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The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was not promoted 04:22, 5 May 2007.

Ratchet & Clank: Up Your Arsenal

The article has been through a Peer Review and all problems have been sorted and I think it meets FA standards. Some of it may need a bit of a copyedit but it has been submitted to the Leauge of Copyeditors. Crimsonfox 18:20, 16 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Support per work I did with Crimsonfox on the peer review.--Clyde (talk) 20:23, 16 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I saw a couple of spots where British spellings were used (i.e. "materialised"). As the game was made in America by an American company, should not the spellings conform to U.S. English? -- Kicking222 22:46, 16 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I changed your example but without specific examples I won't be able to change any more. Any recommendations what I should do here? Crimsonfox 23:09, 16 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

According to MOS I think, you keep the article in the original spelling it was in. I think it's frowned upon to change the spelling simply because it is British English or American English.--Clyde (talk) 00:02, 17 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If I remember correctly, that applies to articles like Algebra or Cotton which have no association with any country. If an article does correspond to some country, the variation used should match. So if I remember this correctly, Italy should be written in British spelling since British spelling is used in the EU, and American English should be used in Jenna Jameson since she's from the States. ShadowHalo 00:40, 17 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I haven't read that part of MOS lately, I just hear quotes from random people who are arguing for one point or another and have said that. For future reference, is Japan American spelling?--Clyde (talk) 01:57, 17 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The section is at Wikipedia:Manual of Style#National varieties of English in case you want to take a look for yourself. (To correct myself, the Italy article should be written in British, Irish or Maltese English.) So far as I know, Japan is not closely associated to any English variety, so the original author's variety is the one to use. ShadowHalo 22:32, 17 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Various things:

Should "deathmatch" and the other modes be capitalized? Be consistent.
~~Text in parentheses (e.g. "Similar to himself") should not be capitalized.~~
Be consistent with the serial comma.
~~Change all instances of "Dr Nefarious" to "Dr. Nefarious".~~
~~The article sometimes uses "Ratchet and Clank: Up Your Arsenal" and other times uses "Ratchet & Clank: Up Your Arsenal". Be consistent.~~ --- RockMFR 21:02, 17 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose - As a gamer, I know that the Jak series and the Ratchet series are frequently compared. Yet the average reader will have no idea why Jak is mentioned entirely without context within the Development section (I added an bit of explaination--Munkel (talk) 00:10, 22 April 2007 (UTC)). As with most Reception sections in games, I would like to see more offline publications presented such as Edge and EGM. Listing scores in the prose is pretty damn boring anyway, but given that we have a review boxout, it's also redundant. The reception prose needs more flow and thought. In such sections, I want to know what publications thought of the gameplay, graphics and sound. For example, I seem to remember that the eponymous arsenal was one of the most well received parts of the game, surely that is a lot more interesting than IGN declaring it a "MUST buy". Incidentally, I have a Time Extend feature on the game from Edge (sort of like a look back at the game), and a review of the game in Games TM available. If you would like a copy of those, just email me, I'm not too sure how useful they'll be but make for interesting reading for fans nonetheless. - hahnch e n 23:38, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Too much original research. For example, in the characters and story sections you have comments like "He has a history with Captain Qwark as it is mentioned that they went to the same high school and was also bullied by Qwark." The reference for that, though, is this statement: "Qwark:How about a wedgie for old times sake! (Ratchet & Clank: Up Your Arsenal) Insomniac Games, 2004." In short, you've played the game, written down comments from it, then interpreted what those comments meant. There are a number of places in the article where you did this. Sorry, but that's original research and is not allowed. --Alabamaboy 00:25, 30 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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