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The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was promoted by Ian Rose via FACBot (talk) 11:58, 5 September 2018 [1].

Banksia blechnifolia[edit]

Nominator(s): Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 10:25, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, another banksia (like the other 32 FAs). Still, as a body of work I wanted to get them all featured. Anyway, short and sweet. It's comprehensive (I scoured the sources) and should read okay. Have at it. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 10:25, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Ceranthor
  • "Banksia blechnifolia is a species of flowering plant in the plant genus Banksia native to Western Australia" - are both the species and the genus native to Western Australia? bit unclear to me
if I do this, does that help? Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:44, 25 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • "The fur on older stems turns grey with age. The leathery herringbone leaves rise vertically from the stems on thick 5–18 cm (2–7 in) long petioles, which have two narrow ribs on the undersurface. The leaves themselves are 25–45 cm (10–17 1⁄2 in) long, with 8–22 deep lobes on each leaf edge. These lobes are narrowly triangular to roughly linear in shape and 2–5 cm (3⁄4–2 in) long. They are either oppositely or alternately arranged along the leaf midline, and arise at 60–80 degrees. The leaf blade narrows for the top third of its length to a pointed apex" - lots of "the", "they"... perhaps a bit more varied sentence structure?
Man, that's quite hard - I did this to liven it up... Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:57, 25 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • "The individual flowers are reddish pink with a cream base. The perianth is 2.8–3.2 cm (1 1⁄8–1 1⁄4 in) long, includes a 3.5–5 mm limb and is covered in fine fur. The old flowers fade to light brown and then grey, and remain on the spike, obscuring the developing seed pods known as follicles." - same as above
I tried this. Hard going... Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 21:01, 25 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Von Mueller wrote of it again in 1869 as a variety of B. repens, giving it the name Banksia pinnatisecta.[5] The species was then mostly forgotten until 1931, when it was collected again by William Blackall and Charles Gardner near Middle Mt Barren" - Middle Mt Barren, which is what? is there a relevant link? if not, a brief description would be useful since it's meaningless to a lay reader like myself
It lies in Fitzgerald River National Park - both West and East Mount Barren have pages but the middle one appears less notable...sigh. So linked to parent article/location Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:56, 26 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • References look good.

Happy to support once my minor concerns are addressed. ceranthor 18:45, 25 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Cas Liber, I think the changes look fine. Feel free to change anything back to a previous version if you feel uncomfortable with any of the changes you've made. ceranthor 23:20, 25 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
your changes are fine. @Ceranthor: I got everything, right? Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 06:24, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Yup. ceranthor 14:51, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

From FunkMonk[edit]

  • I'll do the layman review.
  • Shouldn't the infobox caption begin with a capital letter?
yes/done. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:24, 10 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Not all people mentioned are presented.
got 'em all now (I think...). Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:24, 10 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Is this detail worth showing?[2] What is it?
a growing stem and leaves - yes/added. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:24, 10 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • "With respect to B. blechnifolia, Mast's results have some semblance to George and Thiele's, as B. repens, B. chamaephyton and B. blechnifolia form a closely knit group within this group, and the overall inferred phylogeny is very different from George's arrangement." But/though?
yes/done. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:24, 10 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • "found that it diverged from a" Last name you mentioned was the genus name, so perhaos spell out the specific name instead of just "it".
yes/done. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:24, 10 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • "from material collected in 1861 by G. Maxwell" Is it known where it was collected?
I think I would have added it if known - but will check again. it was only recorded as "southwestern Australia", so not strictly unknown but not helpful either. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:27, 10 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • "and take 14 to 49 days to germinate.[18] B. blechnifolia takes 4–5 years to flower from seed." If this is true to the species in general, doesn't it belong elsewhere in the article? Seems to be about the life cycle rather than just cultivation.
have tweaked it - that is how long it takes to flower in cultivation. Not sure how long it takes in nature (probably the same) but is not specified thus in the source. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:27, 10 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • "and no subspecies are recognised" Only stated in the intro.
added. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:29, 10 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - looks good to me now. FunkMonk (talk) 12:42, 11 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Image review - Just to get this over with, all images are appropriately sourced and licensed. FunkMonk (talk) 13:42, 20 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
thx Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:56, 20 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by Dudley[edit]

  • "Banksia blechnifolia is a species of flowering plant in the plant genus Banksia that is native to Western Australia." This is ambiguous whether it is the species or the genus which is native to Western Australia.
removed as distribution described elsewhere in lead. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:49, 29 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • "They are finely covered in rusty-brown fur, which turns grey with age." I am not sure what this means. Covered in fine fur?
yes/done. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:47, 29 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Banksia blechnifolia is a prostrate shrub that grows to about 50 cm (19 1⁄2 in) high and spreads to 2–4 m (6 1⁄2–13 ft) across." I assumed at first the lead image was of the whole plant, but I see that it is of an inflorescence. This should be made clear in the label.
yes/done. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:46, 29 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Is there no image of the whole plant available? The inflorescences in bud and grey are very similar and I do not think both are needed.
replaced that image with one of whole plant. Plant is usually flatter than that in the picture but at least we have one. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:46, 29 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
thx! Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:28, 30 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Coord note[edit]

Source review? Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 11:19, 30 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Source review - spotchecks not done

  • Archive/accessdate format should be consistent throughout
aligned Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 03:40, 31 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • FN9 link is dead so |deadurl= should be set to yes
tweaked Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 03:40, 31 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Fn13: series title is generally not included as part of the title
tweaked Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 03:44, 31 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Why include state for Melbourne but not Port Melbourne?
laziness, fixed Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 03:40, 31 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
added Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 03:40, 31 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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