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The article was promoted by Ian Rose 10:03, 26 May 2013 (UTC) [1].[reply]

Banksia dentata[edit]

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Nominator(s): Casliber (talk · contribs) 01:40, 7 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured article because I think it is on par with the other 23 Banksia featured articles. I was expanding it for DYK and enjoyed writing about it so kept going. It benefitted from a thorough GA review by J Milburn. Have at it. Casliber (talk · contribs) 01:40, 7 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • Note: This is a WikiCup nomination. The following nominators are WikiCup participants: Casliber. To the nominator: if you do not intend to submit this article at the WikiCup, feel free to remove this notice. UcuchaBot (talk) 00:01, 8 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Support Comments from Jim the usual nitpicks Jimfbleak - talk to me? 09:02, 10 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • Suggest links for genetic, tessellated, monotypic, cladistic, diarrhea.
linked Casliber (talk · contribs) 11:43, 10 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Obovate" is linked twice in Description, and the " Flora of Australia " twice in Placement
repeated links delinked Casliber (talk · contribs) 11:31, 10 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • species of tree in the plant genus Banksia.—"plant" is redundant, no animal trees
removed Casliber (talk · contribs) 11:31, 10 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • The cylindrical yellow flower spikes, known as inflorescences (x2) — I'm always wary of "known as", perhaps The cylindrical yellow inflorescences (flower spikes)
hmm, why? parenthesized and de-known... Casliber (talk · contribs) 11:31, 10 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Initially covered in reddish hair that disappears— the Cheshire Cat springs to mind. Fall off? Wear away?
aaah "wears away" is good.... Casliber (talk · contribs) 11:31, 10 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • wavy (undulate) —odd to use an technical word to explain a common one, instead of the other way round
switched Casliber (talk · contribs) 11:31, 10 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Newly-opened flower spikes smell like corn—does this mean sweetcorn? Perhaps a link would help
hmm, not thrilled on this one, seems a pretty obvious term? Is there any other corn...? Sweet corn seems the most appropriate destination I agree. Casliber (talk · contribs) 11:43, 10 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • 1.5–2 cm long, 0.4–0.8 cm high and 0.5–0.8 cm wide. —I don't like the conversion policy, but you have converted similar lengths later in the same paragraph. Also a switch between cm and mm for similar lengths seems inconsistent
only left the smallest ones in mm now. converting mm ones seems silly. all others now have conversions Casliber (talk · contribs) 11:57, 10 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • as far south as Katherine Gorge and into Queensland, where it is found on the Cape York Peninsula to as far south as Cooktown—possible to avoid repeat of "as far south"?
rejigged Casliber (talk · contribs) 11:43, 10 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • It is the only Banksia species not endemic to Australia—any indication whether human agency was involved?
I am pretty well 100% sure all sources and authorities assume not, though none explicitly say this. Casliber (talk · contribs) 11:43, 10 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • common blossom bat (Syconycteris australis) —for consistency, I'd either lose this binomial or add for the glider.
fixed Casliber (talk · contribs) 11:46, 10 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • It was introduced into the United Kingdom in 1822. —"It" has become detached from its intended subject.
fixed Casliber (talk · contribs) 11:46, 10 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I suppose corn was pretty obvious, although in the UK it's often used more widely to refer to any cereal. Anyway, all done, changed to support above Jimfbleak - talk to me? 14:56, 10 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Source review - spotchecks not done

  • Suggest columns for footnotes
mitosed Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:56, 11 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Where is Brunsvigae?
it's Braunschweig.....i.e. Brunswick... Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:55, 11 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • FN8: doubled period
fixed Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:48, 11 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Be consistent on when you specify country - you've got "London" and later "London, United Kingdom", "Paris, France" but just "Leipzig"...
aligned Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:48, 11 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It is a Thesis for a Masters of Science awarded in 1979. It contains a large amount of fieldwork which is invaluable. Some of the conclusions have been superceded and are expressed as his rather than general ones, if used. It was vetted at the time and has been used as a citation in other peer reviewed publications (it's a specialised field so doesn't appear much....) Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:43, 11 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Support nicely written, I made one small tweak, otherwise I'm happy with the prose. ϢereSpielChequers 20:27, 11 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

thx for the support - tweak looks good - can't believe I left that "not" there....hmmmm..... Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:45, 11 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comments from Crisco 1492 (as part of WP:Indonesia)

Addressed comments by Crisco 1492 moved to talk; image check already conducted

  • Support on prose and images. Looks fairly solid now. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:06, 18 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by Cwmhiraeth - It reads well and I found it difficult to find anything much to quibble about.

  • Now Supporting on the basis of prose and comprehensiveness. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:07, 18 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • I favour conversion measurements that reflect the accuracy of the original. Thus "up to 13 cm" should convert to 5 rather than 5.1 in.
I must admit I was tempted to do that from the outset...rounded Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:01, 18 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • In other parts of the article you have rounded conversions where appropriate but you have failed to provide some imperial measure equivalents in the last paragraph of the "Description" section.
Both are in mm and getting to ranges where measuring in inches looks a bit silly I thought Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:01, 18 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • The first sentence in "Taxonomy" has two "by"s which makes it a bit awkward. It is also too long and convoluted in my opinion.
trimme bit that was a bit general and obiovus anyway Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:17, 18 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Others from the same region ..." - Other what?
names - done Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:01, 18 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • The sentence starting "On Melville Island ..." in the Distribution section is also too long and convoluted.
I'd split it with a semicolon - do you think a period and proper split is better? Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:05, 18 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • "...in the transition from rainforest to open climate..." - Is "rainforest" a type of climate then?
oops, meant habitat. changed Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:03, 18 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • The lead section states it is rarely cultivated but the Cultivation section does not.
removed offending sentence Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:17, 18 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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