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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

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Bobbie Rosenfeld Award[edit]

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Nominator(s): Resolute 20:07, 26 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This is a twin nomination to that of the Lionel Conacher Award. While the Conacher award names Canada's male athlete of the year, the Bobbie Rosenfeld names the female athlete. I have attempted to ensure the technical comments from that FLC are already addressed with this one. Hopefully there will be only a minimum of content concerns. Resolute 20:07, 26 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 16:25, 2 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • Lead image caption needs a full stop as it's a complete sentence.
  • " doing it in consecutive years between " (hate "do"), perhaps " winning the award in consecutive years between " or similar?
  • "Her perseverance and the inspirational performance in the face of her grief" - these probably need to be direct quotations.
  • "The new poll is separate " reads odd, since it was new in 1933..
  • Second World War or World War II, you decide, but be consistent.
  • "A tie existed in .." a bit passive, perhaps "A tie occurred.."?
  • "with identical totals of 208 points" -> "with an identical 208 points".
  • "one year later" and "one year after", perhaps consider switching one out for "the following year" or something with a bit of variety!
  • "Overall, winners have represented numerous sports." this sentence is pretty meaningless for me. It's like saying "people won it in more than one sport" which is pretty obvious.
  • Check all captions vis-a-vis my first comment here.
  • Our article about Barbara Ann has it hyphenated...
  • Both See also links are mentioned in the text so no need for them.

The Rambling Man (talk) 19:17, 30 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

All should be addressed, thanks. The Barbara Ann Scott article was moved last year on the basis of a single source that hyphenated her name. I moved it back as an overwhelming majority of sources uses no hyphen. Thanks, Resolute 17:15, 1 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Quick comments Support –

  • Voting: "Voters selected their first disabled athlete as winner in 2008". Feels like "the" would be helpful before "winner".
  • List of winners: Don't think Javelin needs to be capitalized in the 1937 note. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 02:47, 7 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Both fixed. Apologies for the slow response... I missed this on my watchlist when it popped up! Resolute 00:48, 13 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment

  • Not much wrong apart from two WP:ACCESS issues. Firstly the table needs a caption; for this it would be |+Bobbie Rosenfold Award winners. Finally you need to add ! before scope=row. Other than this the list looks good. NapHit (talk) 19:35, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • A header would be superfluous, as the section header explains the table. Also, I do not intend to highlight one column of the table, which replacing | with ! would do. Resolute 20:06, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Both of these items are required by WP:ACCESS, currently the list does not meet access requirements. A quick read of MOS:DTT states that the priority for these two items is high, there fore I feel they need to be implemented. Recent FL's employ these I see no reason why they should be flouted here. NapHit (talk) 23:03, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It is not a case of flouting accessibility, it is case of not wanting to introduce redundancy for no benefit. The point of a table caption is to define what the table is about. The section header achieves the same function, and given there is absolutely no text between the section and the table, there is no ambiguity. I will add it if I have to, but I do not logically see how not having a header that says the same thing as the section title hampers accessibility. As to the other point, the important syntax is scope=row. The ! is wikimarkup used to make the cell a table header, but that is not an accessibility issue. I have no desire to use row headers, especially in the middle of the table. In fact, W3's own documentation appears to support this: "TH is for headers, TD for data, but for cells acting as both use TD". Resolute 03:18, 5 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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