Wikipedia:Drawing board/Archives/2009/September

The hip-hop group "Dead Prez" has a new album out called "Pulse Of The People" On the main dead Prez Wikipedia Page they have the album listed but there is no link to a new page, and there are not details about the album.

I would like to create a new page about their new album, but I have never made a Wikipedia page before, and I am a little overwhelmed. Maybe someone with more experience could create the page instead?

Here are some links that might be useful:

http://www.prefixmag.com/reviews/dead-prez/pulse-of-the-people/28432/

http://www.deadprez.com/

new user would like to request a review - Down For Life (Por Vida) Film

I am writing my first Wikipedia article, and before I publish it would it be possible for someone to take a look at it and let me know if I've done anything wrong please?

The article is currently at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Feuersteinj/Down_For_Life_(Por_Vida)

Thanks Feuersteinj (talk) 01:45, 25 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, the NY Times Article may have been part of the story, but it does not prove that your topic is notable. Also the list of myspace and twitter pages do not look promising as they indicate self published material and not reliable sources. Can you find more reliable sources to show that others wrote about the topic? Otherwise this looks OK for a start. Others on Wikipedia can help with the format of refs etc. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 14:00, 4 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

WANdisco Company Page

Resolved

Hi Guys,

I've drafted an article about WANdisco, the company I work for. It's in my sandbox

I've kept it as unbiased and factual as I can manage, with a focus on the technical implementation, which I think has value to a wider audience who might be interested in our area of expertise.

I'm very concious of the COI rules and don't want to fall foul of anything that is unacceptable. As such I was hoping someone could advise me on the suitability of the article I've written and if not already, what would need to happen to make it good enough for publication. I'd also really appreciate some pointers about what I can do to improve it - perhaps even by removing some content in the short term where I've found it hard to add references?

Many thanks.

Ian wild (talk) 13:02, 13 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It does not look too bad! You have managed to keep out the sales speak, and made it not sound like a promotion. See if you can find references to support every paragraph. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 23:18, 14 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Graeme, I've added some more references where I can. The part I am struggling with is where the details of the technology are only available in self published sources (we have a white paper that expands loads, but it's only been published on our website to date). I guess the question is whether there is specific parts I should remove on the grounds of not being able to provide an appropriate reference?

Ian wild (talk) 14:21, 17 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You can support the details in the article with the company web site, but not really from internal documents. Wikipedia is not supposed to be the first place that something is published, see WP:OR. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 22:18, 17 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Very Helpful - I'll have a proper read. Thanks a lot Graeme Ian wild (talk) 09:33, 18 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Done what I can for now and published, but I'll keep comign back to it to add further where I can.

Perhaps you should not list all those software products and platforms in the lead paragraph. Also, there is a subsection of Advantages, but no Disadvantages. Are there Disadvantages? Be upfront if there are.(WP:NPOV) There are likely to be objections to the use of the logo from WikiMedia Commons. Look into how this can be done without compromising the company's rights but still meeting the requirements of WikiPedia. Maybe someone else can give advice on how this can be done. --DThomsen8 (talk) 23:49, 4 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

review request on Bioinformatics database article

It looks like the category of Bioinformatics databases does not cover Antibody databases at all. I have created an article in my user area here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nnkalnin (talk • contribs) 02:22, 28 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Would it be more useful to have a general article on antibody databases, or is AntibodyLink.org the only one? If you write about a web site, it has to meet the WP:WEB standard, but on a topic, it is harder to speedy delete. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 13:46, 4 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Syndrome of Non Sense

GOMEZTIC SYNDROME

Pathognomic sign:

- Gomez's Triad > Involuntary raising of eyebrows accompanied by froceful interception of forehead muscles without reason. > Three step walking then involuntarily stepping backwards to the origin without reason or explananation. >Abnormal syllabication of Phrases accompanied by fluctuating intonation without reason with secondary irregular unstable breathing pattern without logical reason.

Etiology:

- Intercourse with cold blooded mammals. - exposure to the Caritas Philippines institution.

Pre-requisite:

- Catholic Social Teaching - Asian Civilization - Astrology - Geography - The Barber story - Bigbang Theory "accretion"

Diagnostic Test: Mini-mini-mini-mo

Treatment: No possible known cure.

Nursing Management:

- Perform deep sleeping exercises (Abearic Worship)

Secondary Complications:

- Severe intetstinal hemorrhage - Alopecia Nervioso - Tic Dorothy - Multiple intra scrotal tumors - Abnormal growth of pubic hair under the nails - Drooling of saliva in the external anal sphincetr

Medical Management:

- 72 hour exposure to pen light (may only alleviate the pain) - Body piercing to hidden body cvities. (to divert attention) - Euthanasia (most effective)

Signed: The Genetics Pharmacy Business permit: 000-FA-KE —Preceding unsigned comment added by Genetics pharmacy (talk • contribs) 06:23, 28 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds very much like a joke to me. Wikipedia is a serious encyclopedia. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 13:31, 4 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Very much? The business permit is "000-FA-KE". That says enough. What a waste of time. ƒ(Δ)² 17:47, 4 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

People for Better Treatment

PBT was inaugurated on 30th December, 2001 at the Netaji Subash Institute, Sealdah by the founding President Dr. Kunal Saha from USA. What started as a fight for justice against medical malpractice by an individual (Dr. Saha) for the wrongful death of his wife Anuradha, has now turned into a mass movement against the pervasive malpractice across the country. Anuradha, an India-born USA citizen died in the most incomprehensible manner during a social visit to India at an age of only 36 and at the beginning of a productive career as a Child Psychologist. She graduated from the prestigious Columbia University in New York City in 1998 just before her last trip to India

In a historic judgment on "medical negligence" delivered on August 7, 2009, the Supreme Court of India found 4 doctors and Advanced Medicare Research Institute (AMRI) in Kolkata guilty for negligent treatment causing death of Anuradha Saha, wife of PBT president Dr. Kunal Saha.

The Apex Court held senior medicine specialists Dr. Sukumar Mukherjee, Dr. Abani Roychowdhury, senior dermatologist Dr. Baidyanath Halder, physician Dr. Balaram Prasad (associated with the AMRI hospital) as well as the AMRI hospital, responsible for Anuradha's death. In this SC Judgement, the SC has also laid down many new guidelines and rules that doctors/hospitals must observe for treatment of patients.

This historical judgment by the Supreme Court of India is a win for PBT and for all Indian citizens who until now stood silently with no hope for justice against the delinquent doctors of India who stayed above the law and continued the practice of wrongful medicine without any fear.

However, this judgment does not imply that every doctor is "guilty" of malpractice and it is our hope that this judgment does not encourage the public to bring in criminal charges against the doctors at random. However, we also hope that this judgment will make the doctors of India realize that nobody is above the law no matter how influential he/she may be. More importantly, we hope that this judgment will stimulate sweeping changes to bring honesty and transparency in the medical community and specially in the medical councils who have the noble duty to judge impartially the complaints against doctors and to stop malpractice in India. The medical councils in India is inherently flawed with its "doctors only" members whose only purpose is to protect their friends/colleagues without ever caring for the millions of victims of "malpractice". It is because of the corrupt medical councils, the sole protector and regulator of practice of medicine, that the doctors hardly care for their mistakes causing needless loss of thousands of innocent lives everyday.

The primary goal of the PBT is to help the victims of malpractice fins justice and to fight to change the present scenario of the medical councils so that the delinquent doctors of India can be disciplined and malpractice can be eradicated.

http://www.telegraphindia.com/1090808/jsp/frontpage/story_11335799.jsp

http://www.telegraphindia.com/1090810/jsp/nation/story_11342028.jsp

http://www.telegraphindia.com/1090809/jsp/frontpage/story_11339329.jsp —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vivek Kishore (talk • contribs) 15:21, 21 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This looks very like a copy of http://www.pbtindia.com/About_Us.html, see People for Better Treatment for an attempt at creating this. This may be a copyright violation. Content should be rewritten for wikipedia. 58.107.1.244 (talk) 23:02, 21 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Can you help publishing this article on Wikipedia. I got permission from Wikipedia. Would you like me to attach the email?

Pallavi Hisaria (talk) 03:25, 11 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Feedback request for this article

Hi esteemed editors-- I am writing an article on a nonprofit I volunteer with. I have never written an article before so I appreciate any feedback from more experienced users.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Lalonzo08/International_relations_council

Thanks Lalonzo08 (talk) 02:58, 8 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The article itself looks OK. But there needs to be some references to show Notability. Your references so far only include publications of the organization you are writing about. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 22:17, 10 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Is this the place for help to finish an article?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Explodicle/Planetary_human_habitability
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Explodicle/Planetary_human_habitability
I know I could be giving this article more attention, specifically reference sifting, but I've been working on it alone.
and haven't abandoned other articles. I don't need credit for it myself and I have tried different ways to get help to finish it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Archives/Science/2009_August_30#Parameters_of_Planet_Habitability_for_people.3F_.28not_Extremophiles.29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Planetary_habitability#SURVEY_on_extremophile.2Fcolonization_ambiguity.2C_article_size.2C_and_the_coming_split.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Space_and_survival
I'm not having any success getting help to finish it, and I would rather it was more than just me.
If anyone could offer anything, it seems I've tried everything but begging.
Is it out of line to place an RFC right on the userfied article "talkpage?"
Is there anything I haven't tried?
Is there anyone here who gets it and has any interest?
GabrielVelasquez (talk) 13:59, 5 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

As I mentioned before this is very similar in topic to Planetary habitability so a merge is in order. Also 198.163.53.10 seems to be trashing the page. For the merged page remember it is a featured article, so all edits have to maintain the high standard, including prose, balance, referencing, format. It would be best for you to use the talk page Talk:Planetary habitability to discuss any changes first. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 22:13, 10 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Actually it is not at all the same, you obviously don't know what you are talking about. And haven't read either article. That's like saying Ants and People are the same because they both inhabit the Earth, That sounds pretty stupid doesn't it. One Article is about extremophile ET life evolution and the other is about people from Earth inhabiting other planets. Your comment reads as though you didn't read either article. People have more limits on all of those dimensions than Bacteria, did you know that?? your comments are shamefully ignorant of the references written by Dole and Asimov. 24.79.9.150 (talk) 11:00, 16 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, you are asking for help, yet you insult the helpers. You will have to be a team player to get workers to help you write an article. You already have enough information to write a stub, and even a bit more. WP:WikiProject Space would be the place to ask for help. The Drawing Board is mainly for those wishing to start an article rather than finish one. I think that you are ready to start. However also consider Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Planetary human habitability which you participated in. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 13:14, 16 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Feedback Request

Done

Hi -

I've spent a bunch of time trying to craft an objective description of our company's product. However, since this is a first contribution -- and I love the whole Wiki concept -- I want to get some feedback to be sure that I am not on the wrong side of any major guidelines/policies. Note that the article is missing a couple of specific references and still needs some graphics and typo clean-ups.

As you will also note, the article includes a fairly lengthy list and transcluded template. Any guidance on how to handle this properly would be appreciated.

Please find the draft article at: XLeratorDB Article Draft

Thanks in advance,

SQLTool —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sqltool (talk • contribs) 19:10, 10 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Firstly I must say this is a very nice looking first article. There are these two concerns: First is the software notable? This means that at least two independent others have published on the topic of XLeratorDB. (This does not include the company or its press releases). Second the use of the company logo is nor fair use, however you could include the logo of the software, or a box cover instead. You should read WP:COI and see if it applies. Because you are connected with the product, you will come under careful scrutiny to see if it is a promotion or not. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 21:51, 10 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Graeme - Thanks so much for the prompt feedback and so sorry for the delayed response. I did change out the logo and should meet the notability guideline. Sqltool (talk) 20:42, 12 September 2009 (UTC)SQLTool[reply]

You can probably move it to article space to XLeratorDB. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:02, 13 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Need for a new article on Indian Institute of Architects

I am an Architect from India. I was searching for information about 'The Indian Institute of Architects (IIA)' but there is no article on this institute. The Indian Institute of Architects is the national body of Architects in India with more than 15000 members, so I think there is a need to create a new article on this topic. I am looking for suggestions from other editors about creating a new article on Indian Institute of Architects. Thank you.

http://www.iia-india.org/index.shtml

Saurabhraste (talk) 11:31, 19 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You may also want to try posting a request at Wikipedia:Requested articles. If you want to create it yourself try Wikipedia:Article wizard 2.0. -- œ ^™ 23:48, 19 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Stretford End band page

Hello,

I created a page for my band (it is now in my sandbox)and it was deleted due to lack of sources. I only included factual information and it is not meant as a sales pitch in any way. Does anyone have any suggestions as to what I could ad to make the page acceptable?

Thanks! Stretfordend (talk) 19:08, 23 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It was actually deleted as being an advertisement, but I would contest that. By the way myspace and itunes are not independent sources, you will need to find that someone else wrote about the band without the band asking for it. Perhaps newspaper or music magazine. Probably the itunes link would be counted as a sales link, so avoid that. WP:COI tells us it is risky to make an article on your own band, your own self or your company. When you recreate your sandbox, don't put in the categories yet or a link to somewhere to buy the records. Do you need the article to be restored? Graeme Bartlett (talk) 22:27, 23 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Stretfordend, while Graeme's reply included "don't put in the categories yet" you can include them in the article if you start the link with a colon. For example, [[:Category:All-women bands]] will display as Category:All-women bands but will not include the article in the category. If you move the article into the main Wikipedia space you would then do a quick edit to remove the colons. --Marc Kupper|talk 03:35, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]