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Kevin Shields discography[edit]

Kevin Shields discography (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

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Nominator(s): Idiotchalk (t@lk) 07:00, 3 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because it seems to meet FLCR and is similar to other FL discographies of individual musicians. Idiotchalk (t@lk) 07:00, 3 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment. You should choose either mdash or spaced ndash and use it consistently throughout the article. Ruslik_Zero 18:10, 9 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
All dashes used in prose are unspaced mdashes. When you say consistently do you mean use them in references aswell? Idiotchalk (t@lk) 20:21, 9 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. Ruslik_Zero 19:39, 22 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Idiotchalk (t@lk) 20:04, 22 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Mdash should be unspaced. Ruslik_Zero 14:06, 23 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Right you are. Fixed. Idiotchalk (t@lk) 14:23, 23 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Crisco 1492 (talk)
Comments from Crisco 1492
Thanks for the CE. I edited the article per your comments and linked The Complex, which now has its own article. Idiotchalk (t@lk) 18:44, 12 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support on prose - Looks good. As a side note, I've nominated The Complex for DYK here. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:28, 12 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

;Comments Support

  • Album release dates: where are they sourced and which territory are they relevant to?
The earliest release dates are used and are mostly relevant to Ireland/United Kingdom. There's no source documenting all three MBV release dates together, however About.com, Stereogum and Allmusic are just some of several sources in print media/around the web confirming the dates. The Coral Sea date is sourced from Amazon. Idiotchalk (t@lk) 21:26, 14 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
OK. Those sources should be used to verify the release dates (See MGMT discography as an example). – Underneath-it-All (talk) 00:11, 15 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Idiotchalk (t@lk) 00:27, 15 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Add a reference to the singles section.
  • Provide a direct link to the "credits" section for the Allmusic references
Done. Idiotchalk (t@lk) 21:26, 14 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

– Underneath-it-All (talk) 20:50, 14 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 18:48, 21 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • "has released 3..." -> three (per MOS:NUM).
Done. Idiotchalk (t@lk) 19:26, 15 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • "with 22 different artists" how did you arrive at that number? I'd suggest you don't be so precise just in case....
It's the total number of artists listed under Collaborations plus his album with Patti Smith (which I just realised is actually 19 and corrected). Idiotchalk (t@lk) 19:26, 15 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • "failed to receive much attention" reads a little weak to me, precisely how weak was it?
Little to no attention. Several other sources use a similar comparison. Idiotchalk (t@lk) 19:26, 15 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • No need to wikilink London.
Done. Idiotchalk (t@lk) 19:26, 15 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • "and experienced a line-up change " you say this but you don't explain it or expand it, is it relevant?
It is relevant, as the line-up change became the most notable incarnation of the band. I added more prose for clarity. Idiotchalk (t@lk) 19:26, 15 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Should explain what a BAFTA and what an IFTA is in the lead before using the abbreviations.
Done. Idiotchalk (t@lk) 19:26, 15 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • "began completing its third studio album" horrible prose. They were simply writing the third album.
I don't exactly see what's wrong here; part of the album was recorded prior to the band's hiatus and when they reunited, they began completing it. Most of it was already written. Idiotchalk (t@lk) 19:26, 15 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • "received "universal acclaim" from " see WP:ATTRIBUTION, you should say that "according to Metacritic" or whatever, since that claim is quite incredible.
Done. Idiotchalk (t@lk) 19:26, 15 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Which territory are the release dates relevant to, Ireland or UK or both or what?
The albums were released on the same day in both Ireland and the United Kingdom, and are the earliest release dates. Idiotchalk (t@lk) 19:26, 15 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • What does N/A mean for Sales? Not available, Not applicable...?
No album sales figures have been published for either Isn't Anything or m b v, so "Not available." Idiotchalk (t@lk) 19:26, 15 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • " 2xCD," we normally use a "times" sign rather than an x.
Done. Idiotchalk (t@lk) 19:26, 15 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • In "Collaborations", the ref col is massive in the first two of the three tables....
Perhaps this is a browser issue? It looks identical to every other ref column for me and there seems to be no problems in the markup. Idiotchalk (t@lk) 19:26, 15 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Two books without ISBNs or similar identification, any reason?
Neither of the two sources without ISBNs are books, they are magazines/journals. Idiotchalk (t@lk) 19:26, 15 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The Rambling Man (talk) 18:15, 15 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment there's no need to duplicate the MBV discog at all here. Also listing only the MBV studio albums raises the question—why not list all the MBV EPs, singles and live albums as well? See how John Lennon discography doesn't have any Beatles stuff.—indopug (talk) 11:48, 31 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Other similiar FLs—musicians who are in bands and have released solo material—list the artist's band's albums (John Frusciante discography and Josh Homme discography, for example) so I don't see why listing MBV's albums would be a problem here. Plus, seeing as Loveless and m b v were practically Shields by himself, it seems practical to list them. Idiotchalk (t@lk) 01:45, 2 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment – About.com (ref 18) isn't considered a reliable source for much of anything, even a release date. Can we find another, better source for this fact? Giants2008 (Talk) 14:18, 5 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Sure thing. Replaced reference with a Sony Music Ireland press release. Idiotchalk (t@lk) 16:02, 5 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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