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The article was promoted by Ian Rose via FACBot (talk) 14:12, 30 January 2016 [1].

South Park: The Stick of Truth[edit]

Nominator(s): Darkwarriorblake / SEXY ACTION TALK PAGE! 18:29, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This article is about the 2014 role playing video game developed by Obsidian Entertainment and based on the long running comedy television show South Park created by Trey Parker and Matt Stone. The article has been left for a while as I was waiting for any further developments/dlc and the like, but none of that has materialised and now I believe the article to be as complete as can be providing a thorough background to the well-received game that had a somewhat difficult creation cycle. Thanks for reading! Darkwarriorblake / SEXY ACTION TALK PAGE! 18:29, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Nergaal[edit]

  • Support I've read through the article and I couldn't really find flaws. In the end having "fiftieth" and similar stuff instead of just 50th seems a bit tedious. I am wondering if it is worth mentioning explicitly that the humor follows that of the show really well, including childish jokes like use of "PP" for mana. Nergaal (talk) 19:57, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Nergaal:, I added a note on the "peepee" thing, and a different user has added a quote from a review stating that it follows the same style of humour as the show. That plus the commentary on how it looks like an episode of the show I think might cover what you're asking. I also changed the fiftieth and similar to the numerical versions. Darkwarriorblake / SEXY ACTION TALK PAGE! 22:42, 18 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
seventh is probably better. Nergaal (talk) 22:47, 18 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Darkwarriorblake / SEXY ACTION TALK PAGE! 23:24, 18 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Image review from SNUGGUMS[edit]

I might come back later on for more, but felt this should be done first. Snuggums (talk / edits) 19:23, 28 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I like to add the year just so people are clear that the image is not to do with the promotion of the game. Darkwarriorblake / SEXY ACTION TALK PAGE! 17:16, 3 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from jfhutson[edit]

I'm not inclined to read this article, but I saw two comma errors in the lead:

  • "The Stick of Truth '​s production was turbulent, its release date was postponed several times from its initial date in March 2013 to its eventual release in March 2014." Comma splice
  • "There was also a change of publisher, following the bankruptcy of THQ, the original publisher." The first comma is not needed. --JFH (talk) 02:18, 31 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from David Fuchs[edit]

{{doing}} Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs(talk) 21:00, 8 January 2016 (UTC) Overall, very solid. Some comments follow:[reply]

  • Why are the series of slipped release dates mentioned twice (first in the last part of the Development section, and again in the release?)
  • References:
    • Looks like all the refs are archived, good for being proactive.
    • What makes Topless Robot a high-quality reliable source?
    • I've spot-checked statements attributed to current refs 5* (fast travel), 10, 18, 34, 40, 41, 42, 49*, 55, 74, 75, and 83.
      • Ref 5 states: "Well, you'll roam around just like a typical RPG (with fast travel in tow, compliments of Timmy), discover loot, find some quests for your quest log, and complete the main story along the way.", which does not adequately cite the entire statement in the article: "The game features a fast travel system, allowing the player to call on the character Timmy to quickly transport them to any other visited fast travel station". I would fix this and double-check the rest of the gameplay section for these sorts of source-stretching; it's difficult to fact-check each statement throughout this article because you are often citing long stretches to multiple sources.
      • Sources 74 and 75 conflict, with one saying there were six scenes censored and the other saying seven.

—Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs(talk) 21:19, 11 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  1. With the release dates, my thought process is that the Development section talks about the kind of the behind-the-scenes reasons and is more focused while the release section talks more about the public knowledge of release dates, and things like the delay only being known when Ubisoft omitted it from its release schedule. If I'm wrong though let me know and I can try to integrate it more into the development section.
  2. Topless Robot is owned by Village Voice Media so it does have oversight by a legitimate company that owns multiple news outlets.
  3. I've added an additional clearer source for the Timmy fast travel (bonus, it contains information about characters in the game I was struggling to find, so thanks for making me look)
  4. Did the same for the censorship conflict, more sources said seven were censored so I added an additional ref to back that up and moved the Guardian away from backing that particular claim up.
  5. Aside: I will go through the article and review multiple refs for single statements. Darkwarriorblake / SEXY ACTION TALK PAGE! 23:11, 11 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  1. Has there been any discussion about the reliability solely focused on Topless Robot? I'm hesitant to consider it high quality just because of its parent company. As for the release dates, I think it's fine to mention earlier in the development, but it's pointless to restate the exact dates; you can just say earlier that the release date slipped and leave the hard dates for later. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs(talk) 17:13, 12 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
No discussion that I know of. They do have a privacy policy dictated by the parent company but that's all I can see here. Darkwarriorblake / SEXY ACTION TALK PAGE! 18:46, 12 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I changed the Development release dates to ", pushing its release date back by six months to March 2014."Darkwarriorblake / SEXY ACTION TALK PAGE! 23:28, 12 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Can you just remove the questionable source? It seems like most of the content is cited to other better sources anyhow, so as long as it doesn't leave something orphaned source-wise it shouldn't suffer for lack of it. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs(talk) 15:24, 13 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Done.Darkwarriorblake / SEXY ACTION TALK PAGE! 23:01, 13 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
David Fuchs, just checking if you saw my response? Darkwarriorblake / SEXY ACTION TALK PAGE! 23:26, 23 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
No, thanks for pinging me. I'll take another look at the article tomorrow and see if there are any other outstanding issues. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs(talk) 01:38, 25 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Cas Liber[edit]

Taking a look now....

only one character can be active at any time - I'd be inclined to make this contrastive - ", though only one character can be active at any time" as it links better to previous like this (with comma rather than semicolon).

Looks good prose and comprehensiveness otherwise. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 10:29, 27 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Done Darkwarriorblake / SEXY ACTION TALK PAGE! 19:26, 27 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hence I think I support this on those grounds....Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 22:44, 27 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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