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Ready (Trey Songz album)[edit]

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Ready
7 articles
"I Need a Girl"
"Successful"
"LOL Smiley Face"
"I Invented Sex"
"Say Aah"
"Neighbors Know My Name"

Now that all articles pertaining to the album are GA-status, I believe Ready can now be a good topic, all being transformed from start-class articles. The GTC proposal contains five singles and an album track from the set. Candyo32 08:07, 20 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Hold up. Non-free content is not allowed here. Is there a picture of Trey Songz that you can use instead? Adabow (talk · contribs) 09:25, 20 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Imperial War Museum[edit]

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Imperial War Museum
5 articles
Churchill War Rooms
HMS Belfast
Imperial War Museum Duxford
Imperial War Museum North
Main contributor: IxK85

I think this is a well defined topic. Nergaal (talk) 23:31, 16 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. Should Duxford Aerodrome and possibly Parachute Regiment and Airborne Forces Museum be included in this topic? Rambo's Revenge (talk) 23:50, 17 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not necessary since they are each covered under the other articles. To clarify the issue, the topic could be named "Imperial War Museum network" instead. Nergaal (talk) 00:18, 18 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I would also say not; Duxford Aerodrome is about the (mostly wartime) history of the airfield, not the museum as such, and the Para and ABF Museum is organisationally separate to the Imperial War Museum. --IxK85 (talk) 09:17, 18 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. Needs a book. Ucucha 23:53, 17 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support As a regular contributor to each of the five IWM articles, I think the topic meets the criteria.--IxK85 (talk) 08:46, 20 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support The museum and its main constituent locations are a complete topic. Zginder 2010-10-20T17:28Z (UTC)
  • Support Nicely done.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 17:27, 21 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Océan class ironclads[edit]

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Océan-class ironclad
4 articles
Océan
Marengo
Suffren

This GTC concerns a class of three French ironclads built in the late 1860s. They spent the bulk of their careers in the Mediterranean and their most notable act was the bombardment of Sfax when the French occupied Tunisia in 1881.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 18:34, 15 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

John Ericsson class monitors[edit]

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John Ericsson-class monitor
6 articles
HMS John Ericsson
HMS Thordön
HMS Tirfing
HMS Loke
HNoMS Mjølner

This GTC covers five monitors built for the Swedish and Norwegian Navies during the 1860s. They were designed with the help of John Ericsson, the Swedish-born inventor who had designed the original USS Monitor for the US Navy. The ships were generally kept in reserve, commissioned only briefly during the year, if at all. The last ships weren't sold off until after World War I and most were converted to barges.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 17:41, 15 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Gangut class battleships[edit]

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Gangut-class battleship
5 articles
Gangut
Sevastopol
Petropavlovsk
Poltava

The GTC covers the first class of Russian dreadnoughts. They were built for service in the Baltic Sea and delivered during World War I. They had a quiet war, but joined the Soviets during the February 1917 Revolution and fought in the Russian Civil War. One ship was transferred to the Black Sea Fleet in 1930 and another was badly damaged by fire when it was mothballed, so that only two ships were assigned to the Baltic Fleet when the Winter War of 1939 began. The ships could do little as the ice began to form not long after the start of the war. They were trapped in Leningrad after the Germans invaded in 1941 and one had its bow blown off, but was refloated and used as a floating battery. The one ship in the Black Sea provided fire support during the early stages of the Siege of Sevastopol, but was withdrawn from combat in early 1942 as it was too valuable to risk.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 03:55, 12 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

La Galissonnière class ironclads[edit]

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La Galissonnière-class ironclad
4 articles
La Galissonnière
Triomphante
Victorieuse

This GTC concerns the three successors to the Alma-class ironclads. They mainly served overseas and fought in the French colonial wars in Vietnam and China.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 03:27, 12 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Alma class ironclads[edit]

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Alma-class ironclad
8 articles
Alma
Jeanne d'Arc
Thétis
Armide
Montcalm
Atalante
Reine Blanche

This GTC concerns a class of seven French armored corvettes, designed as second-class ironclads suitable for foreign deployments. Despite this several participated in the ineffectual French attempt to blockade the Prussian coast during the Franco-Prussian War of 1870, but a number of ships participated in French colonial advantures in Tunisia, Vietnam, and China during the 1880s.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 02:53, 12 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Act on National Flag and Anthem (Japan)[edit]

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Act on National Flag and Anthem (Japan)
3 articles
Flag of Japan
Kimigayo

Good topic The issue about the national symbols is very touchy in Japan, especially with the national flag and the national anthem. There is not a lot of English language material about both symbols and also about the law that was created in 1999 to make these symbols official. While there are many symbols of Japan, the flag and anthem are the most known (and heated) and only were discussed in this law. Flag of Japan is an FA, Act on National Flag and Anthem (Japan) and Kimigayo are GA's. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 06:15, 11 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ekaterina II class battleships[edit]

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Ekaterina II-class battleships
5 articles
Ekaterina II
Sinop
Chesma
Georgii Pobedonosets

This GTC comprises the first pre-dreadnought battleships built for the Imperial Russian Navy. They served in the Black Sea, but were generally relegated to second-line service by the First World War and the oldest two were used as targets shortly before the war began. Neither of the two survivors saw combat during the war. One ship was towed away when the Whites evacuated the Crimea in 1920 and was not scrapped until the 1930s, but the remaining ship was scrapped by the Soviets a decade earlier.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 22:10, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Battles of the Greco-Persian Wars[edit]

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Battles of the Greco-Persian Wars
15 articles
Ionian Revolt
Siege of Naxos (499 BC)
Battle of Lade
First Persian invasion of Greece
Siege of Eretria
Battle of Marathon
Second Persian invasion of Greece
Battle of Thermopylae
Battle of Artemisium
Battle of Salamis
Battle of Plataea
Battle of Mycale
Wars of the Delian League
Battle of the Eurymedon
Wikipedia:Featured topic candidates/Ionian Revolt
Wikipedia:Featured topic candidates/First Persian invasion of Greece
Wikipedia:Featured topic candidates/Second Persian invasion of Greece

Yes, I know I am not the major contributor, but this is not a nomination proposal, but a merge proposal. There are three topics nominated this year ( that encompass most of this. But as listed above, these topics appear to be fine as merged. Since "The Invincibles" topic, it appears to be a significant movement towards merging together small topics into broader, well defined topic. The advantage of this proposal is that the last battle is also included, together with the main article. What do people think? Nergaal (talk) 04:18, 27 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose. I think that to be complete, a topic on the Wars should also include articles on the major generals, like Leonidas I, and sources, like the Histories. Ucucha 06:18, 27 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • Struck my oppose; I won't support until a subject expert has approved the topic. Ucucha 13:14, 18 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • Also, a book is needed that covers the entire proposed topic. Ucucha 13:25, 18 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Nergaal (talk) 00:54, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per Ucucha. You might could construct a topic around "Battles of the Greco-Persian Wars", (You'd likely need an FL) but as nominated, I must oppose. Courcelles 07:11, 27 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ok, I've renamed it as suggested. As for the FL, I don't really see that appropriate. There would be some 10 entries in a table that would be well included in the main article; to me that sounds like a content fork and should not stand as a separate article. Nergaal (talk) 18:17, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
This format is similar to that in other current topics - specifically Classes of supernovae, Physical geography of Somerset, and Towns in Trafford - which use the main article to define a slightly narrower topic that that of the central article. Nergaal (talk) 18:25, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The topic can be later expanded to include other major personalities in the wars, at which point the title can be switched to the overview topic. Nergaal (talk) 13:24, 18 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Still oppose. This format necessitates either a list or a timeline to be added. Courcelles 01:14, 2 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Can anybody give their opinion about merging or not these topics? Nergaal (talk) 04:53, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • 1 oppose, 1 neutral, 1 nom after a month. Anybody else care to give their input? Nergaal (talk) 20:10, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. I feel that the piping is fine, and I see that the original nominator of the three topics wanted to put them all together originally but didn't because they were told that they needed the biographies. --PresN 19:49, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. I hope one day that I will get all the rest of the work done, and this can just be a "Greco-Persian Wars" super-topic. For the time-being though, I think that the "Battles of the Greco-Persian Wars" super-topic is fine.  M.F.B.T.  Yes, Minister? 19:21, 3 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: MFBT is the original nominator of the topics currently proposed for merger. Nergaal (talk) 19:55, 3 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support I too think the piping is fine. The main article already outlines the entire battle in prose form, thus a timeline is not required imo.—Chris!c/t 22:46, 10 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Close with consensus to promote. The lone oppose left seems not to be an issue for anyone else, and has also been countered. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 01:38, 18 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Evstafi class battleships[edit]

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Evstafi class battleships
3 articles
Evstafi
Ioann Zlatoust

These two ships were the most modern battleships in the Russian Black Sea Fleet at the start of World War I. They successfully engaged the much larger and more powerful battlecruiser Yavuz on several occasions during the first year of the war without significant damage to themselves. They were relegated to second-line duties when the Russian dreadnoughts began to enter service at the end of 1915 and sold for scrap by the Soviets as hopelessly obsolete.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 23:41, 3 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Interesting idea, although there were a bunch of Russian destroyers and the like that never fired a shot. But I suppose it could be limited to the major ships as they were the only ones that fired. I'll have to keep it in mind for the future.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 18:57, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • I can work on Potemkin with you, if you want. Buggie111 (talk) 13:21, 14 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support More High Quality work by Sturm. Buggie111 (talk) 13:21, 14 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Procedural note: Ucucha has promoted this review but not notated that here. -MBK004 08:04, 15 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mogador class destroyers[edit]

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Mogador class destroyers
3 articles
Mogador
Volta

Often referred to as super-destroyers in English-language works, these ships were nearly the size of light cruisers. Built just before World War II, neither ship fired a shell at Axis ships during the war, but both were present when the British attacked at Mers-el-Kebir in July 1940, hoping to destroy the French ships there lest they get turned over to the Germans by the Vichy government. Both ships eventually sought refuge in Toulon where they were scuttled by the French to prevent them from falling into German hands. All three articles are GA class.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 01:02, 2 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Procedural note: Ucucha has promoted this review but not notated that here.

Imperatritsa Mariya class battleships[edit]

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Imperatritsa Mariya-class battleship
4 articles
Imperatritsa Mariya
Imperatritsa Ekaterina Velikaya
Imperator Aleksandr III

This GTC concerns three Russian dreadnoughts reasserted Russian naval superiority in the Black Sea during World War I after it had been lost by the introduction of the ex-German battlecruiser Yavuz into the Black Sea when the war began. The first ship was destroyed by a magazine fire a year after commissioning and the second ship was scuttled in 1918 to prevent her from being turned over to the Germans according to the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk. The last ship saw four different changes of ownership before the British turned her over to the Whites during the Russian Civil War. She led the evacuation from the Crimea in 1920 and took refuge in the French North African port of Bizerte. She was eventually scrapped by the French to pay her docking fees, but her guns were removed and eventually saw service with Finland and Germany in World War II. All articles are GAs. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sturmvogel 66 (talk • contribs)

Procedural note: Ucucha has promoted this review but not notated that here. -MBK004 08:06, 15 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Kirov class cruisers[edit]

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Kirov-class cruiser
7 articles
Kirov
Voroshilov
Maxim Gorky
Molotov
Kaganovich
Kalinin

The largest Soviet warships completed until after World War II, four of the ships fought in the war while the other two were still building in the Far East. Two were trapped by the Germans during the Siege of Leningrad while the other two transported troops and supplies during the Sieges of Odessa and Sevastopol. Only a couple ships were fully modernized in the 1950s while the others were relegated to roles as training and missile test ships before being scrapped.

While there are plenty of photos on Commons, the vast majority lack proper sourcing so their licenses are suspect. The only two real copyright-free images are a Soviet stamp (at [1]) and this photo of a model of the ship. Neither is ideal, but its probably worth discussing which is better.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 14:11, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support. But are they the Kirov-class cruisers or the Kirov class cruisers? I see both spellings on this page and in the lead article. Ucucha 19:53, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Nergaal (talk) 04:54, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The stamp image seems to have lower EV; the current one seems better. Nergaal (talk) 03:58, 2 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Closed with consensus to promote. Ucucha 23:02, 14 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wittelsbach class battleships[edit]

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Wittelsbach-class battleship
6 articles
SMS Wittelsbach
SMS Wettin
SMS Zähringen
SMS Schwaben
SMS Mecklenburg

The third class of German pre-dreadnoughts, and the first built under the naval expansion program of Admiral Alfred von Tirpitz. All articles have passed GA reviews. This and the Braunschweig nomination currently up will complete the German pre-dreadnought series, leaving only the WWI-era Helgoland, Kaiser, and König class and the handful of WWII-era ship articles to be completed before this monster is finally finished. Parsecboy (talk) 15:12, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Braunschweig class battleships[edit]

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Braunschweig-class battleship
6 articles
SMS Braunschweig
SMS Elsass
SMS Hessen
SMS Preussen
SMS Lothringen

The second to last class of German pre-dreadnoughts—all articles have passed GA reviews. This and the Wittelsbach nomination currently up will complete the German pre-dreadnought series, leaving only the WWI-era Helgoland, Kaiser, and König class and the handful of WWII-era ship articles to be completed before this monster is finally finished. Parsecboy (talk) 15:12, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Kongō class battlecruisers[edit]

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Kongō-class battlecruiser
5 articles
Kongō
Hiei
Haruna
Kirishima

Yet another WP:OMT topic centered around the class of four battlecruisers/fast-battleships of the Imperial Japanese Navy during the Second World War. Haruna is FA, while the class article and Kirishima have both passed WP:MILHIST A-Class Reviews as well. I'm planning to upgrade this eventually to a Featured Topic, and possibly incorporate it into a later FT concerning all of Japan's battlecruisers throughout history if the sufficient article-work can be done, much as Parsecboy did with the individual battlecruisers of Germany into one large "Battlecruisers of Germany" Featured Topic. Cam (Chat)(Prof) 01:50, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Closed with a consensus to promote.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 03:05, 3 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Like a Virgin[edit]

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Like a Virgin
9 articles
"Like a Virgin"
"Material Girl"
"Angel"
"Into the Groove"
"Dress You Up"
"Love Don't Live Here Anymore"
The Virgin Tour
Live – The Virgin Tour

I believe these eight articles are comprehensive and together denotes one of the best bunch in Wikipedia. They are about American recording artist (legend) Madonna's second studio album Like a Virgin, the singles released from the album, and the supporting tour and its subsequent live video release. So with the consensus of my fellow editors, I would like to promote this topic to a good topic. — Legolas (talk2me) 09:27, 25 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Adabow (talk · contribs) 09:33, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
*Oppose "Love Don't Live Here Anymore" appeared on Like a Virgin. It doesn't matter when it was released as a single. Therefore it fails criterion 1.d. Adabow (talk · contribs) 06:59, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • Criterion 1d states about gaps in the topic. However, it is important that you understand that "Love Don't Live Here Anymore" is a single from Something To Remember and not from Like a Virgin. Therefore it is suitable for the GTC of Soemthing to Remember. One article in two topics doesnot make any sense. "Love Don't Live Here Anymore" is an album track from Like a Virgin which has no relation to the "Love Don't Live Here Anymore" article which is a remix of the original Rose Royce song. — Legolas (talk2me) 07:34, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      • So, to clarify, are they two different songs, coincidentally with the same name? Adabow (talk · contribs) 09:33, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
        • I think Legolas is saying that they are two different recordings of the same song, the version that was a single in the 90s being a wholly different recording to the one on this album, although I might have misunderstood. That begs the more general question, if an album happens to include a cover of a song which has a WP article, would it automatically need to be included in a topic on that album? For example, would a topic on "Version" need to include all twelve songs that have WP articles, even though less than half were released as singles.......? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 19:23, 18 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
          • The Something to Remember single is a remix of the Like a Virgin track. Therefore "Love Don't Live Here Anymore" belongs in this GT and any future Something to Remember GT. Adabow (talk · contribs) 19:47, 18 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
            • Please see the GTC of Madonna (album) here where it was decided that The Virgin Tour is more appropriate to be included in the Like a Virgin GTC, although the tour supported the Madonna album, since it coincides more with the LAV era. Similar for the LDLHA song. It is a single from Soemthing to Remember, not from this one. Another example I can show you is Britney Spears' album Blackout and Circus. Both of them has the same song "Radar", but the song was released as a single from Circus. Hence it mentions only the labum name as Circus in the infobox of the song article. Moreover, as I have pointed out before, the version released by Madonna is a remix of teh Rose Royce song, and the one in Like a Virgin is a cover, both are infinitely different. — Legolas (talk2me) 08:24, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'll change to neutral, as I'm still not convinced. While it may be a single from StR, it is still a song from LaV. If either Blackout or Circus were to be sent to FTC, "Radar" would need to be a GA, as it appears on both albums. Lastly, I don't really understand what the difference between the remix and the cover. From the "Love Don't Live Here Anymore" article, the LaV version is a cover, and the StR version is the LaV song remixed. I don't really see how the remixing of the song excludes it from this topic. Anyway, it was released in Japan in 1986, therefore it was a single then, too. Adabow (talk · contribs) 08:50, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I do understand the points you are trying to make. You will be glad to know that I am making LDLHA a GA, just will take another day. That should solve all the problems. — Legolas (talk2me) 09:11, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support now. Looks good. Adabow (talk · contribs) 09:33, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"Love Don't Live Here Anymore" is a GA now and added to the topic. — Legolas (talk2me) 05:41, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, although that GA promotion was surprisingly fast. Nergaal (talk) 05:50, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Closed with a consensus to promote.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 15:27, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Supplementary nominations[edit]

  1. Wikipedia:Featured topic candidates/Like a Virgin/addition1
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