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The article was archived by Laser brain via FACBot (talk) 22:22, 29 January 2016 [1].
Briarcliff Farms[edit]
I wrote this article out of interest for what preceded Briarcliff Manor, New York, and what Walter William Law was so devoted to for much of his life. I was very surprised to find more information on the farm than I probably had about the village itself; the farm was incredibly well documented in its time. I found plenty of photographs and accounts in very surprising places, and to be honest this article should now be one of the most useful and comprehensive accounts of the farm and its history. After reaching Good Article status and going through a thorough GOCE copyedit, I feel that it's comprehensive and ready for Featured Article status. This is my fifth FA nomination; the first two were for the October 19, 2014 TFA Briarcliff Manor, the next two were for the July 25, 2015 TFA Elliott Fitch Shepard. Please don't hesitate to comment, review, critique, or even edit the article. ɱ (talk · vbm · coi) 00:20, 25 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Sorry is this about the land or the business as its not clear, its moves around and focuses on the land then on business then on the land and back to the business again. Personally it needs a POV either business or land because as it is I got lost in the story you were trying to tell and stopped reading. On the written side this Law's farm had 500 workers, cattle, pigs, chickens, Thoroughbred horses, pheasants, peacocks and sheep at its peak.[16] - mixed capitals, really were workers in the same count as cattle pigs etc I think it needs a bit more work for FA. Gnangarra 05:55, 27 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- @Gnangarra: I'm sorry you feel that way; the topic is very complex, and it is difficult to arrange the information so everyone thinks it's in the proper order. I could've done it chronologically, but seeing as there were so many changes from 1890 to 1968, and many details of the farm aren't pinpointed to specific years, that would be difficult. So it's arranged with some history, but the bulk of the material is in the farm's locations and its operations. Do you recommend I move the School of Practical Agriculture information to a new article? Would it meet notability guidelines in a separate article? And yes, workers were included with the other animals in the source material; I don't think that's too weird or important enough to change. I also don't see where you're going with by saying 'mixed capitals', are you referring to 'Thoroughbred', which is always capitalized? So please give me some clearer recommendations about how you feel this article could be clearer or read better. ɱ (talk · vbm · coi) 17:16, 27 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- @Ɱ: sorry for the delay I spent a while considering how to address the confusion I had while reading the article, I think that the History section and Location sections could be combine into one chronological section. Gnangarra 05:01, 3 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- @Gnangarra: That's fine, I'm actually rather busy myself. As for merging, I can't see any possible way of doing that without making a mess of things. Both sections are pretty long as they are; why combine them to make one that'll be far too long? Plus it's probably easier to understand the farm's size, operations, and other details related to its different locations with this location section. You'd have to hunt through the history section to find that if they were to be merged. Do you have any other comments or suggestions? ɱ (talk · vbm · coi) 18:21, 9 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- @Ɱ: sorry for the delay I spent a while considering how to address the confusion I had while reading the article, I think that the History section and Location sections could be combine into one chronological section. Gnangarra 05:01, 3 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- @Gnangarra: I'm sorry you feel that way; the topic is very complex, and it is difficult to arrange the information so everyone thinks it's in the proper order. I could've done it chronologically, but seeing as there were so many changes from 1890 to 1968, and many details of the farm aren't pinpointed to specific years, that would be difficult. So it's arranged with some history, but the bulk of the material is in the farm's locations and its operations. Do you recommend I move the School of Practical Agriculture information to a new article? Would it meet notability guidelines in a separate article? And yes, workers were included with the other animals in the source material; I don't think that's too weird or important enough to change. I also don't see where you're going with by saying 'mixed capitals', are you referring to 'Thoroughbred', which is always capitalized? So please give me some clearer recommendations about how you feel this article could be clearer or read better. ɱ (talk · vbm · coi) 17:16, 27 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Closing note - Unfortunately this has failed to attract much interest or commentary after being open for over a month. As such, I will be archiving it. --Laser brain (talk) 22:22, 29 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- Closing note: This candidate has been archived, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see WP:FAC/ar, and leave the {{featured article candidates}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through. --Laser brain (talk) 22:22, 29 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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