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The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was promoted by Gog the Mild via FACBot (talk) 29 September 2021 [1].


Nominator(s): RunningTiger123 (talk) 23:42, 29 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This article is about an episode of the television series The Good Place and is probably most notable for D'Arcy Carden's multiple roles, though it also contains several major plot reveals. I got this to GA status last year but have made major additions since then to fully cover production, analysis, and critical reviews, and I now hope to make this my first FA. Special thanks to Heartfox for advice during the GA nomination and to Wetrorave and Aoba47 for their help at the peer review. RunningTiger123 (talk) 23:42, 29 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Images are appropriately licensed. Nikkimaria (talk) 16:43, 31 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Support from Aoba4

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Comments from Heartfox

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  • I will do a source review within the next two days which I believe will pass easily. One immediate comment is that I would not consider TV Series Finale a high-quality source because it does not have access to Nielsen ratings, it just copies from other sources. However, its ratings tables like the one cited in this article have also been cited in multiple books published by academic and university presses and I can't think of an alternative of higher quality for the info cited. Heartfox (talk) 00:10, 20 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Per MOS:CONFORMTITLE bullet four, stuff like 'The Good Place' should be italicized in citation titles regardless if the publication has it in quote marks (e.g., refs 8, 22).
    • Done.
  • I looked for Live+7 DVR in Variety and TV by the Numbers, but couldn't find any for the week the episode aired, so Programming Insider is fine.
  • What is the reliability of sfadb.com? Can two more established sources for the 2018 and 2020 Hugo Awards be cited instead?
    • sfadb.com is run by the same organization that publishes Locus, which from my experience is a reputable source. I used that instead of finding sources for each year to avoid cluttering the sentence with excessive citations. (And if the show wins for its 2021 nomination, it would be really easy to update the citation as opposed to finding another source to add there.)
  • ref 22 missing author
    • Done.
  • ref 23 episode title "The Book of Dougs" not given in source
    • Removed episode title.

More to come... sorry for the delay. Heartfox (talk) 21:23, 25 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No worries about the delay. Replies above. RunningTiger123 (talk) 22:06, 25 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
My apologies; due to my schedule I can no longer complete a source review. I have changed the heading to "comments from Heartfox". Good luck with the nomination. Heartfox (talk) 00:12, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Coordinator note

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25 days in and only the single general support. Unless there is further interest over the next three to four days I am afraid this nomination is liable to be archived. Gog the Mild (talk) 14:04, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Support from Cas Liber

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Taking a look now.....

Support from TRM

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Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 18:12, 2 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
*"on December 6, 2018 as" comma after 2018.

That's all I have, it's in good shape. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 08:59, 27 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@The Rambling Man: Thanks for your thorough feedback; I've replied to everything above. RunningTiger123 (talk) 16:56, 27 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Courtesy ping for Heartfox and The Rambling Man – please let me know if you have any questions and comments about my changes. RunningTiger123 (talk) 02:19, 2 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Heartfox and The Rambling Man, anything more? Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 01:10, 18 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
TRM ? Gog the Mild (talk) 19:43, 26 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, satisfied enough to support this, sorry, I didn't have it on my watchlist. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 19:49, 26 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Source review

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Spotchecks not done. Version reviewed

Spotchecks

  • Some of the wording cited to FN4 seems a touch close to the source - suggest either quoting or rewording
    • Is there a particular place you noticed this? There are half a dozen places where source 4 is cited, and I didn't see any clear connections in the article when I skimmed it.
      • The one in particular that caught my eye was "the idea was to be limited to just the first act, but the writing staff realized they needed to use the concept as more than a gimmick". It's certainly not close enough to be a copyright concern, but IMO would warrant use of direct quotes. Nikkimaria (talk) 21:38, 25 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • I don't see that FN9 specifies the poles were metal?
    • Fixed.
  • "This placed the show fourth in its time slot, behind Thursday Night Football, Young Sheldon, and A Charlie Brown Christmas" - don't see this in cited source? Nikkimaria (talk) 22:46, 22 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    • It's not directly stated, but it's clear from the listed ratings. The two other shows listed at 8:30 had better ratings, and while A Charlie Brown Christmas aired at 8:00, the fact that there is no show listed on ABC at 8:30 indicates that the show continued into that time slot.
@Nikkimaria: Comments above. RunningTiger123 (talk) 03:07, 23 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Nikkimaria, does this look acceptable? Gog the Mild (talk) 19:50, 27 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. Nikkimaria (talk) 01:22, 28 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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