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Capital Bra discography[edit]

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Nominator(s): Lirim | T 23:41, 23 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this discography that I completely revised, expanded, and neatened up. I hope it meats the FL requirements. Lirim | T 23:41, 23 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from ChrisTheDude[edit]

Resolved comments from ChrisTheDude | talk
"Capital Bra was awarded for sales of 400,000 records in Germany" - are there some words missing here? What was he awarded?
"of which only "Es geht ums Geschäft" could enter the charts an number seventy-six in Germany" => "of which only "Es geht ums Geschäft" entered the charts at number seventy-six in Germany"
Related to that, it is standard to write chart positions as numbers, not words
In the first sentence of paragraph 3, refs need to go after punctuation, not before
"The album debuted on number three" => "The album debuted at number three"
"all of which debuted at number one of German single charts" => "all of which debuted at number one on the German single chart"
No need for the Austria column in the "other charted songs" table if no songs charted there
Note 1: "Capital Bra started his career under the pseudonym "Capital". His first studio album and a couple of single have been released under the name Capital" - singles should be plural, also is it possible to be more specific than "a couple"?
Notes 2 and 3 - CD should be in capitals
Hope this helps -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:50, 27 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@ChrisTheDude: – I hope I corrected all your concerns. --Lirim | T 08:24, 27 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
You still need to fix "of which only "Es geht ums Geschäft" could enter the charts an number 76"...... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:27, 27 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@ChrisTheDude: – Fixed :) --Lirim | T 08:32, 27 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I made a few minor tweaks and am now happy to support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:35, 27 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@ChrisTheDude:: – Thank you --Lirim | T 08:39, 27 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Cartoon network freak[edit]

Resolved comments from Cartoon network freak (talk)
  • As you may have seen, I have done some edits on the tables on my own in accordance with the style of my discography Inna discography, which became a FL some time ago. Check them out and feel free to revert anything you feel like I've done wrong.
  • Capital Bra was awarded with two gold certifications for sales of 400,000 records in Germany. → Please remove this alltogether, because you're mentioning it throughout the rest of the lead
  • Please combine the lead paragraph with the second one
  • In 2016, Capital Bra released his first studio album → To avoid word repetition: "In 2016, he premiered his first studio album"
  • on the German GfK Entertainment Charts and number 61 on the Austrian Album charts → Remove the links and reword to: "...on the German and at number 61 on the Austrian album charts."
  • which debuted at number 1 in Austria, 2 in Germany and 5 in Switzerland. It spawned four singles, of which only "Es geht ums Geschäft" entered the charts, at number 76 in Germany → which peaked within the top five in Austria, Germany and Switzerland, spawning four singles of which "Es geht ums Geschäft" entered the charts at number 76 in Germany.
  • In May of the same year, he released his second EP Ibrakadabra, which peaked at number 77 on the Swiss Album charts → In the May of the same year, he distributed his second EP Ibrakadabra to minor commercial success in Switzerland. (avoiding word repetition by listing chart positions for every release)
  • which was released in September of the same year → which was released three months later
  • The album spawned six singles → change "The album" to "The record" to avoid the repetition of "album"
  • including the gold-certified singles "Nur noch Gucci" and "Olé olé" → including "Nur noch Gucci" and "Olé olé" which were certified gold in Germany
  • I copy-edited the lead's last three lines by myself
  • Remove streaming audio as the format for all his albums; I haven't seen this format listed on any discography and don't think it is particularly relevant
  • "AUF!KEINEN!FALL!" needs to be reworded to "Auf!Keinen!Fall!" due to WP:SHOUTING
  • @Lirim.Z: This is first set of comments. More to come eventually. Cartoon network freak (talk) 15:32, 14 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Cartoon network freak: First of all, thank you for your time and for the small corrections. I hope I corrected all your concerns.--Lirim

With all my issues solved, I can now proudly support this for promotion. Cartoon network freak (talk) 20:40, 15 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Cartoon network freak: Thank you very much. Lirim | Talk 20:41, 15 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by TompaDompa[edit]

Resolved comments from TompaDompa (talk) 19:09, 8 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  1. The image should have WP:ALT text for WP:ACCESSIBILITY reasons.
  2. More images would be welcome.
  3. There is very little prose providing context.
  4. and at number five Switzerland – missing "in".
  5. Four singles were promoted to aid the record – should this not be "Four singles were released to promote the record"?
  6. of which all should be "all of which".
  7. As of August 2018, "Melodien" holds the record [...] – I feel like it's much more relevant to note "In [month, year], "Melodien" set the record [...]"
  8. "GER", "AUT", and "SWI" should be explained using the {{abbr}} template, or simply expanded to "Germany", "Austria", and "Switzerland", respectively.
  9. feat. should be feat., i.e. {{abbr|feat.|featuring}}.

Right now, I don't think this passes WP:FLCR 3(b). Specifically, I think this could reasonably be included as part of the main Capital Bra article; it would not make that article prohibitively long, nor does it go into too much depth for that article. Indeed, one might argue that the music produced by a musician is the key point of interest for that musician's article. What is currently lacking is high-quality content that adds to the reader's understanding of this topic (i.e. not Capital Bra, but his discography), see point 3 above. Trends in the contents of the albums would fit this bill. TompaDompa (talk) 14:09, 18 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@TompaDompa:
  1. Done.
  2. Discographys actually never have more than one image.
  3. The context is given in the lead. It seems short, but it's very detailed and gives enough information for the reader.
  4. Done.
  5. Done.
  6. Done.
  7. Done.
  8. "GER", "AUT", and "SWI" are used in every discography as abbreviations for Germany, Austria and Switzerland. I could add it once to the studio albums, but I think everybody understands these abbreviations already? The first word in the lead is "German" -> GER. Austria and Switzerland are mentioned multiple times in the lead. It's clear for what these abbreviations are.
  9. I could change it to "featuring" without any templates. Doesn't make a big difference.
  10. I personally think, that the article passes 3(b). The discography is there to show the chartperformance and the certifications an artist got. The content of the albums and singles should appear in the main article (i.e. Kanye West#Musical style). The discography is large enough to be split apart from the main article. It gives a better structure to the subject, if it's sorted correctly. The life and career into one article, albums/single in anothe r and if possible even the music videos, but there aren't that many currently. The artist has a big output, four studio albums in two years, nine singles in 2017 and five in 2018. The discography will grow, fast.

Thank you for your comments.--Lirim | Talk 20:38, 18 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I stand by my assessment. Neither the length nor the depth of this discography make it inappropriate for merging into the main Capital Bra article (in no small part due to the latter being so short). This is not necessarily to say that it should be merged, only that it right now could. This may change as the discography grows, but that's not a reason to promote it now. TompaDompa (talk) 10:56, 27 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@TompaDompa: Could you then please clarify with "oppose" that you don't want this article to be promoted?--Lirim | Talk 08:18, 17 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Very well, Oppose subject to change if this or the parent article is expanded. TompaDompa (talk) 17:19, 17 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@TompaDompa: I can't follow the logic here considering your support of Daniil Trifonov discography below. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:05, 29 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
See my reply at Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Daniil Trifonov discography/archive1. In short, I would like the text (i.e. the WP:LEAD) to go into more detail about the discography, as I suggested above. TompaDompa (talk) 10:36, 30 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
So one more para in the lead would convert the oppose into support? Seems easy enough to do Lirim.Z. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:03, 2 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@The Rambling Man: I really don't know what to add anymore. For me personally the lead gives all the important information.--Lirim | Talk 18:44, 2 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Well perhaps TompaDompa could advise specifically the information that's missing from the lead which has resulted in their "oppose" here. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:46, 2 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I'll refer to my previous comment on this: What is currently lacking is high-quality content that adds to the reader's understanding of this topic [...]. Trends in the contents of the albums would fit this bill. If there have been any controversies surrounding the albums (not entirely uncommon with rappers), that would also fit the bill. Something could probably be written about collaborations with other artists. Depending on what is known about the announced but as yet unreleased album, that could also perhaps be added. TompaDompa (talk) 19:33, 2 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
TompaDompa Well, I added the split from his former record label a week prior to his album release, the signing to a new one, fourth ep and something about the new album.--Lirim | Talk 20:15, 2 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
A week prior, he split from his record label Team Kuku for a unknown reason. – I'd rephrase the last part. Otherwise it looks good. TompaDompa (talk) 16:01, 8 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@TompaDompa: I've found somewhat of the reason for his split.--Lirim | Talk 18:42, 8 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Support TompaDompa (talk) 19:09, 8 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@TompaDompa: Thank you very much.--Lirim | Talk 19:11, 8 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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