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The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was promoted by Buidhe via FACBot (talk) 27 February 2022 [1].


Nominator(s): AryKun (talk) 16:18, 9 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This article is about a species of Papuan pigeon. There isn't all that much research on it, so a rather short article, but there is an interesting breeding display described. AryKun (talk) 16:18, 9 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by Wehwalt

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  • "Schrader Range, but may breed throughout the year across its range." Can the dual use of "range" be avoided?
    • I can't really think of another word to use instead.
  • "although some can sometimes have as many as 80 individuals." perhaps "though some groupings can have as many as 80 individuals"
    • Reworded.
  • "Gymnophaps" can the two discussions of this genus in the Taxonomy section be consolidated?
    • I don't get what you mean by two discussions?
The two times the genus name is mentioned.--Wehwalt (talk) 14:20, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • "The Papuan mountain pigeon is found on New Guinea, its surrounding islands, and the Bacan Islands in the Maluku Islands." Is there an extent to which this is duplicative of what has been said before? Also the end reads oddly.
    • It isn't really duplicating anything before it, earlier mentions of distribution were subspecies-specific. Removed "in the Maluku Islands" to help it read better.
  • "but a juvenile and a male with enlarged testicles have been collected in June elsewhere" This reads slightly oddly. Is this one bird or two? If two, possibly the word "adult" should be tossed in there. And do juvenile birds breed?
    • I've added "adult male", to help clarify that it was two birds. Juveniles don't breed themselves, but do indicate that there was recent breeding activity.
That's it.--Wehwalt (talk) 16:35, 9 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support---Wehwalt (talk) 14:20, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Image review

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Images are appropriately licensed. Nikkimaria (talk) 02:16, 10 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Nikkimaria, there's been an image added since you did your review, could you check? AryKun (talk) 17:25, 10 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Looks fine. Nikkimaria (talk) 03:23, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Mike Christie

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Support. I've read through twice and can find nothing substantive to criticize. One minor point is that you don't give a publisher location for Gibbs, Barnes & Cox, but you do for the other two books you cite; it's best to be consistent. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 02:59, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Added location to the Gibbs ref. AryKun (talk) 03:59, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comments Support from Kavyansh

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Changed.
  • "G. a. albertisii Salvadori, 1874: The" v. "G. a. exsul (Hartert, 1903): It is" — why is '(Hartert, 1903)' in parenthesis, but 'Salvadori, 1874' not?
Parentheses are used to indicate that a species was described a genus different from the one it is currently classified in (eg exsul was originally described as Columba albertisii exsul) Added footnote to make this clearer.
  • "to pinkish red" — "to pinkish-red"
Done.
  • In the external link section, I'd suggest making this change.
Done.

That is it! – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 06:06, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Good work! A citation for the note added might be better, but that is a minor point. Rest, supporting! – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 12:31, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Source review - spotchecks not done. Version reviewed

  • "is a species of bird in the pigeon family Columbidae." - source?
This probably falls under WP:SKYISBLUE, also the fact that it's in Gymnophaps is cited, and Gymnophaps is in Columbidae.
The fact that Gymnophaps is in Columbidae is not cited either here or in the Gymnophaps article, and is not common knowledge for non-experts. Nikkimaria (talk) 13:35, 26 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Added bit in the taxonomy section, although I still feel this is excessive. AryKun (talk) 14:16, 26 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • "The Papuan mountain pigeon was first described as Gymnophaps albertisii by the Italian zoologist Tommaso Salvadori in 1874 on the basis of specimens from Andai, New Guinea." Primary can confirm that he described the bird, but not that he was first
Removed first.
Removed url and archives for the two books.
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