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The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was not promoted by User:SandyGeorgia 01:17, 30 September 2008 [1].

Tropical Storm Kiko (2007)[edit]

Nominator(s): Cyclonebiskit (talk)
previous FAC withdrawn


I'm nominating this article for featured article because I feel that I've covered everything possible with this storm. I've never had an FA before but I think this one meets the criteria for one. All thoughts on this article welcome. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 02:33, 16 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comments
  • Opening sentence is quite weak.
  • The southern portion of the wave split off and continued through the Atlantic, entering the Pacific Ocean on October 8. Showers and thunderstorms developed around the low around October 11 while located 240 nmi (440 km) south of Acapulco, Mexico. Wait a second...when did the low develop?
  • The intensification was very short lived and Kiko was downgraded to a tropical depression six hours later as the center became displaced from the diminishing convective activity. Remove "very", redundant and POV.
  • Why did the storm reach tropical storm status the second time?
  • As it moved away from the coast, an eye had begun to form. "Had begun" → "began"
  • On October 22, Kiko was downgraded to a tropical depression as strong wind shear left the low exposed. Slightly confusing. Was the center even covered with convection since you last said it was exposed?
  • Life threatening flash floods and mudslides were possible over the mountainous terrain. Not sure I see the relevence. Any kind of impact could have happened.
  • Mexican officials also closed the port of captaincy as a precaution.[1] Mexican officials advised residents in danger of flooding to avoid low-lying areas. "Mexican officials....Mexican officials"...zzz
  • As Kiko paralleled the coast for two days, rain fell constantly along the coastlines until Kiko pulled away from shore. Awkwardly worded, avoid using the same word or variations in the same sentence (sans coast, coastline).
  • Only 2 people survived; 15 bodies were recovered and 9 passengers were never found. Here, you use number characters. In the lead, you spell them out.
  • Last sentence of the article needs a reference.
  • In reference 1 spell out "TCR".
  • Remove the all-caps author in ref 12.
  • Add Category:Hurricanes in Mexico

–Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 12:36, 16 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I've done all of the above (at least I'm quite sure I have). Cyclonebiskit (talk) 18:24, 16 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Most of it's done, but we still don't know when the low developed. It goes from "the wave..." to "the low..." with nothing between. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 18:31, 16 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, I've explaned how the wave became a low. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 18:44, 16 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Looks good, but aside from needing another good copyedit, I'm not convinced the article is indeed comprehensive. Try looking for impact in Spanish sources. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 19:55, 16 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Most of the sources talk about Kiko approaching and that warnings have been issued. I think I found two that have some impact. Otherwise, I cannot seem to find info on impact. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 21:34, 16 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Never mind, I haven't found anything on impact (other than the ship capsizing), just a lot of repetitive preparation. Also, how should I go about copy-editing the article? Cyclonebiskit (talk) 21:49, 16 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You should bring in a new copyeditor. I know User:Finetooth often takes such requests. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 21:53, 16 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I've asked for a copyedit, don't know how long until Finetooth responds. What should I do about the lack of information on Kiko's impact? Cyclonebiskit (talk) 00:05, 17 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I guess User:Plasticup just did the copyedit (not sure if it was the kind you were looking for though). Other than that, what's left that I can do? (since there is basically no info on impact.) Cyclonebiskit (talk) 11:03, 17 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Nah, all he did was add nbsps. Just wait for more reviewers, I suppose. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 13:26, 17 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, well, Finetooth has done (or is still doing) the full copyedit. It takes more than one person to do a FA review? Didn't know that...Cyclonebiskit (talk) 17:17, 17 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, the FAC stays open for anywhere between one week and three weeks, and during any given FAC there may be numerous reviews. For now, I'm not convinced the article is ready just yet, so I'm going to wait a tad before declaring my !vote. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 18:36, 17 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, ok. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 18:45, 17 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments - sources look good, links checked out with the link checker tool. Ealdgyth - Talk 19:30, 17 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Question Do you mind clarifying A tropical wave exited the coast of Africa on September 26. The wave quickly developed, spawning Tropical Storm Melissa on September 28. At the same time, part of the wave separated from the developing tropical depression and continued through the Atlantic, entering the Pacific Ocean... as I don't really understand. Don't actual clarify in the article unless you feel its appropriate. Pie is good (Apple is the best) 23:13, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The tropical wave that formed into tropical storm melissa had two parts, sort of like in 2006 when a low broke off of Tropical Storm Florence and developed into Tropical Storm Gordon. The lower portion of the wave continued to move towards the west, since it was weak, and the developing northern part intensified into a tropical depression. Hope that helps a bit. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 15:19, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I guess I was being a bit unclear, I meant did it form on the west or east coast of Africa? Pretty sure its west coast but I'm not sure. Pie is good (Apple is the best) 00:12, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
West coast, south of the Cape Verde islands and west of Senegal. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 12:44, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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