Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/J. Walter Kennedy Citizenship Award

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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by User:The Rambling Man 10:40, 2 August 2008 [1].

J. Walter Kennedy Citizenship Award[edit]

I am nominating this article because I believe it should be promoted to a featured list.—Chris! ct 20:20, 22 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

  • ""outstanding service and dedication to the community."" → ""outstanding service and dedication to the community"." per WP:PUNC
  • "It was the oldest citizenship and community service award in the NBA " – it was, or it still is?
  • "(then president[a])" → "(then president)[a]"
  • "who represents writers for newspapers, magazines and internet services who cover" – "who [...] who"? change a word?

Gary King (talk) 20:23, 22 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed all.—Chris! ct 21:13, 22 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment "Members of the organization..." which one? PBWA or NBA? --Dem393 (talk) 22:04, 22 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed.—Chris! ct 23:50, 22 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comments
    • Odd formatting issues in IE7 with a reasonable width screen, lots of whitespace under the Winners heading and the key. Presumably down to the template on the right-hand-side.
    • "and then a vote is taken by approximately 150 members" which members? Sounds like an odd way of running a vote.
    • "joint J. Walter Kennedy Citizenship Award winners" just "joint-winners" would suffice.
  • The Rambling Man (talk) 08:01, 23 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Done the last two point. I try to fix the formatting, and I don't know if it works. Let me know if it didn't.—Chris! ct 19:01, 23 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comments
    • If this is going to be a featured list, I would expect it to include more information than is available in the raw list obtained from the nba.com website. Why were the various recipients selected for the award? Why was it named for J. Walter Kennedy?
    • The article says that O'Toole was the first sport trainer to win. Was he also the only sport trainer to win? Is he the only non-player ever to receive this award?
    • The placement of the legend to the right of the table looks fine on a wide screen display in Firefox, but I think it could become problematic on a narrower display. Have you considered moving it below the table? (It also possibly could go above the table, but I suggest below because I think the items in the legend are essentially footnotes. ADDED: I see that you had it above the table earlier, but The Rambling Man was concerned about whitespace in IE...) --Orlady (talk) 17:54, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I will try to add more info, but reliable source is hard to find. As to the last point, I don't know if placing the legend below the table is a good idea since all the award pages have the legend on top and they should be consistent. Let's wait and see what The Rambling Man is going to say first before making any change.—Chris! ct 18:48, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the info additions you have made so far. They add information value to the article (and I bet you will be finding and adding more informative details before long). I'm particularly pleased to see that my question about non-players getting the award is now resolved. --Orlady (talk) 19:44, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Current layout is fine in Safari. I don't have IE at home so I can't tell you until tomorrow morning (it's nearly 8pm where I am) if it's resolved there as well. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:52, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • It's unusual to have the legend to the right of the table, between the table and the infobox/images. With a wide display, there's a huge gap between the table on the left and the infobox/images on the right, so it's OK to use the space for the legend. However, with a smaller monitor and/or a larger font size, the table contents look squeezed, but the legend creates a wide gap between the table and the images. --Orlady (talk) 19:36, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe it is good to just keep the legend on top. I don't think the white space The Rambling Man mentioned is really a problem. With that said, I am open to make any change to improve the layout of the page.—Chris! ct 20:07, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Well, it was a problem in IE7 (but I have no sympathy for IE7 users)... it may still be. I'll let you know tomorrow morning. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:09, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I just peeked at the article in IE7 (eek!). With some display settings, the current version has a large area of white space between the bottom of the article text and the top of the table -- this extra space is due to the NBA Awards template (which I was mistakenly calling an infobox in my comments above). I actually thought it looked better in IE7 when the legend was above the table instead of to the right of the table, but YMMV. --Orlady (talk) 20:27, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support All of my concerns have been resolved satisfactorily (albeit not ideally, but not all ideals are achievable). I see no reason not to support it. --Orlady (talk) 22:19, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Why is there {{col-start}}{{col-break|width=70%}} in front of the table? I wanted to remove it, but I want to know why it was there in the first place.--Crzycheetah 22:41, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know why it is there either. So, I remove it.—Chris! ct 23:43, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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