion 12 years later as unambiguous advertising (criterion G11). The article does contain some promotional language (e.g. "The Qiu Shi Foundation was named after the famous Qiu Shi Academy" and "Cha was best known for his industrial prowess, building a multinational textile conglomerate.") but this is mostly a stub article on a Chinese research prize where there are some examples of the awards being newsworthy, see e.g. [15]. However, while the awards have made it into some news articles, I am unable to determine the independence or reliability of these sources, and none of them are cited in the current article. The sources I have found are also much more about the person receiving the award than the award itself. While the promotional language is not severe enough for it to warrant a speedy deletion, I am bringing it to AFD and recommending delete. Sjakkalle (Check!) 07:08, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.
1. Shen, Alice (2018-09-17). "Science prizes put technological innovation at the heart of China's progress. Prestigious Hong Kong science foundation rewards the brightest and the best". South China Morning Post. Archived from the original on 2024-06-20. Retrieved 2024-06-20.
  The article notes: "A chemist from mainland China has won a major Hong Kong science prize for his leading global research in the field of bio-inspired nano-materials, highlighting China’s pledge to become an innovation hub in its own right. Jiang Lei received a grant of one million yuan (US$150,000) as winner of the Qiu Shi outstanding scientist award at a ceremony on Saturday night at the University of Science and Technology of China in Hefei, Anhui province. ... The prestigious Qiu Shi annual awards – qiu shi means “quest for truth” – was established by the late Hong Kong industrialist and philanthropist Cha Chi-ming, father of Payson Cha Mou-sing, in 1994 and features Nobel laureate Yang Zhenning on its judging panel. Previous Qiu Shi Award winners include Tu Youyou, who went on to receive the Nobel Prize in medicine for the discovery of artemisinin, saving millions of lives from malaria; Pan Jianwei, who later led the launch of the world’s first quantum satellite; and Zhang Yitang, who proved a theorem that had eluded mathematicians for more than a century. This year, in addition to the main prize, 12 outstanding young scientists were each awarded a US$90,000 grant, over three years, in recognition of their returning to China, with all their scientific potential, after overseas education or employment. ... This year, the number of recipients of the outstanding young scientist prize grew from 10 to 12, in line with the foundation’s aim of luring more talent back to China."
2. "People's Daily article". People's Daily. 2005. Retrieved 2024-06-20 – via Google Books.
  The article notes: "“求是杰出科学家奖”由香港求是科技基金会的设,这一基金会由查济民及其家族于 1994 年捐资 2000 万美元设立表基金会奖项其后每年评选颁发次,致力于奖励科技领域有成就的中国科技人才,努力推动国家科技进步,已累计奖励了包括“两弹元助"和"神舟五号功臣在内的数百位杰出科学家和 35 岁的潘建伟教授在量子信息论和量子基本问题等世界学术前沿领域取得的一系列开创性成果,"
  From Google Translate: "The "Qiushi Outstanding Scientist Award" was established by the Hong Kong Qiushi Science and Technology Foundation, which was established by Cha Jimin and his family in 1994 with a donation of US$20 million. Chinese scientific and technological talents who have made achievements in the field of science and technology have worked hard to promote national scientific and technological progress, and have accumulated awards to hundreds of outstanding scientists including the "Two Bomb Yuanzhu" and "Shenzhou 5 Heroes" and 35-year-old Professor Pan Jianwei for his research in quantum information theory and A series of pioneering achievements in the world's academic frontier fields such as fundamental quantum problems, ..."
3. Li, Lixia 李丽霞 (2019-09-22). Zhang, Yu 张玉 (ed.). "杨振宁获求是终身成就奖系史上第二位该奖得主" [Yang Zhenning wins Qiushi Lifetime Achievement Award, becoming the second winner in history]. The Beijing News (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 2024-06-20. Retrieved 2024-06-20 – via Sina Corporation.
  The article notes: "据悉，香港求是科技基金会1994年由著名爱国实业家査济民先生创立，秉持“雪中送炭”的宗旨，积极坚持和倡导“科学精神，人文情怀”的核心理念。1994至2019年，共有358位在数学、物理、化学、生物医学及工程信息等科技领域中有杰出成就的中国科学家获得基金会奖励。其中“求是终身成就奖”2位，“杰出科学家奖”31位、“杰出青年学者奖”192位、以及 “杰出科技成就集体奖” 133位（涉及16个重大科研项目，如青蒿素、人工合成牛胰岛素、塔里木盆地沙漠治理、铁基超导、神舟飞船等）。"
  From Google Translate: "It is reported that the Hong Kong Qiushi Science and Technology Foundation was founded in 1994 by Mr. Cha Jimin, a famous patriotic industrialist. Adhering to the purpose of "providing timely assistance", it actively adheres to and advocates the core concept of "scientific spirit and humanistic feelings". From 1994 to 2019, a total of 358 Chinese scientists with outstanding achievements in science and technology fields such as mathematics, physics, chemistry, biomedicine and engineering information received awards from the foundation. Among them, there are 2 "Qiushi Lifetime Achievement Awards", 31 "Outstanding Scientist Awards", 192 "Outstanding Young Scholar Awards", and 133 "Outstanding Scientific and Technological Achievement Group Awards" (involving 16 major scientific research projects, such as artemisinin, synthetic bovine insulin, Tarim Basin desert control, iron-based superconductors, Shenzhou spacecraft, etc.)."
4. Zhu, Lixin (2015-09-20). "TCM doctor receives 'grand award' from Qiu Shi foundation". China Daily. Archived from the original on 2024-06-20. Retrieved 2024-06-20.
  The article notes: "An 83-year-old Traditional Chinese Medicine doctor was among recipients of Hong Kong Qiu Shi Science and Technologies Foundation awards on Saturday. ... The Outstanding Scientific Research Team Award went to the Hepatitis E Vaccine team from Xiamen University，which invented the world’s first recombinant Hepatitis E Vaccine and made it available on the market in 2012. Ten other young scientists from seven universities and institutes received the Outstanding Young Scholar Award."
There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow the Qiu Shi Awards (simplified Chinese: 求是奖; traditional Chinese: 求是獎) to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".
Cunard (talk) 10:21, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: Cunard did a very thorough search of sources. However, I found the nominator's main concern is that many of the sources are about the award ceremonies and awardees, rather than the award itself. While the South China Morning Post and People's Daily sources provided by Cunard are indeed about the award itself, The Beijing News and China Daily sources seem to fall under what the nominator would consider as non-independent sources. Therefore, I found two additional sources from Guang Ming Daily[16] and Ta Kung Pao[17] which documented the founding of the award, and I believe these should be adequate to address the nominator's concerns. —Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 15:04, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Wang Toghtua Bukha[edit]

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Contested prod. Uncited. Celia Homeford (talk) 07:53, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Redirect per Cocobb8. Cannot find any sources on GBooks, Google (except for WP mirror content), Archive.org, or anywhere else that turns up any result at all for any of the romanization options given or Hangul/Hanja script provided. I doubt it's a WP:HOAX, but I think we can safely ~~delete~~ redirect if no sources to validate notability can be found 20 years since this article was created. Dclemens1971 (talk) 16:37, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Keep. I removed the PROD after finding plenty of sources on this individual especially in Korean. This is most likely due to the various different spellings of his name. Here in this Korean translation of the Goryeosa [1] published by the National Institute of Korean History he is listed as both "독타불화" and "톡타부카". Individual has Encyclopedia of Korean Culture article [2] as well as a Doosan Encyclopedia article [3] both listed as "왕독타불화". He also appears in Empire's Twilight: Northeast Asia under the Mongols by David M. Robinson as "Toqto'a-Buqa" as well as in Korea and the Fall of the Mongol Empire also by Robinson. ⁂CountHacker (talk) 17:06, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- CountHacker (talk · contribs), the link for the "Doosan Encyclopedia article" is malformed. Would you fix the link? Thank you. Cunard (talk) 11:04, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per above evidence. 104.232.119.107 (talk) 08:47, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
~~Delete~~: The sources found by CountHacker are mostly simple passing mentions and do not help in establishing WP:NBIO. Cocobb8 (💬 talk • ✏️ contribs) 15:08, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Changing vote: Redirect to Wang_Ko#Family as a WP:ATD. Cocobb8 (💬 talk • ✏️ contribs) 15:09, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Cocobb8, there are two Korean-language encyclopedia articles on this individual. That is not a passing mention. Not only that, he held the the office of Prince/King of Sim/Shen (various ways to translate it), which was a major office in Goryeo-Yuan politics, and had authority over the Koreans who lived in the Yuan-controlled Liaodong area. There were various attempts to place Wang Toqto'a-Buqa on the throne of Goryeo, he wasn't just a random noble prince, but an influential prince with power and influence, who nearly became king in at least two attempts.⁂CountHacker (talk) 16:41, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@CountHacker, encyclopedic articles are tertiary sources, so they cannot be used demonstrate notability, as GNG clearly states that sources should be secondary sources, as those provide the most objective evidence of notability. Also, kinds and princes are not inherently notable and must demonstrate their own notability per WP:NBIO. Cheers, Cocobb8 (💬 talk • ✏️ contribs) 17:36, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The policy Wikipedia:No original research#Primary, secondary and tertiary sources says: "Secondary or tertiary sources are needed to establish the topic's notability and avoid novel interpretations of primary sources." Tertiary sources can be used to establish notability.
The consensus at Wikipedia talk:Notability/Archive 73#Tertiary sources is that tertiary sources are perfectly fine in establishing notability. Editors cited the policy Wikipedia:No original research#Primary, secondary and tertiary sources, which reflects this already. Cunard (talk) 11:04, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per the significant coverage in reliable sources found by CountHacker (talk · contribs). The subject meets Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline. Cunard (talk) 11:04, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per sources presented above. Other encyclopedias having an entry is a good sign we should as well. PARAKANYAA (talk) 14:43, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Obvious keep, clearly passes GNG per CountHacker's sources, and the two encyclopedia's entries alone are more than enough to establish notability. The redirect comments should be disregarded, the first one (we can safely ~~delete~~ redirect if no sources to validate notability can be found) is pure nonsense: it would had made sense as long as sources had not been provided, but changing the delete vote to redirect after sourcing has been provided just leaves a contradictory and illogical rationale. The second one, claiming that individual entries on established encyclopedias such as Encyclopedia of Korean Culture and Doosan Encyclopedia do not count towards notability, is just a WP:CIR issue and a WP:COMMONSENSE failure. --Cavarrone 08:15, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per sources above. —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 13:42, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2024 official visit by Shehbaz Sharif to China[edit]

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WP:NOTNEWS. WP considers the enduring notability of events and its WP:TOOSOON to determine enduring historical significance or widespread impact of this visit. Saqib (talk) 20:38, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. The content of this articles meets the criteria for inclusion and meet WP:N. The remover Saqib WP:POINT, did not communicate directly with the creator (me) about how to "improve" this articles. Instead, after I continued to add numerous reliable sources, Saqib decided to simply delete it, which also violates WP:FAITH. --TinaLees-Jones (talk) 23:26, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- TinaLees-Jones, But the problem here is that the article just doesn't meet the WP:N. It's not about needing improvement; it's about meeting the criteria for inclusion on WP. And just so you know, I don't need anyone's permission to nominate articles for deletion. Still, I do want to acknowledge the effort you've put into creating this article. — Saqib (talk) 06:42, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  - User:Saqib: the first thing that needs to be emphasized is that the friendly relations between Pakistan and China are dependent on the exchange of visits by top leaders, the official visits themselves, especially since both Pakistan and China, both with hundreds of millions of people, are equipped with attention (WP:N). It's not a vlogger with millions of followers releasing a new song, it's not a visit by a minister or a senator, it's an official diplomatic event representing the will of the nations. I'm not fully aware of Pakistan's internal political tensions, and I don't really care what a specific Pakistani editor's favorites are for specific politicians. WP:N is judged on the basis of facts and sources, and if a visit lacks official coverage from both sides, then it naturally lacks attention. If the Western media also be aware of, then this proves that the event has really touched some people's interests, which strengthens the basis of WP:N. --TinaLees-Jones (talk) 07:20, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    - As far as Nawaz Sharif's visits to China are concerned, there have been five in total, one in July 2013, one in April 2014 (to attend Conference on Interaction and Confidence Building Measures in Asia), one in November 2014 to attend APEC 2014, one in 2015 December 2015 SCO, and once in May 2017 at the 2017 Belt and Road Forum. then the correct way would have been to write the 2013 official visit by Nawaz Sharif to China as an independent article, with the rest to be merged into the corresponding conference ones, and if I am happy I would write it later. The correct editorial logic, however, is that diplomacy is all about reciprocal visits, and entries on reciprocal visits that corroborate each other add to the credibility and readability of the articles - one by one, gradually. --TinaLees-Jones (talk) 07:20, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      - TinaLees-Jones, Notability is not temporary and WP:LASTING states An event that is a precedent or catalyst for something else of lasting significance is likely to be notable. State visits are usually routine and we've no way of knowing if this particular visit will be historically significant or even momentous event, since the history hasn't been written yet. All we have are some news reports, which are WP:ROTM coverage. Nor this visit yielded any significant outcome or significant effect on the Pak-China relation so I think that it's just like another routine state visit without enduring significance and so clearly fails WP:NEVENT. The press coverage of this official visit doesn't automatically fulfill the requirements of WP:NEVENT. I won't delve into this further. I feel I've expressed my perspective adequately so now I'll leave it to others to make their own assessments. — Saqib (talk) 07:54, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Very weak keep. This is a rare case where I believe WP:ROUTINE applies. All state visits are covered extensively in Chinese media. However, the Al Jazeera and Reuters sources make it hard for me to !vote delete in good faith. Toadspike [Talk] 04:14, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Toadspike, But I don't really see anything particularly extraordinary about this visit. Take, for example, Nawaz Sharif's visit to China back in 2014. That was a big deal because it kicked off the CPEC project in Pakistan, which was worth billions! But we don't even have an article about that visit. So, why should we have one for Shahbaz's recent trip which was a pretty routine stuff. WP isn't a newspaper, right? — Saqib (talk) 06:38, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  I don't see anything particularly extraordinary either, but the significant coverage in Al Jazeera and Reuters, which are not based in Pakistan or China, makes it seem vaguely notable. Your other argument is just WP:OTHERSTUFF. I already marked my !vote as "very weak" and the closer will interpret it accordingly, what more do you want? Toadspike [Talk] 06:43, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per Saqib. - Amigao (talk) 03:16, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect (or merge) to China–Pakistan relations. The nom is right, the article violates WP:NOTNEWS and we have no WP:SUSTAINED coverage due to this visit being way too recent. It may or may not gather sufficient coverage to justify keeping the article in the future, but as it currently stands, it is not suitable for inclusion in the encyclopedia as a standalone article. Pilaz (talk) 17:18, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: A non-notable visit. Not deserving a page on Wikipedia. Would not argue against a Redirect (or merge) as an alternate to deletion -- which equals it does not deserve a page. The event was not significant and did not precede any other notable event that resulted from the visit. In this case the article fails the Inclusion criteria #4, lacking "enduring significance". The event was just routine and the new coverage was just news of the event with no lasting historical significance. -- Otr500 (talk) 20:42, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hong Kong related deletions[edit]

Paulius Stankevicius[edit]

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No indication of importance. I have a degree, I founded a small consultancy, I wrote some articles, I wrote a book. BrigadierG (talk) 10:17, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Nowhere girls[edit]

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article is written to legitimize this term, making it seem its use is widespread. there isn't even a chinese wikipedia article about this term. search up "沒女", most results (and most sources in the article) are about the tv show 没女大翻身. ltb d l (talk) 08:53, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep for now: Could the nominator clarify what is the rationale for deletion? The Wen Wei Po, U Beauty, and the South China Morning Post sources currently in the article may not be the best, but already demonstrate that the term exists and is notable enough to pass GNG. In addition to these sources, a simple search has provided me with numerous other sources, including some Chinese sources that document the origin of this term (see Economic Daily[18] and The Sun[19]), how it spread to and became popular in Hong Kong (see Hong Kong Economic Journal[20], Wen Wei Po[21], and She.com [zh][22]), as well as the subsequent social influence and some recurring usages after it gained popularity (see BBC [23], Ming Pao[24], HK01 [25], and Oriental Daily News[26]). I have not yet looked for academic sources, but I have already come across two academic journal articles that cover this term when I was searching for media sources ([27] and [28]), so I do not believe academic sources would be difficult to locate either. :The fact that it does not currently have a respective article on the zhwiki means nothing, and it is clearly an argument of WP:OTHERSTUFFDOESNTEXIST. Most of the sources mention the TV show Nowhere Girl is understandable, because that show popularised the term. There are many other instances of the term being used, such as the drama series The No No Girl (全職沒女), the film Love Detective [zh] (沒女神探), and a non-fiction book 沒女要翻身 (lt. Nowhere Girls Need Changes) written by Queenie Chan [zh][29], where the English translation of the term may differ. So the claim that the term is only used in one particular TV show is false as well. Could the nominator please elaborate a bit more on the specific rationale being used for deletion? —Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 15:34, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per the excellent research by Prince of Erebor (talk · contribs), who has definitively shown that the topic passes Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline. Cunard (talk) 10:16, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Taiwan related deletions[edit]

List of battles in Kinmen[edit]

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Similarly to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of battles in Penghu, I don't see the reason why this would be its own article, as opposed to the conflicts being covered in the Kinmen article (where they are already covered). toweli (talk) 07:59, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Agree with nom. WP:SALAT and WP:NOTDIRECTORY per previous discussion. —Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 10:42, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Agree with nom. Unneeded content fork, and WP:NOTDIRECTORY. Kierzek (talk) 15:05, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: as a sort of set index page. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 16:04, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete No need of this index. Zakaria ښه راغلاست (talk) 11:19, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nowhere girls[edit]

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article is written to legitimize this term, making it seem its use is widespread. there isn't even a chinese wikipedia article about this term. search up "沒女", most results (and most sources in the article) are about the tv show 没女大翻身. ltb d l (talk) 08:53, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep for now: Could the nominator clarify what is the rationale for deletion? The Wen Wei Po, U Beauty, and the South China Morning Post sources currently in the article may not be the best, but already demonstrate that the term exists and is notable enough to pass GNG. In addition to these sources, a simple search has provided me with numerous other sources, including some Chinese sources that document the origin of this term (see Economic Daily[30] and The Sun[31]), how it spread to and became popular in Hong Kong (see Hong Kong Economic Journal[32], Wen Wei Po[33], and She.com [zh][34]), as well as the subsequent social influence and some recurring usages after it gained popularity (see BBC [35], Ming Pao[36], HK01 [37], and Oriental Daily News[38]). I have not yet looked for academic sources, but I have already come across two academic journal articles that cover this term when I was searching for media sources ([39] and [40]), so I do not believe academic sources would be difficult to locate either. :The fact that it does not currently have a respective article on the zhwiki means nothing, and it is clearly an argument of WP:OTHERSTUFFDOESNTEXIST. Most of the sources mention the TV show Nowhere Girl is understandable, because that show popularised the term. There are many other instances of the term being used, such as the drama series The No No Girl (全職沒女), the film Love Detective [zh] (沒女神探), and a non-fiction book 沒女要翻身 (lt. Nowhere Girls Need Changes) written by Queenie Chan [zh][41], where the English translation of the term may differ. So the claim that the term is only used in one particular TV show is false as well. Could the nominator please elaborate a bit more on the specific rationale being used for deletion? —Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 15:34, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per the excellent research by Prince of Erebor (talk · contribs), who has definitively shown that the topic passes Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline. Cunard (talk) 10:16, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]