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2023 World Snooker Championship[edit]

2023 World Snooker Championship (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator(s): Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 21:00, 8 April 2024 (UTC), HurricaneHiggins[reply]

This article is about last year's World Championship. The last FAC failed for inactivity, rather than quality. Let me know what you think! Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 21:00, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from BennyOnTheLoose[edit]

(Note: my alleged contribution to the article results from having run IABot on it, and a co-ordinator confirmed at the previous nomination that I'm OK to express an opinion. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 22:55, 8 April 2024 (UTC))[reply]

  • Most of my comments from the first nomination have been addressed in edits by HurricaneHiggins, but the sources cited for Main draw still don't verify the dates of matches, or the details of the final (referee, frame scores, breaks).

I did some spot checks on the Third qualification round section and found the following issues. This suggests to me that some background knowledge, rather that just the cited sources, has been used:

  • "The 2006 champion Graeme Dott reached the final round with a 10–6 victory over Andy Hicks. From 7–9 behind against John Astley, world number 21 Anthony McGill made breaks of 136 and 98 to force a deciding frame, which he won." seems to be uncited. Ref 53 only covers the Thepchaiya Un-Nooh/Mark Joyce match. Maybe refs 54 and 55 need to be move or re-used.
  • "former world seniors champion David Lilley2 - "former world seniors champion" not verified by cited source
  • "Two-time semi-finalist Stephen Maguire2 - "Two-time semi-finalist" not verified by cited source
  • "Northern Irish player Jordan Brown" - "Northern Irish" not verified by cited source
  • "2023 German Masters runner-up Tom Ford" - "2023 German Masters runner-up" not verified by cited source
  • "Stevens defeated fellow Welsh player Jamie Clarke" - nationalities are not verified by cited source
  • "2022 Crucible debutant Ashley Hugill." - "2022 Crucible debutant" not verified by cited source
  • "Pang Junxu, runner-up at the previous month's 2023 WST Classic" - "runner-up at the previous month's 2023 WST Classic" not verified by cited source
    • I can see that having these colour bits could be seen as not supported by the sources, I'm happy to take them out. I think there are some pieces where it's worth stating something about the person, why the match matters, etc. Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 17:54, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I've gone through this section and removed some fluff. See if you think that is better. Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 18:23, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Image review

  • Suggest adding alt text
  • File:Cazoo_World_Snooker_Championship_logo.png: source link is dead. Nikkimaria (talk) 03:34, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support from Harper J. Cole[edit]

Hi there, here's a few comments...

  • The tournament featured five female players, the most in 31 years "31 years" could be linked to 1992 World Snooker Championship.
  • Ukrainian player Iulian Boiko, who in 2020 at age 14 had become the youngest player ever to compete in the event While this is worth mentioning in both the 2020 article and Boiko's own article, it seems a bit off topic here.
  • Sean O'Sullivan was on course for a maximum break when he potted two red balls in one shot Do we know how close he was (were they the last two reds)?
  • Poomjaeng posed for a selfie with Stevens after the first session, while trailing 3–6. I don't think you need a comma here.
  • Afterwards, Vafaei made disparaging remarks about his second-round opponent O'Sullivan that stoked a widely publicised rivalry between the players. Just personally, I'd describe it as a feud more than a rivalry. In sports, "rivalry" is typically used to describe players of roughly equal ability who frequently play each other, e.g. Higgins and Davis in the 80s. Vafaei and ROS have only played each other a few times, with their differences being mostly personal.
  • Wilson, who had dropped his cue between sessions while signing autographs, dislodging a weight in the butt, said that the cue was not the reason for his defeat Did this happen between sessions of the match with Higgins, or earlier?
    • I believe it was during this match! Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 18:18, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      • Maybe change to "after the first session" or "between the first and second sessions" to make it clear? Harper J. Cole (talk) 22:21, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
        • Neither of the sources used actually state the time (one says he did it while signing autographs, the other whilst practicing), so we can't make that claim. It's very possible he did it prior to the first session. Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 08:07, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • The final was played as a best-of-35-frames match, held over four sessions on 30 April and 1 May, between Brecel and Selby. No need for the second comma.

Harper J. Cole (talk) 20:42, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi
, thanks for your review! Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 18:18, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No worries - just one more to follow up on above. Harper J. Cole (talk) 22:23, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm satisfied: Support --Harper J. Cole (talk) 10:59, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sammi Brie[edit]

Let's give that prose a bath, shall we? Sammi Brie (she/her • tc) 04:46, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • The event's main stage produced 90 century breaks, including two maximum breaks, one by Kyren Wilson in his first-round match against Ryan Day, and the other by Selby, who became the first player to make a maximum in a World Championship final. Reflow punctuation: The event's main stage produced 90 century breaks, including two maximum breaks: one by Kyren Wilson in his first-round match against Ryan Day and the other by Selby, who became the first player to make a maximum in a World Championship final.
  • It marked the 47th consecutive year that the tournament was held at the Crucible, and the 55th successive year that the World Championship was contested through the modern knockout format. Remove comma CinS
  • Doherty made a 137 break as he defeated Hammad Miah 10–6, but broached the possibility of retirement at the end of the 2023–24 season if his overall form did not improve. CinS remove comma or add "he" after "but"
  • Fan lost the first four frames against Maguire, but recovered to secure his Crucible debut with a 10–6 victory Remove comma CinS
  • Perry, who won three frames in the match on the final black ball, reached the Crucible for the first time since 2019, but stated that he felt "physically sick" afterwards because of Davis's presumed relegation. Remove comma after "2019" CinS or rephrase
  • However, Pang reduced O'Sullivan's lead to 6–3 after the first session, and came within two frames at 9–7 before O'Sullivan clinched a 10–7 victory. Remove comma after "session" CinS
  • This marked the first time Robertson had made a 146 break in professional competition, and the first time any player had made two 146 breaks in a professional match. Remove comma CinS
  • Jones won the first session 5–4, and went on to clinch the match 10–6 Remove comma CinS
  • fued typo!
  • Tournament officials halted play on table two for 45 minutes while event staff cleaned the area, and rescheduled Perry and Milkins's first session to the following evening after table one was deemed unplayable. Remove comma CinS
  • Despite the interruption, Allen completed a 126 break that he had started before play was suspended, and went on to defeat Fan 10–5 Remove comma after "suspended" CinS
  • Lisowski took a 6–3 lead in a fast-paced session where only two frames lasted longer than 15 minutes, and moved 9–4 ahead in the second session. Remove comma CinS
  • Perry won the first five frames of his rescheduled tie with Milkins, and finished the session 7–2 ahead. Remove comma CinS
  • Brecel led 9–7 after the second session, and extended his lead to 11–8 in the third session. Remove comma CinS
  • promised to "come back fighting next season." Remember your MOS:LOGICAL
  • Jones won six consecutive frames in the second session to move 10–6 ahead, and won three of the four frames played in the final session Remove comma CinS
  • "disrespectful to the game of snooker and the people who come along to watch," LOGICAL
  • O'Sullivan made another frame-winning 78 break from Vafaei's break-off, and went on to take a 6–2 lead Remove comma CinS
  • Afterwards, he said he was "so surprised" to progress to the quarter-finals, but was "honoured" to have reached that stage Remove comma, and maybe ", but was" just becomes "but"
  • Higgins potted the black after a lengthy safety battle, and went on to lead 4–1 Remove comma CinS
  • In the final session, Selby won three of the first four frames to move one from victory at 12–6. maybe move within one?
  • Three seeds, Allen, Brecel, and Selby, and one qualifier, Si, maybe Three seeds—Allen, Brecel, and Selby—and one qualifier, Si,
  • Brecel, who made just one half-century in the session, flipped the cue ball off the table with his cue while conceding the opening frame, and was told to calm down by referee Rob Spencer Remove last comma CinS
  • adding that "to win means so much in such a tough game and in such a big tournament." LOGICAL
  • said of the final session that: "I really wanted to win Unnecessary colon
  • Selby made a 123 break in the opening frame, and moved 3–2 ahead Remove comma CinS
  • Allen said he had "underperformed" in the match and was "disappointed", but commented Remove comma CinS
  • Brecel won five of the first six frames for a 5–1 lead, and finished the first session 6–2 ahead. Remove comma CinS
  • Selby made a 96 break in frame 11, and also won frame 12 Remove comma CinS
  • In the 16th frame, Selby made a maximum break, the fifth of his career, the 14th in Crucible history, and the first time a player had achieved a maximum in a World Championship final. Change second comma to a colon or dash
  • and "something I will remember for the rest of my life." LOGICAL
  • Selby said he "battled" in the final and "gave everything", but congratulated Remove comma CinS
  • Steve Davis commented that: "It's great to see Maybe Steve Davis commented, "It's great to see
  • Two players made maximum breaks of 147, Kyren Wilson in the fifth frame of his first-round match against Ryan Day, and Mark Selby in the 16th frame of the final Change first comma to colon. Remove the other comma.