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Aleeta curvicosta[edit]
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- Nominator(s): Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:49, 31 July 2013 (UTC) & 99of9 (talk · contribs)[reply]
The floury baker is a cute and loud cicada and is another critter found in my garden I have buffed for hopeful FA status. A bulk of work was done by 99of9. With two of us co-nomming we should be able to answer queries double quick...have at it..CHEEP. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:49, 31 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This is a WikiCup nomination. The following nominators are WikiCup participants: Casliber. To the nominator: if you do not intend to submit this article at the WikiCup, feel free to remove this notice. UcuchaBot (talk) 00:01, 1 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Comments from Ceranthor
- Lead
- Floury bakers are popular with children due to their distinctive appearance and loud call. - Appearances so it matches the subject
- The species is preyed upon by a wide variety of birds, cicada killer wasps and a cicada-specific fungal disease. - Is it really preyed upon by fungi?
- Description
- Measuring 9–10 cm (4 in) in length,[9] - There's no difference between the conversions for these two?
- about 200 nm in height, separated by about 180 nm. - Just impractical to convert?
- These are thought to aid in anti-reflective camouflage, anti-wetting, and self-cleaning.[12][11] - Keep the lack of serial comma consistent, and don't use it here!
- The abdominal tracheal air sacs surround the sound muscles and extend into the abdomen, acting as a resonant chamber to amplify sound. - Does each act as a chamber? Then it should be chambers.
- ,[18] and has been rhetorically termed "the best musician of them all".[5] - Rhetorically?
- Life cycle
- growing and feeding through their rostrum on the sap from tree roots, moulting five times, before emerging from the ground to shed their final shell.[21][22] - This sentence is a mess!
- It then extracts its head and clypeus by hunching its body, and when they are out, arches back to draw the legs out of their casing.[22] - Changing plurality of subject?
- Distribution
- The floury baker is found from the Daintree River in North Queensland through to Bendalong in southern New South Wales.[3] - Could we get rid of "through" and just use to?
- Predation
- brush wattlebirds, white-faced herons, and even the nocturnal tawny frogmouth, - Serial comma absence should stay consistent!
Good work. ceranthor 05:57, 2 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Support. ceranthor 15:34, 2 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Support Comments from Jim I must have heard these without knowing what they were. Generally sound, but a few infelicities. Jimfbleak - talk to me? 07:47, 3 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Its eyes and body are generally brown with pale patterns including a pale line—two "pale"s, and seems odd to put eyes before body
- The female is larger than the male, although their size—clunky change from singular to plural even if grammatical
- changed to "although species size overall... " Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:36, 3 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- A solitary cicada...—lots of "can"s in this para
- one removed, leaving two. Removing either of the remaining leaves alternatives that are wordier... Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:57, 3 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- uncal lobes—redlinked and unexplained
- specific term used in describing cicada male genitalia. Need to think about this.... Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 21:49, 3 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- The floury baker gains its common...—lots of "common"s in this para
- 9–10 cm (4 in) in length,[9] with forewings between 3 and 5.1 cm (1.4–2 in) long,—If you are converting to 1 sig fig, the second range should be 1–2. If to 2 sig fig, the first should be 3.5–3.9 and the second 1.4–2.0
- Their wings are transparent—Preceding sentences have a singular subject, what does "their" refer too?
- changed to definite article - clearly the cicada..... Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 21:06, 3 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- one second sibilant—hyphen, I think
- they are often found on various species of Melaleuca... It was associated—change from plural to singular
- wrens —you are hereby expelled from the bird project (: follow the link...
- bearded dragons (a large lizard)—change from plural to singular
- 100 meters. —AE
- They are then shoved into the hunter's burrow, where the numb cicada—numb is something of an understatement, "paralysed"
- changed to "helpless" - as we already have a paralyse just before... Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 21:09, 3 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Personally I wouldn't link to publications in refs. I'm particularly unconvinced by redlinks to publications
- ref 1 espšces typo, I think, looks more like Serbian than French. What's "Latr." short for? You can link to the paper
- Latr. Pierre André Latreille (genus authority fixed), typo fixed - Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 21:40, 3 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- ref 15 has the journal's publisher, others don't
Comments from Crisco 1492
- Images are all okay - All given free licenses by their authors, no qualms over copyright here. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:19, 3 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Individuals typically emerge through - Emerge from what?
- Enough for today. I've done some copyediting. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:19, 3 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Shouldn't the bird names all have initial capitals?
- Any parasites?
- No mention of them sometimes perching while facing upwards?
- Behaviour section feels awfully light
- can only add what's in source. The information on some organisms can be meagre Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:44, 4 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- I've found an extra source and added a paragraph about their flight inabilities. Please proofread. --99of9 (talk) 04:11, 5 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks. Any clarification of what "moderate" means? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:44, 5 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- re User:Crisco 1492: They used an average which included an arbitrary negative value if the cicada failed to react at all. So I can't give a useful numerical value, but I can say that it's in the middle of the pack compared to the other Australian cicadas they studied. "moderate" was my word for this, but there may be something better. --99of9 (talk) 06:06, 5 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Alright, that will be fine then. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:16, 5 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- I've found an extra source and added a paragraph about their flight inabilities. Please proofread. --99of9 (talk) 04:11, 5 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- can only add what's in source. The information on some organisms can be meagre Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:44, 4 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- That's it from me. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:11, 4 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Support on prose and images. Seems reasonably accessible to a dolt like me, though I'll admit that some parts were quite technical. Good job guys, (and kinda feeling pleased as this work began not long after the POTD was selected... glad to see that section of the page gets articles written) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:23, 4 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Support - Read this pre-nom and post this stage of the FAC review. Supporting on the basis of its use of high quality sources, its comprehensiveness and for its clarity of writing. Small niggles I can look after myself. Ceoil (talk) 20:39, 9 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comments. Prose and MoS needs some tweaking; will be back soon with a lit review and check of sources. Sasata (talk) 19:52, 13 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- link authorities: Maxwell Sydney Moulds,Walter Wilson Froggatt, Carl Stål, Frederic Webster Goding, William Lucas Distant
- what is the format for listing the synonyms? It appears to be neither alphabetical nor by year of appearance
- "It is native to the continent's eastern coastlines; described in 1834 by Ernst Friedrich Germar." fix grammar
- "light coloured line" needs hyphen
- link genus earlier, link Aleeta
- "The male has
verydistinctive genitalia" (another instance later)
- "It is solitary and occurs in low densities." What is "It"? The species, or the male, described in the previous sentence?
- "Germar used two specimens now in the Hope Entomological Collections, Oxford, but did not designate a type specimen and their exact locations was not recorded." Used them for what? was->were
- link genetic distance
- ensure short-form binomials have non-breaking spaces
- what's an uncal lobe?
- Aleeta's and Tryella's I think it's probably best to avoid using the possessive forms of Latin names, but at the very least, the apostrophe + s should not be italicized
- "…and both the vernacular terms baker and miller were known to be in use by 1860." can we remove "known to be"?
- "another species of Australian cicada (Altria perulata, now Arunta perulata) which has white "sacks" " which->that (please audit the rest of the article for which/that usage)
- "With a body length of 2.9 centimetres" no need to spell out the unit here
- "Their dry mass is around 36.2% of their total bodymass" odd to give the qualifier "around" and then such a accurate figure; perhaps replace "is around" with "is on average"?
- "The female is slightly larger than the male,[3] She has generally similar colourings" fix
- "…at the base of apical cells 2 and 3." how many apical cells are there?
- "continuous zigzag infuscation" infuscation is jargony, is there a more accessible replacement word?
- discoloration->discolouration
- link nanometre
- "The male call can be heard at any time of day" Really? Wouldn't it be more accurate to say something like "The male makes its calls throughout the day"?
- 7-10 s -> endash, not hyphen
- "The tune has been described" Is it accurate to call the insect sounds a "tune"?
- link Hz, sound frequency, resonance, modulation
- "
verywide range of native…"
- link introduced
- "The metabolic rate over a period of about 6.5 hours during emergence of A. curvicosta is about 1.8 times the resting metabolic rate of the adult." So…? It seems obvious that an actively emerging nymph will be more active than a resting adult.
- provide link & Latin binomial for broad-leaved paperbark earlier
- link Sydney
- "92 day emergence period" needs hyphen
- is it "South East Queensland" or "South-East Queensland"?
- citations are unnecessarily repeated for the final 4 sentences of the 2nd paragraph of section "Life cycle"
- "and mating and egglaying occurs." -> "and mating and egg laying occur."
- what is the Massospora fungus that infects this insect? How does it "affect" the genitalia and abdominal cavity?
- I've had a stab at this, but perhaps a specialist on fungal taxa could bluelink it :-). 99of9 (talk) 03:31, 14 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Source review Sasata (talk) 19:41, 15 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- ref#2 missing issue#
- retrieval dates not required for online versions of print documents (several instances)
- The Moulds (1990) source is repeated several times in the references. Could you place this source under a subsection "Bibliography" (or similar) and convert these to short-form citations?
- ref#8 needs a date
- article case and page range format are different in ref#9; MacNally given as single word in doi page
- page range format ref#15
- author format ref#17
- case format refs#18, 19
- is there a space between author initials (e.g. #17) or not (e.g. #23)
- something's a bit different about the format of book ref#27 (note the comma after the year)
- ref#31: childrens->children's
Ok, sources look fine. A lit search of my own failed to turn up any omissions pertaining to WIAFA criteria 1b and 1c. As a final suggestion, it would not be a bad idea to indicate the sources used for the synonyms in the "synonyms_ref" parameter of the taxobox. I support the promotion of this candidacy to FA. Sasata (talk) 03:55, 16 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Closing note: This candidate has been promoted, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see WP:FAC/ar, and leave the {{featured article candidates}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through. Ian Rose (talk) 04:29, 17 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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