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The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was promoted by Laser brain via FACBot (talk) 18 March 2019 [1].


Nominator(s): Midnightblueowl (talk) 14:34, 22 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This article is about one of the Medway Megaliths, a series of Early Neolithic chambered tombs located in Kent, Southeast England that are part of the world's oldest tradition of stone construction. I brought an article on another of the Medway Megaliths, Coldrum Long Barrow, to FA status a while ago, and thought I'd try to get this article to join it. It is presently rated as a GA. This is not a particularly long article, and should be of interest to folks intrigued by archaeology and the distant past. Midnightblueowl (talk) 14:34, 22 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Preliminary thought Since the article has lots of unillustrated stretches, it would benefit from some photos of comparable structures that still exist. Otherwise, looks good. Johnbod (talk) 15:25, 22 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Image review

  • Suggest adding alt text

Jens Lallensack

Support by Ceoil

  • The writing is excellent; have made some trivial edits, but this is very sparing and clear indeed. Especially the 1st para of the "Design" sect, with all the measurements, could have been heavy going to a casual, non specific fact seeking reader, but to the nominator's credit, it all flows quite easily and holds interest.
  • Certainly comprehensive, esp. in terms of appropriate setting of the megalith in their specific local & British Isles historical context, while also giving a clear indication of the wider European historical setting.
  • Sourcing also first rank, noting that all of the authors I looked up were leaders in their field. Would wiki-link them however in the sources sect. to their wiki bios.
  • I dont see any issue with ref formatting. Ceoil (talk) 22:07, 8 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

FunkMonk

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  • I wonder why Kent and the country aren't mentioned under "location". If I didn't read the intro first, I wouldn't know any of this. Would best to have all the following information form the intro there: "near the village of Aylesford in the south-eastern English county of Kent."
  • Borders on images are discouraged, so I wonder if this[3] image could be cropped, and all images moved to Commons?
  • I think that the border improves the image in this instance, although I certainly won't object if anyone removes it from the picture (or creates a better quality image that my rather amateur attempt). Midnightblueowl (talk) 12:52, 13 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • "was placed to as to prevent" A bit awkward. Was placed as to? Was positioned to prevent?
  • "divide the chamber into two" In two?
  • " in breadth" Width might be more typical, or what does the source say?
  • "was the skull of a mole" Placed there by humans, or had it just died there?
  • Articles could also be linked from image captions. There are now many unlinked names and terms.
Links in the intro, article body, and captions are considered separately. FunkMonk (talk) 12:33, 13 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • "termed "Structure 4806" by its excavators" When?
  • "under-jaws" Lower jaws, mandibles? I have never seen the term "under-jaw" before.
  • I've double-checked the sources on this point as I'd never encountered this term before either. Apparently the original report did say "under-jaw". However, I think that it must be a reference to a mandible; I mean, what else could it be? I'll make the alteration in the text. Midnightblueowl (talk) 13:54, 17 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, it certainly refers to the mandible, but must be some kind of archaic term that is better replaced. FunkMonk (talk) 14:39, 17 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • "and two portions of the ulna" An ulna? Ambiguous now as to whether it was pieces of one or two ulnae.
  • I think that here is ambiguity as whether these are two pieces of a single ulna or two separate ulnae. I've switched the prose in the text from "ulna" to "unlae" anyway, as I think that the plural works better here. Midnightblueowl (talk) 13:56, 17 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • "A jaw bone containing" Upper or lower? Especially because you already mentioned jaws.
  • "Around 200 metres away" Needs conversion.
  • "Christian zealots" Zealot could be linked.
  • "cannot be publicly accessed" Why, who owns it now? We also seem to have a photo from there, taken by a user?
  • There is no public access onto the actual farmer's field where the monument once stood. Obviously, one can look at the field from the adjacent trackway (from where this photo was taken). Do you think that I should alter the prose in the article accordingly? Midnightblueowl (talk) 12:38, 13 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Probably not. FunkMonk (talk) 14:42, 16 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Maidstone is linked twice in the same sentence.
  • I always read the intro last, but from reading the article, it is never explicitly stated the monument was destroyed, which it should be. The article body only says "The workmen threw most of the human remains to the side", but not what happened to the stones.
Yeah, in that first part of the "Discovery and investigation" section. FunkMonk (talk) 14:42, 16 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Added. Midnightblueowl (talk) 13:48, 17 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • "In the 1920s, the archaeologist" - "included it in his 1924" If it was found in 1922, I'm not sure "in the 1920s" is justified, it could basically only have been within the following two years...
Ah *facepalm* FunkMonk (talk) 14:42, 16 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • What happened to the stones that were later found, mentioned at the end of the article?

Sources review

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  • No spotchecks carried out
  • A couple of minor presentation points:
  • Ref 57: pp. range requires ndash not hyphen
  • In the bibliography, Philp & Dutto are listed out of alphabetical sequence

Overall, the sources appear to be of the appropriate standards of quality and reliability, and are uniformly presented. Brianboulton (talk) 22:48, 12 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your time, Brian. Midnightblueowl (talk) 12:28, 13 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Cas Liber

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