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The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was promoted by Ian Rose 10:03, 20 April 2013 (UTC) [1].[reply]

Japanese battleship Fusō[edit]

Japanese battleship Fusō (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

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Nominator(s): Dank, Sturmvogel 66

Yes, another article covering Fusō. In the Construction and service section, this one focuses on what happened to the ship; the article on the two-ship class is also currently was recently at FAC, and hopefully that will make reviewing easier for the reviewers who have already been through the material, at FAC and elsewhere. Let us know if you'd like more or less detail, please. We essentially rewrote the previous article and recently got it promoted as a Good Article. - Dank (push to talk) 01:58, 20 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This is a WikiCup nomination.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 03:46, 19 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note: This is a WikiCup nomination. The following nominators are WikiCup participants: Dank. To the nominator: if you do not intend to submit this article at the WikiCup, feel free to remove this notice. UcuchaBot (talk) 00:01, 20 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Source review - spotchecks not done

  • Chesneau title should use endash
  • Parshall should specify DC. Nikkimaria (talk) 00:09, 22 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Done, sorry you had to point out "DC" twice. - Dank (push to talk) 00:38, 22 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment.
  • Can you explain what makes Hackett ref reliable? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:14, 24 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    • Hi Piotr. The page was vetted by Parshall and Tully, considered by many to be the two pre-eminent historians on the Japanese navy during this period. We draw heavily on their books. - Dank (push to talk) 12:56, 24 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Support --John (talk) 12:24, 28 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks John. - Dank (push to talk) 00:57, 30 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
John, I'm used to more commentary from you -- does this represent a comprehensive review and support across all the FAC criteria? Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 08:34, 1 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It's a short but seemingly complete article. The sourcing looks good (though I haven't done any spot-checks) and as always I've focused on prose, which looks fine. Hope that makes more sense. --John (talk) 14:05, 2 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
That's fine, just wanted to confirm. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 09:29, 3 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from Ceranthor
Lead
  • Fusō was modernized in two stages, in 1930–35 and in 1937–41, - I think the first "in" should be changed to during to prevent repetition of in.
    • How about this? "Fusō was modernized in 1930–35 and again in 1937–41" - Dank (push to talk)
Propulsion
  • During her trials, Fusō reached a top speed of 24.7 knots (45.7 km/h; 28.4 mph) from 76,889 shp (57,336 kW).[1] - Because of the placement of this sentence, it is unclear which trials you are referring to.
Armanent
  • −5/+30 degrees - Is this a military custom, or do you mean to suggest the range is between -5 and 30, in which case an endash should be used here?
    • Changed to "'−5 to +30 degrees" - Dank (push to talk) 00:40, 14 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
World War II
  • Fusō, captained by Obata Chozaemon, and the rest of the 2nd Battleship Division set sail on 28 May 1942 with the Aleutian Support Group at the same time that most of the Imperial Fleet began an attack on Midway Island (Operation MI).[33][34 - Just a niggling concern. Captained by Obata Chozaemon slightly interrupts the flow of the sentence, and I think it might read better in parentheses. However this is just my personal preference, and by no means is it a deal breaker. :)
  • and provided cover for the abortive attempts to reinforce Biak Island at the end of the month. - It cannot really provide cover for the attempts, just the fleeing ships, right?
    • Changed to "for the convoy that failed to ..."
Surigao Strait
  • One or two torpedoes, possibly fired by the destroyer Melvin, hit Fusō amidships - Might be nice to put in a footnote clarifying what "amidships" actually means.
  • Fusō sank between 03:38 and 03:50 - UTC or local time?
    • I don't see why we would switch to UTC this late in the article. Historical narrative on Wikipedia generally gives local time. - Dank (push to talk)
References
  • Jentschura, Hansgeorg; Jung, Dieter; Mickel, Peter (1977). Warships of the Imperial Japanese Navy, 1869–1945. Annapolis, Maryland: United States Naval Institute. ISBN ISBN 0-87021-893-X Check |isbn= value (help). - The isbn value is screwed up for this source.
    • Fixed (from Amazon). - Dank (push to talk)
      • Actually, that's a perfectly valid ISBN and comes up properly on Worldcat when you click on it.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 01:20, 14 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Support - Seems there in my opinion, in terms of references and prose. Awesome work. ceranthor 18:08, 13 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    • Thanks much! I've made the same fixes (when applicable) to the sister ship Yamashiro, which is headed to FAC soon. - Dank (push to talk) 00:53, 14 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
All my comments have been (summarily) addressed. ceranthor 02:27, 14 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Image review: all images are freely licensed or in the public domain. There is a map published by the US government (PD), a drawing published under GNU/CC-by-SA 3.0, and three images of the ship are in the public domain under the old Japanese copyright system (all images taken before 1946 and/or published before 1956 = PD) and in the US (based on Wikipedia_talk:Non-U.S._copyrights#Japan; additionally the images would not have received more copyright protection under the URAA, and it's very unlikely that the individual photos' copyright would have been registered and renewed in the US Copyright Office). The latter do need US public domain tags to satisfy Commons' dual-licensing requirement, though. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 17:37, 15 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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