Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Me at the zoo/archive1

The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was archived by Ian Rose via FACBot (talk) 10 September 2024 [1].

Me at the zoo

Nominator(s): TWOrantula^TM (enter the web) 22:41, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This article is about the very first video on YouTube. You could say it was the start of one and many, many other Internet stories. After I reviewed it for GA, I was convinced this article could be a featured article, considering that this video's, and therefore YouTube's, 20th anniversary is about to come. After two peer reviews, I'm certain this article is prepared to be a featured article. TWOrantula^TM (enter the web) 22:41, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Vacant0

Will leave a review here. Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 08:27, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've checked sources for verifiability and did not notice any major grammar issues. I would, however, suggest cutting down the number of quotes.

Mention the video's reception and legacy briefly in the lede.
- Done.
Ref 1 only mentions that Chen studied at the UIUC.
- Changed (although Karim's page states that he went to UIUC too).
"Karim stated that inspiration for the platform came from the Super Bowl XXXVIII halftime show controversy and the 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake and tsunami" is mentioned in all three cited references. I suggest removing one of the Business Insider sources because texts in both Business Insider sources are the same.
- Whoops! Removed the 2024 edition.
"The video was recorded by his high school friend, Yakov Lapitsky" is cited by two Time sources. I suggest removing one of them.
- Decided to move the 2015 Time story to the sentence mentioning the exact time the video was released.
The rest of the Background section is verifiable.
- Nice.
The Reception and Legacy sections are both verifiable.
- Niiiiice.

Support ~~then~~ once the number of quotes get cut down. Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 19:29, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. Sorry, but this isn’t ready for FAC. Structurally it is a bit of a mess. As this article is about a video that was posted, I wouldn’t expect to see the posting information in the background section, but in a release section. The Reception section is indistinguishable from the Legacy one, and both of them are quote farms. Karim’s status is a bit unclear: he is shown as a founder and then shown criticising YouTube’s actions, while readers are still thinking he’s connected.

Some of the grammar is also a little clunky. “The 19-second video, recorded by his high school friend, Yakov Lapitsky, features Jawed Karim” hides Karim’s name too far down the sentence when it should be up front. Another example is “After Hurley registered the website's domain on February 14, 2005,[5] "Me at the zoo" was uploaded on April 23, 2005,[6][7] at 8:27 PM”: it’s odd to have “after x”, and then an event three months later. - SchroCat (talk) 20:29, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I agree about the "reception" and "legacy" sections. Based on the titles alone, I would expect "reception" to cover what people thought of the video/its release at the time it actually happened, and "legacy" to cover retrospective views from potentially years later, but as far as I can see both sections cover the latter and there's nothing anywhere about what (if anything) people thought of it at the time..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:08, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I should definitely close this nomination early... I didn't see this coming.

TWOrantula^TM (enter the web) 14:48, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have to agree on the structure too, that should definitely be addressed. Also, the number of quotes. Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 15:03, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Closing note: This candidate has been withdrawn, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see WP:FAC/ar, and leave the {{featured article candidates}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through. Ian Rose (talk) 15:37, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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