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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by Giants2008 19:19, 11 August 2012 [1].

List of Malmö FF chairmen[edit]

List of Malmö FF chairmen (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

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Nominator(s): Reckless182 (talk) 09:52, 27 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because I believe that it meets the criteria. This is the sixth FLC so far on the theme of Malmö FF and hopefully not the last. Reckless182 (talk) 09:52, 27 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Mattythewhite (talk) 22:48, 1 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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  • I don't think the text in parentheses in the image caption needs to be italicised.
  • I think the second paragraph could offer a more complete summary of the club's chairmen; there have been nine chairmen, but we're only told about three.
    • I'll work on it. --Reckless182 (talk) 19:20, 1 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    • Actually I'm not so sure that we need to introduce all of them in the lead? The lead already introduces the current chairman and the most notable chairman in the list. Most of the chairmen lack titles and not much is known about them so I'm not sure if the reader would gain a lot from being introduced to them in the lead. --Reckless182 (talk) 19:45, 1 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
      • I wasn't advocating detailing each chairman, was thinking along the lines of just another sentence or two at most. But on second thoughts, I'd say the third paragraph is sufficient in providing a summary of the club's chairmen. Mattythewhite (talk) 22:48, 1 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • "there are been" -> "there have been".
  • "Werner Mårtensson, Fritz Landgren, Bror Hansson, Oscar Persson and Hjalmar Nilsso" - are they in any particular order? If not I'd recommend them being ordered alphabetically.
  • The remaining sentences in the same paragraph are uncited.
    • Is there a need though? All of the information in the sentence can be found in the table below where it is referenced.--Reckless182 (talk) 19:20, 1 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • "From 1916 to 1934, Fritz Landgren" - we've already been introduced to Mr. Landgren so I'd remove Fritz.
  • The "After 1934 and the Eric Persson years (1934–1974)" section seems a little short compared to the other sections, especially considering it covers a 30 year period. Could it be beefed up a little?
  • Describing the club's 1978–79 European Cup performance as its "largest achievement" during the stated period seems a little subjective and could be debated.
  • "21st century's first decade" seems a little wordy; wouldn't 2000s suffice?
  • "Madsen retired from chairmanship" -> "Madsen retired from the chairmanship".
  • Håkan Jeppsson needs wikilinking.
  • "The exact dates for Werner Mårtensson's arrival" - don't you mean departure, seeing as the exact date for his arrival is given in the table?
  • "C. E. Eriksson's arrival in February 1934" - not sure we need the date, considering it's not given for the chairmen mentioned previously.
  • "The exact dates for arrival and departure is" - plural, so should be "The exact dates for arrival and departure are".
  • With the other honours, should being runner-up count as "honours the club won"? Being Allsvenkan runner-up isn't deemed noteworthy, so why is being runner-up in other competitions deemed to be?
    • I've gone for the same set of honours as in List of Malmö FF managers. Removing the runner's would remove the European and Intercontinental cup's, and just removing Svenska Cupen runner's up's and keeping the international runners-up spots wouldn't be right. Adding all the runners-up spots for Allsvenskan would add 14 more years to the table and possibly giving it quite an awkward format. --Reckless182 (talk) 19:20, 1 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Do the other honours need to be in small font size? I've done a preview with them in normal font size and it looks perfectly fine to me, not to mention that it'll make things easier for readers who are hard of sight.
  • General references tend to be displayed above specific references.

Cheers, Mattythewhite (talk) 17:55, 1 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

  • One last query; it's mentioned that Johansson started his second period as chairman in January 1927, so shouldn't this be stated in the list too? Mattythewhite (talk) 22:48, 1 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    • Thanks for spotting that, that's an error on my part. His exact arrival is unknown so I've removed it. --Reckless182 (talk) 07:48, 2 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, I see no problems. It reads well and is generally clear, and is concise and through so far as it can be. The list is well illustrated with descriptive and sourced captions. Alt text is present and of a high standard. All in all this looks good to me, well done. —Cliftonian (talk) 14:15, 4 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comments –

  • After 1934 and the Eric Persson years: "Perssons joined the club as member in 1925". Add "a" before "member"?
  • "of" should be after the first word in "seven whom were foreign born."
  • Bengt Madsen: "stood ready for the club in April 2009, when the club...". Redundant use of "the club" here. See if you can mix it up a bit. Giants2008 (Talk) 20:32, 5 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from NapHit (talk) 23:32, 9 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • "adding up to a total of 19 league titles for the club." -> for a total of 19 league titles for the club
  • "Malmö FF went down..." -> Malmo lost
  • "hitting 12 goals..." -> scoring 12 goals
  • "an educated economist and CEO," would of thought most economists are educated, would remove it and perhaps say what he had been a CEO of?

NapHit (talk) 17:49, 9 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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