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The article was promoted by Ian Rose via FACBot (talk) 22:36, 30 January 2018 [1].

Anne Hathaway[edit]

Nominator(s): FrB.TG (talk) 16:47, 9 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Anne Hathaway is a talented and beautiful actress, who has played roles in a range of films. I started expanding her article (for Wikipedia:WikiCup and what I have stated in the beginning) from New Year's Day. I recently got a very helpful feedback from Ceranthor. Any constructive criticism appreciated. FrB.TG (talk) 16:47, 9 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sources review[edit]

First column:

  • Ref 3: Retrieval date missing
  • Ref 4: Link does not go to the stated page
  • Ref 7: Title should correspond to what's given in the source
  • Ref 13: Likewise.
  • Ref 20: Link not working – error message
Removed.
  • Ref 32: Needs a page number
I do not have access to that and have thus replaced it with an online-available source.
  • Ref 34: It isn't necessary to include a quotation from the source – that is the purpose of the link.
  • Ref 54: The publisher appears to be Ebert Digital LLC, not Chicago Sun-Times.
  • Ref 67: What makes Drew Tewksbury a high quality reliable source?
I thought a lot about removing it during expansion, but believed it would be okay since it's an official interview. Removed now.
  • Ref 70: The paper's proper title is The Daily Telegraph

More later. Brianboulton (talk) 21:46, 14 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Have done all those things above. Thank you. FrB.TG (talk) 19:25, 15 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Second column

  • Ref 78: link returns an error message
  • Ref 93: link goes to a different Toronto Sun page
  • Ref 100: link goes to a different MTV page
  • Ref 107: I can't find this title on the linked page
  • Ref 111: "Christopher Orr" is not part of the title
  • Ref 132: The linked page is a list of winners, not nominations. Is this the intended source? If so the title should be amended to what the source says.
It lists both winners and nominees.

Final column to follow. Brianboulton (talk) 22:13, 18 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Simply removed "deadurl=no" from these sources to show the archive link as the main one. I have used "Autofill" for titles when citing sources that's why some of the sources titles are different (than their sources); they write what can be seen on the tab as the title. FrB.TG (talk) 22:35, 19 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, Brian. In this edit, I went through every later source to make sure the titles correspond with what given in the sources and remove "deadurl=no" if the links have died. Do you think you could finish review sometime soon? Thanks. FrB.TG (talk) 18:53, 28 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, I thought I had posted my clearance on the third column. Nothing amiss there. You can consider the sources review completed satisfactorily. Brianboulton (talk) 20:05, 28 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Ceranthor[edit]

  • "She is married to businessman Adam Shulman, with whom she has a son." - name?
Removed back per WP:MINORS.
  • Keep the absence or presence of the serial comma consistent throughout. Looks like you're mostly not using it, but I see it in the lead ("Hathaway has also sung for soundtracks, won an Emmy Award for providing her voice in a television show, appeared on stage, and hosted events.")
  • " won an Emmy Award for providing her voice in a television show" - which show?
  • "participated in many plays, including performance as Winnifred in Once Upon a Mattress.[11] " - not grammatically correct as is ("including performance")
  • "She has stated she would have either become an English teacher or psychologist if she were not acting." - stated that
  • "She cites Garland as one of her favorite actresses.[10] " - kind of disjointed within the flow of its paragraph; either tie it in or move it somewhere else
  • 'Hathaway said that "anybody who was a role model for children needs a reprieve", but noted that "it's lovely to think that my audience is growing up with me"' - think it would help to mention when she said this.

More comments forthcoming. ceranthor 17:19, 18 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

All done. Look forward to the rest. FrB.TG (talk) 19:48, 18 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • " Peter Travers of Rolling Stone believed that Hathaway "excels at showing Lureen's journey from cutie-pie to hard case" and Todd McCarthy of Variety opined she "provides an entertaining contrast in wifely disappointment"." - comma after hard case"
  • "Meryl Streep, whom Hathaway described as being "just divine".[5] " - probably don't need this bit after "whom"
  • "Charles Isherwood opined that Hathaway "dives smoothly and with obvious pleasure into the embrace of a cohesive ensemble cast".[71]" - needs something like "Of her performance" or "Describing her performance" at the beginning
  • "She also won a Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Voice-Over Performance for providing her voice for the episode "Once Upon a Time in Springfield" in The Simpsons.[73]" - what year? I'd also adjust the flow of this sentence by adding "In X year, she also won..."
  • "Hathaway voiced different characters in Family Guy in 2010 and 2011.[74][75] " - I'd move this up to the end of the previous paragraph, since it relates to her voice work with The Simpsons better than the rest of this paragraph
  • "the film grossed $1 billion to become the second highest-grossing of 2010.[80]" - second highest-grossing movie maybe? Missing film/movie makes it read awkwardly.
  • "Preparing for the nude scenes," - the film's nude scenes... adding that word is important, I think, because it currently reads as abrupt by just saying "the nude scenes"
  • 'Hathaway's portrayal, of what Ebert called "warm, lovable"' - grammatically, this doesn't make sense... maybe you're missing a word?
  • "than Franco, who they felt seemed uninterested." - think it should be "whom"
I think who is correct here. If we use "whom" to refer to Franco, it would read as the critics felt Franco (as in feeling him) not that they felt Franco seemed uninterested.
  • "Hathaway was clandestinely given the script as One Day was set in the UK and Scherfig was not looking for any American actresses for the part." - comma after UK
  • ""Sometimes she's from Scotland, sometimes she's from New York, you just can't tell"." - it's implied, but you should be clear that this quote refers to Hathaway per the source
  • " for Audie Award for Best Solo Narration" - an Audie Award
  • "Wanting to work with her favorites, DeNiro and Meyers," - favorites? elaborate?
  • "Hathaway purchased an apartment worth $2.55 million in Upper West Side" - you should clarify that the UWS is a neighborhood in Manhattan
  • "In 2008, she began smoking" - cigarettes?
Doesn't say what she smoked. Maybe everything? ;-)
  • "She later became a vegan in early 2012,[162] but quit while filming Interstellar in August 2014.[163]" - has she tried resuming it at all, or is she still no longer vegan?
Haven't found a source that says she is a vegan again.
  • "Hathaway currently serves on the board of The Lollipop Theatre Network, and is involved with charities The Creative Coalition, St. Jude Children's Research Hospital, The Human Rights Campaign.[170][171]' - serial comma issue and I think an "and" is missing
  • I suspect that many of the links in the "Works and accolades" section have already been linked. I'm not sure it's necessary to link them again.

Nice work on this article. This should constitute all of my prose comments. ceranthor 20:48, 18 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your thorough review here and at Talk:Anne Hathaway#Comments from Ceranthor. Very much appreciated. FrB.TG (talk) 22:35, 19 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
No problem. Support per 1a. ceranthor 23:30, 19 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Image review[edit]

The photo is uploaded by MFF but taken by Rene G. Clarified there.
All images have ALT text. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 12:33, 19 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the image review.

Comments by Panagiotis Zois[edit]

Lead section:

  • In the lead, the Batman link to the trilogy needs to be fixed. Use this. Also, I'd recommend changing it to "The Dark Knight trilogy".
  • You mention Hathaway's role as the White Queen in the Alice sequel but don't mention the original film. I think you should add that at the end of the second paragraph.

Early life:

  • In the lead, and the infobox, it's stated that Hathaway's middle name is Jackqueline; yet here you refer to her as Anne Jack Hathaway.
  • You refer to Hathaway's mother as Kate first but then as Kathleen. Be consistent.
  • Damn, psychologist or English teacher? I think I love her even more than before.

More comments will come up. PanagiotisZois (talk) 22:25, 19 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. All addressed and looking forward to the rest of your review. FrB.TG (talk) 16:30, 20 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

2001–2004: Debut and breakthrough:

  • The Princess Diaries should be linked.
  • I don't really mind it but are you sure "she famously fell" is necessary? If you think so I don't mind.
  • I'm not sure "indifferent reviews" is the best description. Do you mean negative ones, mixed?
  • When you say that she sang three song on the soundtrack do you mean an additional three song (thus five overal) or the two she sang in the film plus one?
  • I just have to say, considering the length of this article, besides a few nitpicks it's extremely well-written.
Thank you. For the first comment, TPD is already linked in the early life section. Otherwise done. FrB.TG (talk) 21:06, 22 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

2005–2008: Transition to adult roles and greater success:

  • Since this article is about Hathaway, there is no reason to include Streep's part in the Rotten Tomatoes description.
I would agree if it were a normal review, but this is a general consensus among critics. I don't know, it feels a little incomplete without part.
  • My grammar isn't perfect but when it says that Hathaway dropped out of Knocked Up, shouldn't it say "[she] believeD it" rather than "believes"?
  • Regarding Hathaway's role in Rachel Getting Married you just say that she plays a young woman but then mention her character's name is Kym. While I get who you're talking about I still think you should mention the character's name earlier as well to avoid potential confusion.

2012–2014: Les Misérables and films with Christopher Nolan:

  • Regarding the Washington Posts's review, you don't need to use a capital T.

2015–present: The Intern and beyond

  • Did she lipsync both of those song or did she and Blunt sing one each?
  • I think you need to rework "she auditioned for the third time". At first glance it looks like she had to go into an audition for the role three times. Maybe say "this was the third time Hathaway had auditioned for a Myers film".

Personal life and other work:

  • In the second paragraph, you say Hathaway way (damnit) too often. Sometimes replace it with just "she".

@FrB.TG: Alright, I went through the entire article. The above, are the only things that need changing. PanagiotisZois (talk) 20:48, 24 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

And I have resolved these. Thank you for the comments. FrB.TG (talk) 20:56, 24 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I'm glad to give my support to this article. I'm really happy of the work you've done here. The article really does look amazing. PanagiotisZois (talk) 21:00, 24 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Moise[edit]

  • “Directed by Peter Segal, the film, centering on an analyst named who dreams of becoming a real field agent and a better spy, was a financial success”: There seems to be a name missing here after “named”. Moisejp (talk) 16:25, 22 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, Moise. Simply removed "named" as the character has two names, adding which will be overkill in Hathaway's article. FrB.TG (talk) 17:41, 22 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Hathaway previously served as a long-term advocate for the Nike Foundation to raise awareness against child marriage." I'm not saying it's impossible, but "previously" feels a little awkward and unclear here. Was it previously in relation to Interstellar? There doesn't seem to be any clear relationship.
  • "she has also been honored for her work with Step Up Women's Network.[168] She then teamed up in 2010 with World Bank in a two-year development program". Grammatically awkward to have the present perfect ("has been honored") with "then" + the simple past ("teamed up"). Moisejp (talk) 05:49, 24 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Both done. FrB.TG (talk) 20:56, 24 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Vedant[edit]

  • The second line in the opening paragraph: "One of the world's highest-paid actresses in 2015, she appeared in the Forbes Celebrity 100 in 2009" is really the best part of the lead. I mean what does her being in Forbes 100 in 2009 have to do with her earnings in 2015. This would be work better if the earnings bit be combined with her film earning $6 billion. That might just be me though.
  • Not too sure if televisions shows should have year mentioned​ the way it has been. Get Real ran for two years I believe.
  • You could replace the last occurrence of "Hathaway" in the third paragraph with "She".
  • Same with the last paragraph of the Early Life section.
  • The first half of the secomd paragraph of the Early Life section overuses the word "Hathaway". Why don't to use her mother's first name Instead of calling​ her "Hatchway's mother"? That can be done once or twice?

More to follow. VedantTalk 09:48, 25 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • You might want to rethink the two large quotations in the In the media section. Not sure what they add to the article, considering it's the subject talking about herself. VedantTalk 16:02, 25 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I don't think of them as large, but one or both of them could possibly be paraphrased, I think. Otherwise I have resolved your other comments. FrB.TG (talk) 19:55, 25 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Continued:

  • "The fantasy romantic comedy film Ella Enchanted (2004), in which she played the titular character, also performed poorly at the box-office." - I think you should use Hathaway here instead of the next sentence.
  • You might want to mention the release year for Hoodwinked! and Havoc.
  • Do you think that it's worth mentioning that Valentine's Day features a bug ensemble cast?
Well it does say that the film is an ensemble rom-com. I think that should be enough.
  • "After a nonproductive meeting with Scherfig, Hathaway left a list of songs for her, who after listening to them, cast the actress for the part." - It's a little vague IMO.
The footnote should clarify this.
  • "That March, it was reported that she would reprise her role for The Princess Diaries 3." - It would help if we knew what March. There is no mention of the year in the previous sentence, not for the release of Alice.
  • Now here: "science fiction black comedy film Colossal (2016)", you don't need to mention the year, because you do it at the beginning of the sentence.
  • You could avoid the repetition of "In X Year, she joined the cast of Y project" in the last paragraph of the section.

That's pretty much. Fine work. VedantTalk 17:48, 28 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. These should be resolved by now. FrB.TG (talk) 18:53, 28 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I support the nomination. Good luck. VedantTalk 07:06, 29 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Aoba47[edit]

  • I would think that a more detailed caption for the infobox image would be needed (i.e. where was this picture taken).
  • For this part (In 2012, Hathaway starred as Catwoman in her highest-grossing film The Dark Knight Rises (2012),), would it be more accurate to say that she played Selina Kyle as her character in the Nolan film was never called Catwoman to the best of my knowledge. I apologize for this as it is rather nitpicky.
Absolutely no need to apologize. In fact thanks for bringing it up; despite having seen the film, I never noticed it.
  • For this part (final installment in the Batman trilogy.), it really is the Dark Knight Trilogy not the Batman trilogy. I would correct this in the lead and the “2012–2014: Les Misérables and films with Christopher Nolan” subsection.
  • For this part (in Tom Hooper's musical romantic drama Les Misérables (2012)), I would clarify that it is an adaptation of the musical as it can read to an unfamiliar reader that this is an original production.
I think it's over-kill for the lead. It is, however, mentioned in the main body.
  • For this sentence (Later, she appeared in plays, including Jane Eyre and Gigi, at New Jersey's Paper Mill Playhouse.), do we know what parts she played in both?
  • I think that this sentence (For the filming of her cinematic debut The Princess Diaries (2001), Hathaway missed her first college semester.) would read better in reverse (i.e. Hathaway missed her first college semester for the filming of her cinematic debut The Princess Diaries (2001)).
  • I am not quite sure about the Venice premiere image. It is rather low-quality in my opinion. I would replace it with a better image (either of her during the time period or of someone related to the work that she had done in that time period) or remove it altogether. However, this is up to you. I just wanted to point it out for discussion.
  • Link Gary Marshall
It's actually Garry (thanks for bringing it up; corrected) and is already linked in the beginning of career section.
  • Would it be noteworthy or beneficial to include a small sentence about how Hathaway talking about feeling internalized misogyny when working with Lone Scherfig for One Day?
Thanks for this. Added.
  • For this sentence (Preparing for the role, Hathaway consumed fewer than 500 calories a day to lose 25 pounds (11 kg), researched prostitution, and cut her hair.), you use the Oxford comma, but you do not use it in other places. Be consistent either way.
  • For this part (she lip synced "Love" by Mary J. Blige and "Wrecking Ball" by Miley Cyrus.), I would add the years in which the original songs were released.
  • For this sentence (Hathaway began 2015 with an appearance in the first season of the musical reality show Lip Sync Battle (2015).), I do not believe that the (2015) part is necessary as it is rather repetetive.
  • For this part (Hathaway and Streisand perform the song At The Ballet from), the song title should be in quotation marks and not in italics.
  • For this part (later comparing it to Being John Malkovich, one of her favorite films), I would add the year in which the film was released.

Great work with this article! Once my comments are addressed, I will support this for promotion. Aoba47 (talk) 05:41, 26 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Aoba, thank you for your review; some really great suggestions. Hopefully I have resolved your comments to your satisfaction. FrB.TG (talk) 21:15, 26 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thank you for addressing everything, and I completely agree with all of your responses to my comment. I support this for promotion. If possible, I would greatly appreciate it if you could provide reviews for my current FAC (Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/All Souls (TV series)/archive1). Either way, great work with this article, and I hope that you have a wonderful day and/or night! Aoba47 (talk) 21:58, 26 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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