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The article was not promoted by User:GrahamColm 11:30, 30 November 2013 [1].

Good Girl Gone Bad[edit]

Nominator(s): — Tomíca(T2ME) &  Statυs (talk, contribs)

I am nominating this for featured article because... We have worked on it very hard to bring Good Girl Gone Bad to good article status. Now with the help of Mark Arsten (talk · contribs) who copy-edited it, I think that it is nearly ready to become a FA. We would like all the nominators who oppose, to bring their issues here so we can resolve it. Thank you! — Tomíca(T2ME) 20:16, 29 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Vic Rattlehead[edit]

OK, I'll have the honour of opening this discussion. So far I've only gone through the introduction part and it seems well-organised. A suggestion of mine would be to include the actual position the song "Umbrella" received on the Rolling Stone list. Another note might be to de-link "studio album", "1980s music" and "reissued" because they are common words. I will come back with more notes.--Вик Ретлхед (talk) 23:10, 12 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

@Вик Ретлхед: Done. — Tomíca(T2ME) 14:53, 21 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from SnapSnap[edit]

  • I second Vic Rattlehead's comment on delinking common words.
  • "She cited the 2004 studio album Afrodisiac" — I'd personally remove the word "studio"
  • [[Drum (musical instrument)|drum]]s → [[drum kit|drums]]
  • "Nick Levine of Digital Spy compared it to 'Sexy Love' and 'Because of You'" → It should probably be noted that "Hate That I Love You" is a collaboration with Ne-Yo, and the latter two songs are by him as well
  • "...the 1990s song by Mad Cobra, 'Flex'" → "...the 1990s song 'Flex' by Mad Cobra"
  • "an old styled" → "an old-styled"
  • "a rife driven by an acoustic guitar" — "Rife" is an adjective
  • "fifth-best selling" → "fifth best-selling"
  • Delink "Czech Republic" per WP:OVERLINK
  • "'Don't Stop the Music' was digitally released as an EP via the iTunes Store on September 7" → Of what year? 2007 is only mentioned at the beginning of the section
  • Allmusic → AllMusic
  • Hot Press review is rated in numbers (5/10), not stars
  • In citation No. 44, The Village Voice should be italicized
  • UK Album R&B Chart → UK R&B Albums Chart
  • "91 weeeks" → "91 weeks"
  • "...had sold more than 7 million copies worldwide" → "...had sold more than seven million copies worldwide"
  • Remove all mentions of Rovi Corporation as it no longer owns AllMusic

SnapSnap 20:42, 14 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Journalist[edit]

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  • The prose could use some work. Here are a few examples:
  • "While preparing the album, Rihanna worked with many producers..." Awkward expression. Instead of "preparing" the album, how about just saying that she recorded it?
  • "It earned Rihanna seven Grammy Award nominations and won the Best Rap/Sung Collaboration accolade for "Umbrella" at the 2008 ceremony." "It" refers to the album. So therefore, the album won the Best Rap/Sung Collaboration accolade for "Umbrella". A bit awkward.
  • Changed to "The album was the recipient of seven Grammy Award nominations and one win in the Best Rap/Sung Collaboration category for "Umbrella" at the 2008 ceremony." — Status (talk · contribs) 13:55, 27 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • The first paragraph of "Development and title" needs a much better flow and you need to be clearer about the purpose of the information there. Start with a topic sentence and then go from there.
  • I'd like to expand on this point just to give you a better understanding of what I'm talking about. As is, the section reads: "Rihanna released x. x was released in 2001. x sold 100 copies." Try to make the prose compelling and engaging to the reader, vary the construction, consider syntax etc. But the bigger problem is that I don't know why the information about A Girl Like Me is there. I'm not asking for it to be removed. But you have to tie in the information about that album to this article. Example:
"Less than a year after the release of her second studio album A Girl Like Me, Rihanna was once again in the studio with her collaborators composing tracks for a third album. A Girl Like Me had been a moderate success for the singer, yielding two number-one singles and awarded platinum status in both the U.S and the U.K. A pop-oriented album with R&B and dancehall influences, critics had been divided over its balladry, formulaic sound, and lack of consistency. For this third album, Rihanna intended to explore new musical territories and to pursue a more aggressive, predominantly upbeat sound. In an interview for MTV news... blah, blah, blah" It may be a bad example, but do you see how information about the old album was tied into this article, for a specific purpose? Let me know if I'm any clearer. Orane (talk) 03:47, 28 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Recording and Production— "They wrote and sang "Hate That I Love You"..." So, Rihanna also co-wrote the song? (that's what the sentence implies) It's a collaboration/duet? (the sentence doesn't make that explicitly clear).
  • "They wrote the track "Umbrella" with pop singer Britney Spears in mind. Her label rejected the song before she could hear it, stating they had enough songs for her to record.[14]" What album was she recording at the time?
  • "Timbaland, who wanted to write a song called "Rehab" for Rihanna"? Awkward as written. Are you suggesting that he had conceptualized the title before even setting about writing the song? If that's the case, say so.
  • You gave a list of studios in the section, but never state which song was recorded where. Who did the mixing or the recording, or sang background? Might discogs help with this?
  • Composition
  • Dorian Lynskey of The Guardian compared the singer's vocals to the voices of Ciara and Cassie." In what way? What similarities/differences were highlighted?
  • ""Don't Stop the Music" is a dance-pop and techno song[25][26] that contains rhythmic devices used mainly in hip hop music." Are you suggesting that the reader already knows what these "ryhthmic devices" are?
  • "The seventh track on the album, "Say It", samples the 1990s song "Flex" by Mad Cobra; it consists of silky and warm groove and features island-oriented music characteristics." Ditto above point. What characteristics? A steelpan?
  • Sell Me Candy" features jumbled and noisy production with chaotic beats. What instruments? What does it sound like? As a matter of fact, what are any of these songs about? Their lyrics or topics are never addressed?

I'll stop there, but there are a lot of similar issues in the body of the article. Orane (talk) 04:26, 27 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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