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- The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.
The article was not promoted 00:11, 12 May 2007.
Prison Break[edit]
I nominated this article for FA status, as it seems to fit the WP:WIAFA and is well written. The article also has a ton of references and a well written plot about the show. -- JA10 T · C 21:33, 24 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Support per nominator JA10. Cliff smith 00:11, 25 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment The article is really good; however, I have two comments. (1) The Tattoo section seems kind of out of place and (2) I really wish that this table was complete.--88wolfmaster 00:58, 25 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Solution? What if you moved the section to Michael's Page, and add a see also to the bottom of the main page?--88wolfmaster 03:13, 28 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- The section is moved to Michael Scofield's article. -- Ladida 04:47, 28 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- I would prefer if the article had at least a free image of one of the actors, to be used in the main page if this article is promoted. And the cast for both seasons is basically the same, I am not sure we need two images when the first one appears to have all the characters of the second season but one. Oh, and Image:0,10114,5099034,00.jpg is both too big for a fair use image, and has an awful name. Try reuploading it in a much smaller resolution (the article is displaying a 240 pixel image, we don't need a 2000 pixel one here) and with a better name. -- ReyBrujo 03:35, 30 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Oppose. Still has issues, particularly with the prose:
- to only have two seasons. - should be "to have only".
- The serialized story structure of Prison Break is attributed to the format of storytelling adapted by the writers as each episode covers a part of the escape plan, a similar format used by Lost and 24. - I don't understand this sentence. The story structure is attributed to the format of storytelling?
- The first season of Prison Break was primarily filmed at Joliet Prison, which also contributed to the uniqueness of the show. - the "also" is redundant, the whole sentence could do with expanding slightly. I assume it's trying to say that filming primarily at a Prison is what made it unique, but it's unclear.
- Its success and recognition as a prison drama also revived interest in the genre. - "also" is again unnecessary.
- The origins of Prison Break began as a concept... - "The origins of" is a bit redundant with "began". Couldn't it just be "Prison Break began as a concept..."?
- that was suggested to Paul Scheuring - "that was" is redundant.
- who had wanted to produce an action-oriented series - did she change her mind later? Why is the "had" there?
- He later came up - "later" is redundant, it's not as if he could've come up with it before he was stumped.
- He later came up with the story of the wrongfully accused brother and the conspiracy subplot. - sentence references "the conspiracy subplot" as if a new reader would know what it is.
- He then began working on the plot outline and devising the characters. - "then" is another redundant time term.
- Do we have any dates for the original proposal, and the time he spent working on it? It's all a little vague.
- Fox felt somewhat nervous - "somewhat" is redundant.
- ...showed the concept to other channels with no luck. - "with no luck" sounds unencyclopaedic. What did the other channels think? What did they do?
- The second paragraph of "Conceptions" doesn't seem to fit in the section, nor does it follow from the one before. The natural progression (in my eyes) would be to go on to the production of the series. When was it filmed? Who was brought in? What happened in the casting process?
- That's only looking at the first section, so there probably needs to be work throughout. Glancing at the references, many of the dates and access dates are not wikilinked, and sources are missing author or publisher information. Trebor 13:28, 3 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Object as per Trebor, there are problems in the writing.
- "The serialized story structure of Prison Break is attributed to the format of storytelling adapted by the writers as each episode covers a part of the escape plan, a similar format used by Lost and 24." There just has to be a comma before "as". (I'm unsure whether this point is clear and accurate, anyway. Is it referring to the first series alone?)
- Also-itis, a common WPian disease: "Its success and recognition as a prison drama also revived interest in the genre." Replace with "has".
- "In order to", my pet hate. Why, tell me, use three words when one ("to") will do?
- "In 2003, he pitched the idea to the Fox Broadcasting Company, but was turned down as Fox felt somewhat nervous about the long-term possibilities of such a series." Better: "In 2003, the Fox Broadcasting Company turned down the idea, because it was unsure about the long-term possibilities of a series based on it."
- "The show was later considered as a possible 14-part miniseries"—no, it's still a concept at that stage. Don't use "TV show" here, anyway: "TV drama" is more formal.
Lots to fix up. It's worth saving. Find someone else with fresh eyes to spend a couple of hours on it. Tony 00:47, 6 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.