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John Wesley[edit]

I disagree with the praise for the first half of this article. It reads like it was written by someone out to debunk the importance of Wesley and undermine his influence. It is SERIOUSLY unbalanced with no mention of the Oxford years and over emphasis on the lawsuit in Georgia and the influence of the Moravians. What Wesley accomplished in Savannah is not mentioned, the link to later Methodism is ignored, and the Moravian section completely downplays the importance of the Altersgate experience on Wesley. It is not hagiography to insist that a proper proportion be shown. All that lawsuit detail goes in a book length study, not a relatively brief entry. The same applies to the Moriavian influence. I also think technical terms should be briefly explained, not just linked to another entry. Wis2fan (talk) 15:11, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nicely detailed capsule biography, well organized, lucid narrative and useful links. In its depth and engaging style, this article exemplifies Wikipedia's advantages over other online references. The article has been criticized on the talk page as being NPOV and a "hagiography". I disagree. Although there is little or no negative content in the article, I don't believe that lack of same means the article is innaccurate or misleading. In fact, I believe that in both its form and content, John Wesley represents the best of Wikipedia. — J M Rice 18:16, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)

  • Object 1) The lead section is too short and doesn't adequately summarize the article's content. 2) cite your sources. slambo 20:19, Jun 18, 2005 (UTC)
  • Neutral at this point: I have listed a number of areas for potential expansion on the talk page. Wesley should be seen in less of a vaccuum, I think, and I don't think it would be extranneous to discuss what the Methodist Church under his direction did, nor the sorts of adherents that he attracted (blue stockings at first, then field believers, and the uneasy coalition between the upper class and "rocking" folks). Geogre 14:14, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    Object: Does not appear to be an active article. Perhaps some time on peer-review would help. Geogre 14:48, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Object I'd like to see more from Heitzenrater's books, e.g. The Elusive Mr. Wesley: John Wesley his own Biographer. I just checked, and the book IS still in print. Also in full agreement with slambo's objections, above. (sorry, forgot to sign my comment!) --JohnDBuell | Talk 20:52, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)