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Sail Training

with the summer race series kicked off and going strong, thought it might be a good time to raise the awareness of why all these tall ships are still around and what they're doing when they're not at some dock being a simple tourist attraction with thousands of looky-loos asking if it's a real pirate ship. Seasee 02:59, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

• Object.
  1. The images Image:Navclass.jpg and Image:Furling.jpg are under a license of "Used with permission, no modification or third-party use allowed". This is an unacceptable license for Wikipedia.
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  --Carnildo 04:05, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

• Comment. I am not sure in what style this article is supposed to be in. At times it looks more like a guide/essay than an encyclopedia article. Is that the intention or am I missing something? Pentawing 06:08, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

• • Reply Image:Alanvilliers2.jpg is tagged fair use while use of Image:Navclass.jpg and Image:Furling.jpg have been discussed and used with permission of the respective copyright owners. Image tagged fair use and images that retain copyright have been used in recent featured articles Image:Rudranath Capildeo.jpg, Image:Beatles-singles-heyjude-uk.jpg, Image:Pvxlstudio.jpg. As for the article being more like a "guide/essay", i'm a little confused as i personally usually think of an encyclopedia as a type of guide filled with essays about many different subects and don't understand what exactly is being questioned. -Seasee 00:45, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
    • There are only two sections where the wording is questionable in my opinion: the introduction and Pros and cons of sail training. For instance, I have a problem with the following passages since they look opinionated (there are others as well):

Sail training is not intended to (be) a vacation. The sea has always been associated with some element of risk and if one were looking to stay warm and dry, they should be looking at cruise ships instead of sail training vessels.

From its modern interpretations to its antecedents when maritime nations would send young naval officer candidates to sea, sail training provides an unconventional and effective way of building many useful skills on and off the water. (Is the passage stating a fact or an opinion here? Try rewording this a bit).

The passage concerning cruise ships should also be reworded since it is obvious that sail training is a difficult endeavour. Once the wording problems are addressed, I will reconsider my vote. Pentawing 01:59, 25 July 2005 (UTC)