Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (season 1)/archive1
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Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (season 1) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
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- Nominator(s): MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 21:38, 16 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Where the chaos of Last Week Tonight began- of course, with a bang! Five episodes in, they transformed the Net Neutrality debate, settling Oliver's place in the late night show industry nicely.
I should clarify the reasoning for differing from most TV season articles. Talk shows are bad at naming their episodes- on Amazon, the episodes are just numbered. For this reason, the "Episode Title" is instead replaced with a "Main Segment" slot. As for the content of the episode summaries, using paragraphs seemed redundant, so I stuck with the descriptors that were there before. A note on sourcing: in the amazing HBO Max to "Max" transition, HBO removed seasons 1-7 of LWT from their site, so there's no actual way to watch old episodes in their entirety (unless you purchase the entire season on Amazon or elsewhere). Thankfully, Amazon retained the episode descriptions, so most summaries use info from Amazon or other news sites related to episodes. MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 21:38, 16 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Pseud 14
[edit]- Oliver time as host received positive reviews -- Oliver's time (possessive)
- On the review aggregator Rotten Tomatoes -- on the review aggregator site Rotten Tomatoes
- "rushed and jam-packed with information." -- since you are not quoting the full sentence, period should be placed outside the quote
- Worth linking YouTube both in the lead and in the body
- an effect dubbed the "John Oliver effect" -- use of effect in close proximity to each other, perhaps dropping the first mention of effect should still work I believe.
- That's all from me. Great job on John Oliver's series of work in the FL/FA space. Pseud 14 (talk) 12:13, 17 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- @Pseud 14, I've implemented all your comments, thank you for your review! MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 12:15, 17 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Support. If you have spare time and interest, I'd also appreciate some feedback on my current FLC. Totally understand if you are busy though. Pseud 14 (talk) 12:23, 17 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Pamzeis
[edit]I've made a few copy edits here and there, which I hope you don't mind. Let's not screw this up.
- "similar to that of Real Time with Bill Maher" — is this lead worthy? The rest of the article only gives it a passing mention
- It's the only tidbit about ratings I could find that may be interesting for the lead, but you're right- cut. MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 20:20, 22 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- "implemented using comedic bits to split up" — "bits" sounds a bit (hehe, pun unintended) informal. Is there another word that can be used?
- Replaced with "act". MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 20:20, 22 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- The "Critical reception" section is mostly a series of "X writing in Y felt Z"; I feel like this section could benefit from a bit of copy editing with help from WP:RECEPTION (which you've probably heard cited a million times)
- I've made some changes and now it just has two "__ writing in __" statements- I had a hard time consolidating general opinion because there's very few articles reviewing the season as a whole (and only a few more for the first episode) so I was relatively limited here. Let me know if you think more should be cut. MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 20:20, 22 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- "just over that of Real Time with Bill Maher" — what is Real Time? Is it a related show? The article doesn't give much context
- Real Time is HBO's other major late night show- clarified in prose. MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 20:20, 22 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Not a source review, but WP:IBTIMES is cited. If I had a nickel for every time I pointed out an IBTimes cite in a John Oliver article to you, I would have two nickels. That's not a lot, but it's funny that it happened twice.
- Replaced. Heinz Doofenshmirtz is one of my favorite TV characters, my respect for you has doubled after that reference MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 20:20, 22 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- I did not know the origin of that reference Pamzeis (talk) 00:41, 23 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Replaced. Heinz Doofenshmirtz is one of my favorite TV characters, my respect for you has doubled after that reference MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 20:20, 22 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Fun article :) Ping me in any replies! Pamzeis (talk) 14:27, 22 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- @Pamzeis: Many thanks for the review, all addressed! MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 20:20, 22 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Nice work. Supporting :) Pamzeis (talk) 00:41, 23 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Hey man im josh
Source review:
- Reliable enough for the information being cited
- Consistent date formatting
- Consistent publisher formatting
- Appropriate wikilinks where applicable
- Ref. 41 is a dead link for me and it does not have an archived version of the page available. Could you replace this reference or add an archive link (in case it's my network)?
- Ref. 44 is listed as an expiring news link by the link checker and does not have an archived version of the page available
- Link checker found no other issues aside from those I mentioned above
Additionally, the image needs alt text. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:00, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- @Hey man im josh, think I've gotten everything, thank you very much! Also, what's this link checker you mention? Seems like a useful tool for my own reviews. MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 21:19, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- @MyCatIsAChonk: The references are good now. Still would like alt text for the image in addition to the caption (even if they're close). Hey man im josh (talk) 21:26, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Hey man im josh, Whoops, forgot about that- done! MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 21:33, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Support: Sorry about the delay in coming back to this @MyCatIsAChonk, I didn't really edit over the weekend. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:46, 5 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Nothing to worry about, thanks a ton! MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 13:25, 5 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Support: Sorry about the delay in coming back to this @MyCatIsAChonk, I didn't really edit over the weekend. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:46, 5 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Hey man im josh, Whoops, forgot about that- done! MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 21:33, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- @MyCatIsAChonk: The references are good now. Still would like alt text for the image in addition to the caption (even if they're close). Hey man im josh (talk) 21:26, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
TheUzbek
[edit]Overall a great list, just a couple of grammar fixes.
- "Photo of Oliver wearing a suit and glasses while holding another pair in his hand. Large text above him reads" ----> "Photo of Oliver wearing a suit and glasses while holding another pair. The large text above him reads"
- "The season contained 24 episodes, each featuring a main segment on that week's news story and a number of other smaller segments." -----> "The season contained 24 episodes, each featuring a main segment on that week's news story and several other smaller segments."
- "Additionally, the main segments were posted to the show's YouTube channel after airing." ----> "The main segments were also posted to the show's YouTube channel after airing. "
- "], was credited with influencing the Federal Communications Commission's decision to strongly regulate net neutrality, beginning an phenomenon dubbed the "John Oliver effect"." -----> "], was credited with influencing the Federal Communications Commission's decision to strongly regulate net neutrality, beginning a phenomenon dubbed the "John Oliver effect"."
- "On the review aggregator site Rotten Tomatoes, the season has an approval rating of 94% with an average score of 8.5 out of 10 based on 31 reviews." -----> "On the review aggregator site Rotten Tomatoes, the season has an approval rating of 94%, with an average score of 8.5 out of 10 based on 31 reviews."
- "In comparison, The Daily Show averaged 1.5 million viewers at the same time and The Colbert Report averaged 1.2 million viewers at 11:30 pm." ----> "In comparison, The Daily Show averaged 1.5 million viewers simultaneously, and The Colbert Report averaged 1.2 million viewers at 11:30 pm."
- "In the two days after airing, the Society of Women Engineers received $25,000 in donations, which amounted to about 15% of the society's average annual donations." ----> "Two days after airing, the Society of Women Engineers received $25,000 in donations, which amounted to about 15% of the society's average annual donations."
- Otherwise, great work! --TheUzbek (talk) 07:34, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- @TheUzbek, thank you so much, can't believe I didn't catch those small mistakes! Should all be fixed now MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 10:33, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- @TheUzbek, why did you remove your support in this edit- is something still incorrect? MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 19:06, 16 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Support – Have no issues with this list EnthusiastWorld37 (talk) 18:54, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Many thanks for the review! MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 21:21, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Source review passed, promoting. --PresN 15:18, 18 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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