Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Kiss & Cry (song)/archive1
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- The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.
The article was archived by Ian Rose via FACBot (talk) 14:03, 6 August 2016 [1].
- Nominator(s): CaliforniaDreamsFan (talk · contribs} 04:01, 27 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
This article is about a song recorded by Japanese–American singer-songwriter Hikaru Utada. This is one of Utada's well known tracks post-Deep River, and I believe the article is well written and well researched. I would like to ask Wikipedia editors and reviewers to give reason of their decisions/opinions so I can improve this article, if it does not get promoted. If there are any inquiries, please ping or post to my page. Thanks, CaliforniaDreamsFan (talk · contribs} 04:01, 27 June 2016 (UTC).[reply]
- Update; I had forgotten to link this to the Featured article nomination page. My apologies for this inconvenience. CaliforniaDreamsFan (talk · contribs} 06:44, 13 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- Information about the management and recording locations should be included in the “Credits and personnel” section. The recording location may be in the infobox, but it also needs to be in this section as well.
- Done
- If “Kiss & Cry” was released alongside “Beautiful World,” wouldn’t it be more appropriate to say it was released as a double A-side single?
- Done
- Put that “Beautiful World” was an A-side in the infobox.
- Done
- Include a reference for the final sentence of the first paragraph in the “Background and release” paragraph.
- Done
- Eliminate the “finally” in the second sentence of the second paragraph of the same section. It serves no purpose, as the practice of upgrading a promotional single release to a proper single release is common and ten days between the release on radio and its single release is not that long.
- Done
- Change “Both single” to “Both singles”.
- Done
- Do you have any information on the song’s harmonic structure? The key, the beats per minute, the vocal range, the chord progression? This article needs this information before it can be passed to the FA level.
- Added information about the harmonic structure (chord progression), but nothing about beats per minute.
- The long quote from Utada in the “Composition” section is good, but it doesn't really support the entire quote does not really support the previous sentence about the composition of the song being done before the lyrics. Why does she say the song sounds better on the album than as a single? Her opinion on the song's energy would work better with the previous paragraph on the instrumental/sound of the song, in my opinion.
- Removed the part about "sounding better on the album than a single"; slightly tedious add on my behalf. Changed it up and moved.
- You use several quotes from Utada in this paragraph. I would recommend paraphrasing some of these.
- Done
- More detailed information about how Utada sings this song would improve this section like how does she sing on the chorus or in the verses or on the bridge. Do any critics or does anyone involved with the track talk about the lyrics on the verses, chorus, or bridge? This kind of information is very important to add before the article can be promoted to the FA level.
- I've added as much information and edited some info to the best of my abilitie (and sources); will do a little bit more.
- Eliminate “most” in front of “music critics”. You only include positive reviews so this qualification is not necessary.
- Done
- I was told to not use the reviews from Amazon.com, so I would recommend removing this one. A promotional review cannot be a reliable source.
- I understand your point about the reliability, but the review is handled by a staff member (not one of those unanimous or complementary reviews). I will leave it just for now until a further consensus is settled.
- Were there any more critical reviews on the single? I would imagine there would be a lot more since Utada is a pretty major artist in Japan and this was a major release.
- Added a couple more reviews, and merged accolades section together; makes more sense without adding too many sub-sections.
- Change “A reviewer from Halcyin Realms was negative towards…" to a "A review from Halcyin Realms criticized…” to avoid the repetition of negative in this sentence and the previous one.
- Done
- Is there any information about why the music video was done in the style of Nissin’s Freedom OVA and commercials? Was it some sort of sponsorship? Has Utada ever talked about in an interview or anything?
- Done; Added information.
- The information about the song being used to for the Nissin Noodle Cup seems more appropriate for the “Background and release” section, and the part about the second chorus would work better in the “Composition” section.
- Done
- I am assuming you mean “Noodle” and not “Noddle” and change “Noddle Cup” to “Cup Noodles” with a wikilink.
- Done
- I would recommend removing “Beautiful World” from the “See also” section as it is not necessary. It was already clearly stated throughout the article that "Beautiful World" is an A-side along with the appropriate wikilink.
- Done
- Reference 2 is dead and needs to either be archived or replaced with a link leading directly to the article.
- Done
- @Aoba47: Done the best I can to improve the article for FA; please notify me by any means if there needs to be any further improvement.
- @CaliforniaDreamsFan: Great job with the improvements to the article. While I understand your decision to wait until a further consensus is reached about the Amazon review, I still highly recommend removing it as I have been previously flagged by a user for this during a GA review for an album. The user was very explicit that Amazon reviews should not be used for the review, but I respect your decision to wait and see what other people say about this.
- I personally do not have a major problem with the source. I believe you had done as comprehensive work on this as you can so I'm now willing support to this FAC. Good luck with getting this promoted! Aoba47 (talk) 04:11, 15 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Closing comment -- Sorry but this review seems to have stalled so I'll be archiving it shortly. It may be worth putting it through Peer Review, requesting input from relevant projects and any editors you can think of, before looking at any re-nomination here, at which point you can leave neutrally worded notices with any who have commented along the way that the article is back at FAC. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 14:00, 6 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- Closing note: This candidate has been archived, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see WP:FAC/ar, and leave the {{featured article candidates}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through. Ian Rose (talk) 14:03, 6 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this page.